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Fall Guys
Published: 8/20/2007 4:43 PM
Last Modified: 8/20/2007 4:43 PM

Three important things, this week: One, the big picks contest starts next Monday, and if there's anything that defines our readers, it's the quest for something for nothing.
Contest games will be available for picking Monday around noon. Normally, we will contest ten college games, six pros. Opening week, all 16 contest games will involve the colleges. Picks will be made against the point spread. So take out the gum and read the rules and don't call up with a dopey question like some ninny.

Two, much the way hurricanes form off the north African coast, we'll let you share in the formation of three big picks, which sometimes intensify into Locks of the Decade, or occasionally dissolve into mist.

First vibe: TU is in trouble at Monroe, which is coached by former Oklahoma State quarterback Weatherbie. This trouble thought started out as a hunch and firmed up over the weekend into a notion. A new offense on the road on the tube versus a mid-minor: beware.
Second vibe, OU obliterates Miami, which has a robot at quarterback. This, the second week, after North Texas probably passes for 300-plus against the Sooners who, believe it or not, have seemed suspect on defense in scrimmages. As stated here previously, this year, defensive man Venables is being closely considered.

The third spawning pick is Oklahoma State versus Georgia.

Everybody says Georgia is something special. Bull. The quarterback runs the 40 in two minutes, ten seconds. But after being more or less benched for the OU contest, who knows what to expect from Reid, either.

Georgia should be favored around seven. There's only one reason why OSU couldn't win outright: bad defense.
Offhand, we lean toward OSU, but that could change before the kick and the official pick; too close to call at the moment.

And now let's begin to cure many of you of extreme homerism.

If one of your coaches or players says, "We didn't execute," that's another way of saying that the other team was better.

And just because somebody beats you (OU fans see Oregon last year), that doesn't mean the other team is terrific.



Reader Comments 21 Total

Ubermensch (6 years ago)
When did any sane person tell you that Oregon was terrific because they beat the Sooners? They weren't terrific, our secondary was certifiably unspectacular. In spite of the Jack Sisco-like quality of the officiating, it's an absolute fact that the Beavs shouldn't have been close enough to cheat in the late moments of the game. Ditto Boysee.
Jeremy (6 years ago)
Well Mr. P, I can see this is going to be another knock-down-drag-out of a contest this year. You and I think alike when it comes to picking college football games. As for the pros, I flip a coin.

I agree with your TU thoughts, but I haven't seen the line yet. No doubt that LA-Monroe will be sky high for a game on the national tube, and they return all 11 offensive starters!! (6 on D if you are wondering) True, they went 4-8 last season, but lost by only 2 at SEC's Kentucky and by only 5 at Troy. This team could actually win the Sun Belt this year. I'll wait for the line before I pick a side, but if TU is giving up very many points at all, I'm taking the home side.

I'll not comment extensively again on OU-Miami, as I wrote a novel about this game on a prior blog. In brief, I'll need to see if the new OU thrower can hit wide open receivers vs the mean green.

OSU-Georgia is an interesting game. The Cowboys will be able to score on anybody they play. The problem, as the picker noted, is that the opponent can also score at will. While the Georgia QB Stafford stunk it up last year, he was just a freshman. He'll have learned from those 8 starts (6-2 record), and he was the #2 ranked HS QB of his class. The Bulldogs have 7 returning offensive starters, and only 4 on defense. This has all the signs of a shootout. Plus, Georgia has a HUGE SEC battle at home the next week versus Spurrier's Gamecocks. I don't think the 'Dogs will overlook OSU since it is the season opener, but I think OSU's offense will keep this one close. I'll take the Cowboys and the points if the line is 8 or more.

Now Mr. P, I'll agree that the execution excuse is used too often, but you'd have to agree that teams of 18-21 yr olds don't always play their best game on a given Saturday. The best team doesn't always win, so a lack of execution could indeed be a reason for a loss. But again, it is used way too often. It would be refreshing to hear a coach actually say once in awhile that "they were the better team today".

Not always right (5 years ago)
Depsite his claims, the picker is not always right. For instance, take this blog. Each prediction is wrong. TU will thump ULAM. OU-Miami will remind a lot of people of OU-TCU. And OSU will be revealed as pretenders in only their first game.
Steven (5 years ago)
Agree that it gets old hearing the "not executing" excuse. I do see it happening from time to time though. Like the beginning of last season when Rufus and others were not wrapping up and finishing tackles. That is, in my estimation, a lack of execution. They were in position to make plays against inferior talent and failed to do so.


As scared of Miami (and Jeremy did do a good job of breaking it down if others wish to find the other blog) as I was, the fact that they could have a backup QB starting and that their starting LB should be out is a huge turn. Miami is fast and will fly around on defense. Like I stated before, OU's young QB will have to make a few plays.


I honestly look at Tulsa and OSU in the same kind of light. With the new offense and stellar Qb play at Tulsa, they should put up quality numbers and scores...but how is their defense going to hold up? At this point, it is widely unknown, like OSU. Personally, I think too much is made of OSU and their defensive woes. They will be good on offense, but I don’t think that they are so good that they will be averaging 40+ a game. To that end, I am not willing to label their defense as a glaring weakness with the new coordinator coming in. They may not be leading the big 12, but it is far cry to call them weak just yet.


Although the OU offense rolled up some scores (many were redzone plays on Saturday) on the defense, remember picker that the defense has showed up and played very well in the other 2 scrimmages. The defensive line's increased disruption of an experienced and talented offensive line is encouraging to say the least. The more I have seen the D-line and LB's play, the more encouraged I become. I thought those would be OU's two biggest question marks going into the season (even over QB). Either Nichol or Bradford can make the throws that Thompson made, with enough talent left over to make a ton of the throws Thompson couldn't. Avoiding TO's like in the Texas game last year will be what guides this team to success or failure.

stephen (5 years ago)
oregon didn't beat the sooners, and they weren't great. i dont think you could call the sooners great last year either. the OU-miami will be close just because of miami's defense. georgia-OSU will depend of turnovers.
worldpicker (5 years ago)
Steven: OU's pass defense was 41st in the country last, versus teams that can't pass! Defensive coach Vulnerables has his work cut out: Every clip we see in pre-season drills, some guy is racing wide-open toward the end zone. Who is OU's defensive stopper? Time's up. Still don't know.p>
Not Always Right: You're streak is alive. You're apt to be wrong again. Monroe has never been on national TV before. It is simply the school's biggest game ever.


I'm not sold on OSU yet. It's just that the Georgia bandwagon is full for few reasons. If Reid isn't playing well, Gundy needs to get the hook on him early, as the second-team player is solid. This is a huge game, as it will tell Coach Emeritus Pickens if the Cowboys are contenders or pretenders with all his bread.

Steven (5 years ago)
Picker, I will concede that the defense has a lot to live up to (for the umpteenth time) when expectations are generously heaped upon them and Venables (and deservedly so with the talent that routinely comes in). I will not make excuses as to the yards given up in the Oregon and Boise St. game. Many cite the ends of the respective games for these grave injustices (there were) and trick plays (there were) where OU was left looking inadequate. However, even as an OU fan, we gave up way way way too many yards in both of those contests before the start of the 4rth quarter.


Not that this won’t come across as crimson conjecture, but competent OU fans are hoping that the personnel switching on defense has come to a close and that Venables has found the right people for the right position. I do feel we have capable corners in Walker & Smith. Even though we do not have a crowd favorite at linebacker, we will probably be just fine with Reynolds at Will, Lofton at Mike and Baker at Sam. Mike Reed just hasn’t put it all together mentally to crack the rotation. With the DT's taken care of (Granger, McCoy, Coleman all solid with experience and talent), the real question was the DE's. Time will tell, but Dotson, English and Williams all look to have been doing well even against the likes of the big, bad Loadholt. Which leads us to the secondary. Wolfe completes his journeyman career of playing every position by ending up at SS. With Debo (Darien williams) out with a broken foot, Lendy Holmes has been filling in at FS. Here is your argument picker...can the free safeties/strong safeties play in space and figure out their assignments? Hope so...

41rst in passing defense. We still only allowed an average of 188.4 yards a game. Not terrible considering we had an anemic pass rush that resulted in hardly any sacks or pressure. You cannot expect any secondary to stay with receivers when a QB has all day. Thus, the importance of strong D-line play. If the ends and tackles can control the line of scrimmage (unlike last year), the secondary will go from goats to gods (and so will Venables).


The real question, picker, is why OU fans are reluctant to admit that Pelini has been successful at every program except for OU. Was it Venables not accommodating to Pelini's (now nearly proven) system? Or something else. Either way, with those athletes on defense and more coming in (have you seen the '08 commit list?), no reason why OU shouldn’t be living up to the lofty expectations put on them year in and out.

worldpicker (5 years ago)
Steven: We've been asking the Pelini question for years: How can he be a genius everywhere except OU?


What's the big deal about Bradford being named starting quarterback? The other two were something like a combined 5 for 50 in the last scrimmage.


Why won't Wilson throw to a tight end


It's starting to seem like a phobia.


Overrated: West Virginia.


Underrated: Michigan.,p>

worldpicker (5 years ago)
Early point spreads on next week's games: Tulsa is only favored 4 or 5 at Monroe, told you people TU was in very tough.


Georgia is 6-7 versus OSU; which looks perfect.


OU is 41 over North Texas, Arkansas is 24 over Troy.

Jeremy the Greek (5 years ago)
Well, my alter ego must make an appearance for the purpose of diagnosing football spreads.

If I were going to be in Vegas and play real $$, I wouldn't touch any of the three games involving OU, OSU, or TU. I might consider a total, but I haven't seen those numbers and we aren't picking over/unders anyway.

I agree that OSU-GA is a tough game at GA laying 6-7. I can't see OSU winning in Athens, so that only gives me 6-7 points to work with. I may have to flip a coin on this one, but I'm leaning to the home team right now. OU laying 41 is incredible. There are so many bad things about playing games with huge lines (over say 30), that I won't bore you with mentioning all of them. It's another coin flip. With OU's recent inability to cover these early games, I'm leaning toward the points. I was hoping LA-Monroe would get more than 4-5. Here's a game, though, where the home team could win outright! The home field edge for Monroe is nil...until it's under the lights on national TV in the program's biggest game ever! In that case, the home edge is probably 3-5 points. So, Vegas thinks that the public will think that TU is 7-9 points better than Monroe. I'm not a big situational handicapper, but this game has the looks of just a scenario. Leaning toward the home side.

The chosen OU QB seems to be the most steady of the three in practice, but I sure hope Stoops and Co. give #2 plenty of live reps in the 3rd/4th qtrs in the opener (and in game 3 vs Utah St). I never get too caught up in the QB races. I'll wait and see how Bradford competes in front of 80,000 with the 'Canes defense snarling and drueling. Judgment can then be passed.

worldpicker (5 years ago)
Somebody said the secret to picking winners consistently was that you couldn't fight the numbers.


In other words, numbers that look goofy usually aren't.


Here are some slightly funny numbers opening week. Instead of fighting them, let's see what happens if you side with them.


Tulsa minus 5 at UL Monroe -- Very low number, suggesting: Monroe plus 5.


OSU at Georgia (-7) -- Low number, suggesting OSU plus 7.


Georgia Tech at Notre Dame minus two and a half -- Low number, suggesting Tech.


Missouri minus 5 versus Illinois, low number, suggesting Ill plus 5.
Colorado State versus Colorado minus three, high number, suggesting Colorado.


Tennessee at Cal minus five and a half, high number, suggesting Cal.


Texas Tech minus ten at SMU, low number, suggesting SMU.


Let's see if these numbers are saying anything, early.


Jeremy (5 years ago)
I agree with your thoughts about "funny" numbers. When my eyes hit the lines for the first time, I have already made my own line for each game and the funny numbers then stick out.

I tend toward underdogs for the simple fact that the betting public tends to fall in love with favorites. After all, the favorite is supposedly the better team. In other words, I think there's more line value in underdogs than in favorites on average.

My favorite thing to find is a decent dog (let's say by 3-10 points) that could actually win the game outright.

It's gambling though, and like the ponies anything can and will happen. This is why people shouldn't play the rent money. The should just play the "Beat the Picker" contest to feed their habit.

No charge for the plug. ;-)

Vernon Mustin (5 years ago)
Coach Nutt will resign early in the season after being defeated in Fayetteville by Troy. This is an easy pick, because Troy is the better team.
Vernon Mustin (5 years ago)
Coach Nutt will resign early in the season after being defeated in Fayetteville by Troy. This is an easy pick, because Troy is the better team.
Jeremy (5 years ago)
Vernon...I assume you meant "Vernon Mustain"...as in a relative to the QB who tranferred. If so, that's a cute post. If not, you are sick if you think Arkie is not a better football team than Troy.

Picker...I like the cartoon likeness found in today's edition of the World. I didnt' know you had such a big mouth. You also need to learn how to wear a cap correctly. I figured your baseball days would have taught you better...or did they wear caps back then? (gotcha)

For the record, I missed the prizes by ONE freaking win last year...which put me over .500 against the mighty picker. So, to open the smack talk for this year...I hope you've improved!

Good luck to all and may the best picker win...

worldpicker (5 years ago)
Vernon might not be that far off line. The number is only 17. At Arkansas in the opener, that says Troy can indeed play some. Didn't Troy beat Missouri a year or so ago? The Arkansas quarterback couldn't throw one through the goal posts last year. So everybody is going to put all the people on the line. Based on the number seeming small, Troy is absolutely the play.


You know what else might be a little overrated: home field advantage. Everybody gets a schedule to pick a champion. Concerning the point spread, anyway, it was around 50-50 last year, home and visitors.



Vernon Mustin (5 years ago)
Just for the record, I'm in no way related to the whiner Mitch Mustain. I'm glad him and his Mom went to play football in a land far away. If anyone remembers the Razorbacks are on a 3 game losing streak and their bowl game with Wisconsin was one of the poorest coaching jobs ever. On the other hand Troy is getting better every year and they have came very close to pulling off upsets of major teams the last couple of years. Take the points and Troy.
Jeremy (5 years ago)
I like Troy and the points...but Vernon is picking them str8 up. All I said was that Troy was not better than Arkie...but Troy nay indeed be the pick with the points.

I agree about home favs. They usually give up way too many points for reasons discussed earlier. I don't tend to like games with huge lines. There are way too many variables to consider. Will a coach call of the dogs in the 4th? Will the huge dog come in the back door on a meaningless late TD with the fav's 3rd string defense on the field? The only big lines I like are the fishy ones. I remember recently USC being favored at home over a really good team by 21 or so. It seemed like way too many points to give up...but I think USC covered the spread by 21!

worldpicker (5 years ago)
There are stats available on virtually everything -- home favorites, road underdogs getting double digits, etc. And whereas there are runs, streaks, that might extend over the course of a season, it is amazing how close to 50-50 most propositions are.


And people bet their personalities. Where it's legal. They get into predictable routines. I knew a bookie who said he could tell which side of a game a high percentage of his customers would play every single week. Home favorites are traditionally the most predictable picking trend.


Vernon Mustin (5 years ago)
I still belive Troy can beat the Arkies straight up, but I'd go ahead and take the points, just in case.
Vernon Mustin (5 years ago)
Remember that gut feeling I had about Troy? I guess it was just gas, those beans from Wild Horse Mountain are rough.
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