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Comparing the Gundy and Rodriguez programs
Published: 5/24/2010 10:04 PM
Last Modified: 5/24/2010 11:28 PM

When reviewing Mike Gundy's first five seasons as the Oklahoma State coach, you can lean in either of two directions.

* You can dwell on his 2007 news-conference rant and his 0-10 record against Oklahoma and Texas. Defensively, OSU was terrible in the Holiday Bowl loss to Oregon. Offensively, OSU was terrible in the Cotton Bowl loss to Ole Miss. Each of the bowl setbacks killed Cowboy bids to reach the 10-win mark for the first time since 1988.

* Or you can dwell on Gundy's streak of four consecutive bowl appearances. Or that his program set school records last year for season-ticket sales and attendance. Or that for two seasons, OSU has been a fixture in the Top 25. Or that OSU's Big 12 win total has improved from 1-7 (2005) to 3-5 (2006) to 4-4 (2007) to 5-3 (2008) to 6-2 (2009).

Critics and supporters must agree, though, that Gundy has run an apparently clean program. During the Gundy era, the only NCAA situation centered on the Dez Bryant-Deion Sanders relationship. In that deal, Gundy was a victim – not a participant.

How does Gundy look when compared to Michigan's Rich Rodriguez?

Through two seasons at mighty Michigan, Rodriguez is 8-16 overall. He is 3-13 in the Big Ten and he is in NCAA hot water. The NCAA alleges that Rodriguez "failed to promote an atmosphere of compliance within the football program." Michigan staff members allegedly monitored offseason voluntary workouts. That's illegal. Michigan is alleged to have routinely worked its players far beyond the NCAA limit of 20 hours per week. Who blew the whistle? Wolverine players.

Also, a graduate assistant is accused of having provide "false and misleading information" to NCAA officials.

On Tuesday, Michigan's response to the allegations will be made public. In August, Rodriguez faces the NCAA infractions committee.

If you were buying stock in the immediate future of Mike Gundy or Rich Rodriguez, you'd go with Gundy and it would be an easy call.

And if this does happen to be Rodriguez' final season at Michigan, we might be reminded that college football is a small world. Former OSU coach Les Miles, a Michigan man through and through, could wind up at Ann Arbor.

Instead of laboring in Nick Saban's shadow at LSU, Miles -- who in 2001 hired Gundy as OSU's offensive coordinator -- could be the new coach and a hero at Michigan.

-- Bill Haisten

Written by
Bill Haisten
Sports Writer



Reader Comments 5 Total

FIRE GUNDY (3 years ago)
Comparing Gundy to Rich Rodriguez is irrelevant. He's still an idiot.
Huskerfan (3 years ago)
Les Miles a hero? What Bizzarro world are you living in, Haisten?
BigBallsInCowtown (3 years ago)
This article was a waste of Haisten's time.... Was he just bored and needed something to write about in order to get paid?? What's the relevance in comparing gundy to rich rod? This newspaper might as well be stationed in Norman...
SixGunSam (3 years ago)
I too fail to understand the rationale or reasoning behind a Gundy and Rodriquez comparison. The circumstances and criteria of their respective hires weren't anything alike.

Gundy was hired 5 season's ago and Rodriquez 2.

It's not meant as an indictment or criticism of Gundy but why Rodriquez and not Urban Meyer who was also hired to his current position 5 years ago as was Gundy? Why not a Chris Petersen, Mike Gundy comparison?

There are few if any coaches out there that don't look pretty good compared to Rodriquez right now. So why Gundy?

If the intent is an article to detail Rodriquez failures at Michigan, great, do that. If on the other hand, the intent is an article praising Gundy, that's also great, do that too but the direct comparison of the two makes no sense because nothing about their stories at their respective schools is in direct parallel.
DanDDiver (3 years ago)
It's pretty apparent the idiot Bill Haisten wants the first paragraph to lead his thoughts and sway his audience.

Then to compare Gundy to Rodriguez is just plain stupid and does nothing more than to allow Haisten to "dump" Gundy into the Rodriguez trash pile with association.

Screw you, Bill.
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