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Published: 6/12/2007 3:52 PM
Last Modified: 6/12/2007 3:52 PM

Here are the top sporting events, in general, throughout this state's history:

1. Major golf tournaments at Southern Hills in Tulsa.

2. OU football in Norman.

3. NBA basketball in OKC.

4. Oklahoma State basketball in Stillwater.

5. NCAA basketball tournaments, where ever; mostly in OKC.


It's not even close: The major golf tournaments at Southern Hills are world championships played over a national shrine. Nothing else in the state is on the same page with that kind of importance.


OU football in Norman used to be better with Nebraska on a regular basis, but it's still as good as regular season college ball gets, thanks to great home games like Miami, due soon.


NBA ball with a lousy team is better than no NBA ball. I'd personally rather see a hoop encounter in Stillwater











Reader Comments 32 Total

world picker (6 years ago)
We just got a phone message suggesting a temporary dome be constructed over Southern Hills in an attempt to limit heat casualities.



Pretty good idea.



Herb (6 years ago)
As a non-golfer it is admittedly difficult for me to gauge the importance on a national scale of the sport vis-a-vis Southern Hills or any other course. But with all due respect, the college football in Norman aspect - given the record of 47 straight victories which still stands - does, in my opinion, rival Southern Hills in import. Has the impact been diluted with tradition-diluting changes such as rivalries interrupted by scheduling quirks? Without a doubt. Wanna test my theory? Head out to Woodland Hills Mall on any given Saturday afternoon, pull up a section of bench, grab your pencil and paper and keep track of the number of OU caps and the number of Ping caps. I'll give you ten-to-one on that count. Also, the dome over Southern Hills, while not practical, certainly may cut down on the ratio of heat strokes to patrons and players come August. If you did have the dome, how would you ventilate it? Have all the groundskeepers and employees of the course stand at intervals around the perimeter and blow in unison?
Jeremy (6 years ago)
I can't argue with your list. I would like to add, while risking the opening of an old wound, that OU football being #2 is precisely why the local media gives the Sooners more attention than all others. Again, whether one agrees or disagrees with it, tis the facts.

While traveling to OKC today on business, I tuned into the Sports Animal on the way there and back. Here are my new perspectives:

1. Mike Steele (or is it Steeley?) and Curtis Fitzpatrick are ok, but the other two are bad. The morning show as a whole was not good today. They don't spend enough time on sports, and aren't funny enough to emulate Phil and Brent. I should have listened to KMOD. Incidentally, I think Mike and Curtis do a great job on Saturdays during the football season. I think the Animal's pre and post game shows for both OU and OSU are the best in the area.

2. Al Jerkins and Pat Jones make a good team. I have always respected Big Al...even though he's a Yankee fan. I think this must be due to his family being in the horse business in the northeast. Nothing more honest than good horsemen I say...

3. Only caught the first hour of Traber's show, but he started a discussion of what each local team's record would be this coming football season. Gave OU 11-1, OSU 7-5, and TU 8-4, until he remembered that Paul Smith was still a Hurricane, thus changing their mark to 9-3. My thoughts: OU certainly has the talent to go 11-1, but I'll say a 2 or 3 loss season is more likely. The OL is stellar, but the leaky pass D can't be helped by losing so many players in the front 7. I'd say OSU's mark is about right. They should be a tad improved, but Traber said their schedule is a beast. As for TU, I think that they will scare the you-know-what out of the Sooners in September. Paul Smith is very savvy, and the Sooners will look past them like they did a few seasons back. TU has played them tough recently...

Gene (6 years ago)
Mr. Picker, your raising of Southern Hills to the level of "National Shrine" is stretching it a bit. Another course in Tulsa, Tulsa Country Club, was celebrating its 30th anniversary when Southern Hills was just getting started and it remains a challenge to golfers at every level.

I hope the folks at Southern Hills see your exaltation and reward you with an Honorary membership.

world picker (6 years ago)
Herb: There's a big difference in being of world-wide importance and in playing a one-country sport versus, face it, softies.



Jeremy: Concerning radio, let me just say this. There's a reason local people are local.



On the morning Animal show, they give the impression of not liking their listeners very much. Heard 'em once, you've heard 'em forever.



I like coach Pat, too. Only one on the radio to give OU some nice little digs. Goes a little too Hog wild for our taste sometimes. The way Arkansas ignores this state, I'd be prone to return the favor.



King and Plank on the other sports network have rallied and now regularly push good guests.

Gene: You have heard of major golf tournaments?



The Open starts bright and early on the tube tomorrow morning, unlike the way the snobs at the Masters concent to show us glimpses here and there.



OU probably has a shot at 11-1 because of its beautiful home schedule.



There are about 8 games on TU's schedule that are 50-50.



Until OSU figures out how to tackle, I don't know how you can project that team much past 50-50.




TAB (6 years ago)
I thought the Picker would have some interesting comments regarding the new downtown aquarium -- looks like the car was ruined, but Tulsa sure caught some fish with that deal! Agree with the other poster's comments re: local sports radio. The OKC animal just isn't funny when football is out of season. Lump is a doofus and the female intern is hateful towards most things that make life worth living. I once listened to them discuss the greatest horror movies of all time, and Lump noted several times that he had not watched most of the list. Thanks, Lump, for your informed opinion on the movies.
world picker (6 years ago)
TAB: You're right, the car they apparently buried in what used to be a septic tank deserves mention.



Why didn't they park it at Fine Parking at the airport or somewhere like that?



That a community could get so excited says something for the community doesn't it.


world picker (6 years ago)
Gene: Somebody at Southern Hills just called and made me an honorary caddy.

Herb (6 years ago)
Point taken, Mr. P. But there's a relatively large contingent of non-smokers out there who believe that placing golf in the 'sports' category rather than the 'hobby' field is also stretching it a bit. I mean, c'mon, even though some pot-bellied endomorph can swat a ball a couple of acres with any degree of accuracy doesn't make up for the fact that he also rides a go cart between shots and has a would-be jockey toting his golf clubs about.
world picker (6 years ago)
Herb: Next you'll try to tell me poker isn't a sport.



The point here is that after all the huffing and puffing from OKC, THE major sporting event in this state remains each and every major golf tournament at Southern Hills.



world picker (6 years ago)
Herb: There are two kinds of sports, major and minor. If you can bet on it, it's a major sport. No bet, minor sport.

Gene (6 years ago)
Mr. Picker, congrats on being named an honorary caddie at Southern Hills. As a word of caution going into the heat of the summer, only work when the Heat Index is below 120 and abstain from all alcoholic beverages.

If those yokels at Southern Hills weren't so stuffy, they would have made you a real member and then you could invite all your blogger friends out to play.

And I have heard of tournament golf but don't get me started on that "Invitational" they have a Augusta each year.

Herb (6 years ago)
Picker...interesting view. However, you can bet on just about everything from gubernatorial elections to the number of days Paris will stay in jail at just about any wagering window in Clark County, Nevada, but it still doesn't make 'em minor sports. Actually, I'm just yanking your chain, P. So, are you a poker player? All those years I spent in T-Town playing with the same set of bozos every month or so and I could have been dipping into your life savings?
world picker (6 years ago)
Herb: Last time I played poker, a drunk woman caught a third deuce and beat me out of possible honeymoon money.



The question is: Would I rather have a junkie beat me with a fumble with a minute to go?



Tough call.



RR (6 years ago)
Here's the deal...Numbers 2-5 are debatable on several levels, but the picker is 100% correct on Southern Hills and the "world championships" that it has brought to this city. If you disagree with the picker on that fact (not opinion, but fact) then you are not only wrong, but you are naive and not worthy of being called a sports fan. Listen Herb, Oklahomans on the edge of their seats during an undeniably impressive 47 game winning streak is child's play compared to the entire world focusing their eyes on 61st and Lewis for four consecutive days in June or August. It's just an innane discussion and the idea that somebody could have the opinion that a localized college sports team's winning streak is bigger than major championships being decided by Jack Nicklaus, Arnold Palmer, and Tiger Woods, etc. is the reason why the other 49 states poke fun at many Oklahoma sports fans.
RR (6 years ago)
One more thing...saying that OU's winning streak rivals the events held at Southern Hills is like saying Pervis Ellison rivals Muhammed Ali in being the best athlete to come out of Louisville. Does that help in showing how little sense you are making Herb?
Jeremy (6 years ago)
Well, I think we must all agree that ON A WORLDWIDE, OR EVEN NATIONAL SCALE, the golf events at SHCC are definately #1. ON A LOCAL SCALE, the 47 in a row could be #1 to some people who don't care about golf. It's all about perception.

As for the US Open, I have no problem watching the pros have trouble with a course. I like it when the winner is -3 and the fifth place finisher is +1. I don't even mind the winner finishing above par. What I do mind is watching those guys play in conditions I can't relate too...or in conditions that could do harm to the players. I'm sorry, but hitting the ball out of 6 inch rough is just stupid. 300 yard par 3's are stupid.

Again, I love watching the pros scratch and claw their way to a 70...but this can be done without 6 inch rough and 300 yard par 3's. It isn't realistic. If the course is tight and the rough is somewhat thick and the greens are firm, then it will be plenty tough.

I will never forget watching the USGA having to water the green in a recent US Open in the middle of a round. The USGA wants their Open to be different, but let's not get carried away. If 4 or 5 of these guys hurt their wrists trying to hit it out of that rough (which could be baled for hay), then the USGA has gone too far.

world picker (6 years ago)
RR is all over the issue of most important sporting event in Oklahoma history.



The most newsworthy OU home football game was probably when Notre Dame ended the win streak. That one single game undoubtedly was worth mention in the Tibet Times. On the whole, golf majors are as good as sports gets.



What's with the elimination of all the oak trees, and other trees, at Oakmont? Maybe they should change the name of the place to Sandmont or Roughmont. Looks like a links course hold the ocean.


Jeremy (6 years ago)
They interviewed an Oakmont rep on the golf channel the other night. He said that they wanted to restore Oakmont back to its original links style...we're talking 50 years ago. Can you imagine playing Souther Hills CC this August if there were no trees?? The caddies would be carrying the umbrellas open for shade. Course, the added breeze would be nice...

Just finished looking at the football schedules for OU, OSU, and TU. I didn't realize that the OU-TU game was a Friday nighter. Incredible. I figured Stoopsie wouldn't have wanted to disrupt the players' routines. It will be kinda odd sitting in Skelly on a Friday night watching a football game that doesn't include Jenks HS or Booker T vs McClain. Noticed that Hurricane ticket office is selling minipaks with OU, UAB and Houston for around $110 (give or take). Can I get $5 for the UAB and/or Houston tix (smirk)???

Herb (6 years ago)
RR...jeez, how could I have been so wrong...? That is, me and a couple million other poor, stumblin' Okies? I thank Jesus that you have put down whatever manual tool you use to make a living in order to set us on the right path...the path to logic...the path to righteousness...the path to Southern Hills, evidently to watch a gaggle of double-knit clad ball-tappers "battle" the heat whilst trying to maneuver a dimpled spheroid into a hole from great distances. Sorry, RR, but I think that before those 'other 49 states' begin poking fun at OU they'd better beat the streak. But it was a nice, relatively lettered attempt at making your point. And to you, Picker, loved the fumbling junkie comment...we need more of your sense of humor on here.
world picker (6 years ago)
Herb--I think the discussion has to do with a single event. No single OU home football game, other than the ND loss, means, or has meant, close to as much as any major at Southern Hills. Just because golf pros are over-paid, arrogant sissies doesn't make their game less worldly. Anybody who does anything 1,000 times a day as a kid is going to get pretty good; golf probably moreso than anything. You and I, Herb, with a rich daddy, could have been Masters contenders. So on the single event angle, golf majors at Southern Hills win the contest, however many to one.


Herb (6 years ago)
P, yeah, I suppose if you look at it from a Gestalt point of view, you'd have a point to make. Internationally, SHCC may be more significant that Memorial Stadium. But I don't really think you can look at it like that in all fairness. Golf is a worldwide game, but so is soccer. How important was it when the Roughnecks took the NASL twenty-odd years ago in a sport that most of the world worships? Does the fact that Pele, Beckenbauer, and Cruyff (although, admittedly, past their prime) played in the league that Tulsa championed make Skelly Stadium a world-class venue? Of course not. Nor is Southern Hills on the same level as the Old Course at St. Andrews in Scotland. And my family was relatively well off. My father worked 18 hours a day in a basement in Little Rock counterfeiting nickels (on a good day he could make almost $10.00...). He took those earnings and parlayed them into a fairly lucrative telephone repair business which enabled me to play little league baseball and reach the all star game. And where am I today? Noodling for harp seals in (G)Nome.
RR (6 years ago)
Herb: Here is where you are missing the point...the other 49 states don't care about the streak...they just don't. Do you really think that people and Los Angeles were crushed when Southern Cal's recent 30+ game winning streak ended?? Sure, those that are deeply connected to USC were probably devastated, but the majority of the LA population either didn't know they lost or watched the game and forgot about it on their way to the Viper Room that night. Herb, I am an Oklahoman and proud of it, so please don't lump me in with the "couple million poor stumblin' Okies" that you made reference to. I have full confidence that there aren't a couple million people in this state who would offer such sophmorish commentary on this subject as you have. As a matter of fact, this state, and more specifically Tulsa, has a very cultured group of sports fans that know what a world event such as the U.S. Open or a PGA Championship means to this city and our state. The fact that you bring up old men playing in the NASL, which is akin to the seniors tour making a stop in Tulsa, shows just how weak your grasp on this subject really is. Do you understand that Tiger Woods is the most popular and recognizable athlete in the world? Contrary to your belief, Phil Mickelson is a more recognizable sports figure than Bob Stoops...do you really think that more sports fans in America, let alone the world, have more familiarity with Adrian Peterson than, lets say, Sergio Garcia? If you do then you need to travel outside of the state once in a while.
Ben (6 years ago)
Way to go, RR !!!!
Herb (6 years ago)
Gee, RR, if you're a 'proud Oklahoman' as you claim, then I didn't lump you into the 'stumblin' Okies' category - you did that all by yourself (see the last paragraph of your first blog entry...you did it by implication). And by stating that 'the majority of the LA population either didn't know they lost or watched the game and forgot about it on their way to the Viper Room that night', you simply made a point about the state of mind of the average LA "sports fan", which is, in effect, a sine qua non (look it up) to the discussion at hand. If you are indeed a true fan of not just Oklahoma football but of college football, you'd realize that the 47 game streak is one of the most hallowed in not only college football, but in any sport. And just because you live in Neuvo Tijuana (Tulsa), let me tell you my friend, you are no more cosmopolitan than a sports fan in, say, Anadarko. I, myself, grew up in T-Town and know whereof I speak. And as for golf? How pathetic it is to watch a grown man slavering over a bunch of "athletes" whose only claim to fame is the ability to stroll across a grassy field chasing a ball with a stick. Tiger Woods? Sure he's popular and sure he's recognizable; but so's Tony the Tiger. And as far as me "traveling outside the state once in awhile", forgetting for a moment that your idea of "traveling outside the state" is probably a day-trip to Fayetteville, I happen to live in G(N)ome, my friend. And if you think Tulsa is a big city, you should try visiting our fair city. Oh, and by the way, go back to sleep, Ben, or, better yet, try piecing together a couple of correctly spelled words on your own rather than sucking up to the quasi-literate on here.
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