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Do you realize...that this is one boneheaded move....
Published:
4/23/2009 4:04 PM
Last Modified:
4/23/2009 4:04 PM
Sure, I'm the classical music guy, and my opinion on this subject amounts to little but still -- that the Oklahoma State House, after months of hoopla, failed to pass the resolution to name the Flaming Lips' song "Do You Realize" as the official state rock song has to be one of the more boneheaded things that has come out of the State Capitol Building in some time.
I realize that is saying a lot. We ARE talking about legislators in Oklahoma, after all.
Put it this way -- 21,000 people in the state voted on this contest. Regardless of what one thought about the worth of such an endeavor -- and I will say no more about THAT -- the result of this activity was that the people of Oklahoma spoke up and said this particular song, a melancholy little ditty about coming to terms with mortality, was what we as a state wanted to be anointed as the state's official rock song.
All it needed to become official was for the state legislature to, basically, say, "Okey-dokey."
And our esteemed representatives cannot even do THAT right.
This was the legislative equivalent of a "gimme" shot, and they bungle it.
I'm sure that some of our "esteemed" representatives probably have some ingrained objection to "trashy rock and roll" and the people who write and perform it getting any sort of official recognition in this state.
But if that were the case, then why allow this process to go on to its conclusion? Why not put a stop to it before some 21,000 people in this state invested a little something in the outcome?
One reason could be that some politicians find more joy in destroying things than in creating things. It does seem to explain a great deal of the activity that goes on in our hall of government.
I fully realize that the "Official Oklahoma Rock Song" is a frivolous issue, one without any pressing social import, or that will have any impact on the state's woeful economy, sub par schools, and scandalous disregard for the health and well-being of the citizens of this state.
But what happened today might explain why these problems exist. If our state legislature cannot get its act together to do something as simple – as mindless, even – as passing a resolution officially recognizing a pop song, it makes one despair of these people doing anything substantive about the serious problems that face Oklahoma.
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Charlie G.
(4 years ago)
"Put it this way -- 21,000 people in the state voted on this contest."
WRONG!
It wasn't people in this state. It was people all over the world. Some of them probably have never even heard of Oklahoma.
canester2002
(4 years ago)
Nice summary of this James... The only thing the legislators are doing at this point by failing to pass this silly resolution is setting Oklahoma up for more ridicule by pushing it into the national news.
People voted, it was no big deal to start with, let it go and it will be a footnote meaning nothing and quickly forgotten... But I guess that's not how Oklahoma rolls.
BobSmith007
(4 years ago)
One boneheaded move? You betcha. A boneheaded move by Michael Ivins who wore a Soviet Union flag T-shirt to the Capitol. I am willing to give Mr. Ivins the benefit of the doubt and assume he’s just the dumbest douche bag to ever walk the face the earth. But if you are any kind of leader in America, you don’t do a service to the people by brushing off these little passive re-writes of history. Mr. Watts and Mr. Ivins should pick up a book – or Wikipedia for God’s sake. The Soviet Union was a REAL place where real people died under repressive regimes. Not thousands or tens of thousands, but millions of people were killed and millions more brutalized. Easy, I guess, to ignore the screams of the despotic victims when you have the Flaming Lips blaring through your I-Pod.
Tulsa World Scene Writer James Watts
(4 years ago)
To BobSmith007
I believe that you missed the whole point of the blog post. My complaint had nothing to do with merits of a particular song, or with someone's haberdashery choices, but rather with our state legislature's inability to work together on even the most frivolous of bills -- or to think clearly enough to assess the worth of a given measure, such as the creation of an "official state rock song," which is the height (or perhaps, depth) of such frivolity.
I am fully aware of the history of the Soviet Union, and the fact that someone where a shirt with one of the symbols of that regime to a government assembly is certainly less than intelligent, but it does not, as you state, "rewrite history." To carry that logic to its extreme would be to say that, at best, the people who wear Eskimo Joe T-shirts patronize that Stillwater establishment, or at worse are habitual drunkards, because the establishment serves beer.
And, for the record, I do not own an iPod.
SS_Hippy
(4 years ago)
Maybe the legislators saw the Orange and thought it was a Univ of Texas tshirt, and thats why they got so upset.
ram14
(4 years ago)
A state representative offended by a t-shirt to the point of going against the results of a poll. How simple this was. The answers were given to him and he still failed. But then that is how our state has always been represented...Get elected, have the people you represent tell you what they want, ignore their voice, and do what you want, regardless! 'My constituents were smart enough to elect me, but are too stupid to know what they need!'....Thanks Governor Henry for doing the obvious, no matter how trivial. Congrats to the Flaming Lips....
BobSmith007
(4 years ago)
James, I respectfully disagree. To follow your Eskimo Joe’s analogy, I am not saying Mr. Ivins is a Communist or part of a barbaric regime...or in any way associated with the Soviet Union. I have stated that I assume he is ignorant. I suppose, however, that he could be stupid. I don’t think people would wear Eskimo Joe’s shirts if the restaurant used to deliberately serve poison food to kids…or maybe they would if they forgot about the poison food and thought the shirt was cute. It wouldn’t mean they advocated poising kids, but it wouldn’t make the shirt O.K.
It does, indeed, rewrite history…albeit in a soft way…when a man shows up is a Soviet Union T-shirt and it is laughed off as Mike being Mike. “Oh, he’s just one of those rock-n-roll guys.” That hammer and sickle is a REAL symbol of the REAL torture my grandmother survived and my grandfather did not. (And at this point I’m trying real hard not to play the swastika card.) When that aspect is diluted because of the cool shirt the star is wearing, it does slowly erode the real history.
I suppose I could agree with your professed point that the Legislature should be able to agree on this trivial matter. But I would argue that they should have all agreed to reject the song...if only to send an important historical message. Maybe they shouldn’t be in the business of sending a message, but I think our leaders should do that when given the opportunity. And maybe leaders should be frugal in picking their battles, but this is one that is close to my heart. I see too many young people (and 50-ish rock-band guys, I guess) who have no sense of the World’s real horrors.
With that said, I don’t have a problem with Gov. Henry going ahead and making the Flaming Lips choice official. Good for them, good for us. The point has been made even though people like you—intentionally or unintentionally—denigrate it.
…and don’t buy and I-pod. You’re more appreciative of the art without it.
jhill
(4 years ago)
It's not as if our legislators had anything IMPORTANT to do with their time.
philvs
(4 years ago)
Help me clear this up. Our legislature was fighting over a resolution declaring a Flaming Lips song the Official State Rock Song? The move was hot down and the governor intervened to ensure that this legislative travesty did not stand? What planet am I on?
The legislature should be ashamed for spending our taxpayer dollars on such trivialities. The governor should be ashamed for having any part in this idiocy.
You want the truth? I don't think you can handle the truth! The governor has now enshrined the Flaming Lips in our less than lustrous legislative history. The Flaming Lips are a second rate band with a leader that uses expletives as punctuation and who often invites young women on stage with him to dance, completely naked, while he performs one of their songs.
What a class act!
Arbythree
(4 years ago)
Stick to art Mr. Watts. Those votes did not represent anyone other than those who had computer skills to vote. The vote, was not a good cross-section Of Oklahomans, it was the desire of younger minds, but that is NOT really the point.
Explain how that song was about Oklahoma at all? Sure the band has roots, but how does that song represent this State?
hannahsnana
(4 years ago)
I understand that who was given this 'honor' is not the point of this blog; however, anyone with a brain could figure out that the votes were fixed by a concerted effort by Flaming Lips fans, not all of which are Oklahomans. I absolutely agree that the reasons given are lame and embarrasing to the State of Oklahoma, but in my opinion, the song should have been 'Home Sweet Oklahoma'. Leon Russell is 66 years old, and should most definitely be recognized during his lifetime, not after he is gone. The Flaming Lips song nominated had nothing to do with Oklahoma.
Tulsa World Scene Writer James Watts
(4 years ago)
Arbythree,
I believe you should read the original post again. It is not about the song, or about the need for it or any other song to be given any kind of recognition. When it comes to the "official state rock song," I don't care. Focusing all attention on the lyrics of the song, or the clothes that people wear means missing the point -- that this entire situation is an example of our state government at work. That is where the outrage should be directed.
Thanks for your comments.
Arbythree
(4 years ago)
BUT, Mr. Watts, our State Government is still giving us "art", which is what you write about, and you tell us where and when to go see it. Once you told us to go see an exhibit at Gilcrease, owned by Bank of America.
I know where my outrage should be directed. Ms. Chancellor got a cover story due to this bull with the lips. Why there was no such outrage and a cover story for you, over the fact that Bank of America took our money and still owns priceless Russells and Remingtons and is being exhibiting in Tulsa is beyond me.
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James D. Watts Jr. has lived in Oklahoma for most his life, even though he still has people saying to him, "Don't sound like you're from around these parts." A University of Oklahoma Phi Beta Kappa graduate, Watts has received the Governor Arts Award, Harwelden Award and the National Conference of Christians and Jews Beth Macklin Award for his writing. Before coming to the Tulsa World, Watts worked for the Tulsa Tribune.
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