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Anybody Seen A Sooner?
Published:
2/23/2012 3:33 PM
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2/23/2012 3:33 PM
According to most of the mock NFL drafts, no OU player will be taken in the first round, or anywhere near the first round, according to some.
What's up with that?
How can you be an elite team without elite players?
Where did all those mega-star recruits go?
There's more to an elite team than a quarterback getting drafted every few years.
Where are the multiple stuffings of which great teams are made?
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boomerbrah
(12 months ago)
you can't have 3 of the top 4 players taken in the draft every year pick
OU was a fairly young team this year
Glenn616
(12 months ago)
Answer: OU has few players that are actually leaving OU this season. OU has a lot of young players this season that are coming back.
Glenn616
(12 months ago)
Picker, on an unrelated subject, any thoughts on last night's Bedlam Basketball game?
John Nash
(12 months ago)
Someone crack a window in here...it's getting stale.
colhi64
(12 months ago)
Nothing wrong with getting the quarterback drafted every few years, considering they play two or three years, means that all of them are getting drafted, which means we have quality quarterbacks. Sam got drafted, now its Landry's turn next year, then mabye Belldozer a couple after that....
As noted OU was young last year, will be young again this coming year... I don't think that haveing a lot of players getting drafted means the team was or will be good anyway, look at OU's basketball team with the nuts theys had last year, three drafted? They couldn't beat their grandmas last year. Football is no different, need a head to go with that physical talent. That was OU's major problem last season. Lots of talent, too much space tween the ears.
soonerk
(12 months ago)
Picker, just because its a "Mock Draft Board" does not make it a reality. Report something like this after the draft....not before.
norsemustang
(12 months ago)
OU will be young again this year? Darn! That makes four years in a row, does it not?
The Picker
(12 months ago)
A seemingly simple question: OU has a top five or top ten high school recruiting class every year.
Yet it has a pretty lousy pro draft record.
Could the cause be coaching?
John Nash
(12 months ago)
According to ESPN, OU has only had 3 recruiting classes in the top 10 in the last 7 years, and only 1 in the top 5.
The "pretty lousy pro draft record" includes 3 of the first 4 picks, and 4 total in the first round of the 2010 draft. It also includes 50 kids drafted since 2000, not including FA signings, which ranks 10th nationally. OU also has produced 12 1st round draft picks since 2000, which ties for 6th nationally.
So to answer your question...It might have a little more to do with a homer not knowing what he's writing about than coaching.
wgspost
(12 months ago)
Norsemustang makes a good point. You can't be "young" every year; Sooner fans are beginning to sound the way the OSU Aggie fans used to sound with their "wait 'till next year" mantra. The last time Oklahoma State beat the Sooners by anything like the 34-point buggy-whipping they dished out last November was on November 24, 1945 when they won 47-0. That game resulted in the Sooner coach, Dewey "Snorter" Luster getting a pink slip and it began the Jim Tatum - Bud Wilkinson era. In short, Oklahoma doesn't lose to Oklahoma State like that without serious consequences. Where are those consequences today? The sports press is silent and the relatively literate segment of the OU fan base remains relatively unheard; only the money guys...the behind-the-scenes donors, are forcing some changes. Martinez is gone (never should have been hired), Venables is finally gone, and Stoops brought his little brother home for moral support. And what of those "blue chippers" that are hitting I-35 south? Those within the program proclaim that "Bobby is just cleaning house of the guys who didn't want to be there; he's ridding the program of those with "Character issues", while others might ask why these character issues weren't weeded out before matriculation. Stoops' inability to win with quality recruiting classes is beginning to mirror that of Mack Brown, who also hauls in the great athletes year after year without recompense on the scoreboard. Bob Stoops once commented "If I can't win a national championship with guys like Peterson and Bradford on the roster I must not be a very good coach." Hmmm...maybe he had a point.
The Picker
(12 months ago)
According to ESPN?
The opposite of ESPN is the way most smart people work.
Those lost in the past are frequently afraid of the present.
Where are the draft picks last year? This year?
Being coached up at much, much smaller schools with much, much worse high school recruiting classes.
John Nash
(12 months ago)
Sorry Pick, there are only a few sources to rank recruiting classes, ESPN is one of those. Next time do your own homework and pick whichever rating system you'd like. You'll find, whichever rating service you use, there is nothing factual in your statements.
Nice job deflecting though....keep up the good work and you might end up at ESPN someday!
The Picker
(12 months ago)
Come on up to the present and we'll all be fine and dandy. The question remains: how can the high school recruits be so much better than the pro prospects? Coaching?
The Picker
(12 months ago)
Where are the pro all stars from OU?
John Nash
(12 months ago)
Seriously? Now you're attempting to blame college coaches for shortcomings of players one they reach the NFL? I'm pretty sure the recruiting pitch for high school athletes has never promised a Pro Bowl game.
You should have quit while you were behind.
wgspost
(12 months ago)
It has always been thus. Our wishbone quarterbacks were either shunned or picked in mid-rounds and converted to defensive backs...our best running backs have been "Archie Manninged" to mediocre teams and wasted (or injured)...bottom line...our best coaches have always produced the best results from the fine talent at hand in order to perform on the platform at hand...generally speaking, college football; specifically speaking, the Big 8/12/?.
norsemustang
(12 months ago)
If 40 times, bench presses, and vertical leaps were all that mattered, then OU would almost never lose. However, what good are those things on a player who blocks the wrong guy, misses a tackle, drops the ball, or is lazy in practice or in a game? Physical talent is only one part of the overall equation. In my opinion, it is merely a bonus to be a great player. Intangible things like work ethic and toughness make great players great. Unfortunately, OU's coaches no longer seem to be interested in intangibles. The OSU game proved that.
wgspost
(12 months ago)
Norse hit the nail squarely on the head. The coaching in Norman is a trouble spot. Guys who once played for Proctor in the secondary have been apoplectic for years while watching the Sooners play. The players are perpetually out of position, the wrong players are on the field (how many times have we seen linebackers trying to cover wideouts?), and when the play ends, our defenders get up slowly and amble back to the LOS. No hustle. It'll be interesting to see whether Stoops lite will have any positive effect on the field. If what most certainly will happen happens--i.e. if our secondary continues to look like N. Tx St -- Stoops has any number of built in, tried-and-true excuses to fall back on (e.g. injuries...youth...lack of depth...). We'll see...
BOOMER! SOONER!
(12 months ago)
Adrian Peterson, Phil Loadholt, Malcom Kelly, Curtis Lofton, Dominique Franks, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, just to name a few.
Pardon my French, but are you high Picker? You're exemplifying the crazy expectations of the Oklahoma media. OU has more than its fair share of players in the league.
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