Picker, when do you think the heat will start being placed on Gundy inside/outside the program?? The local media seems to want to give him a pass and keep stating "he's got the program going in the right direction."It's not like he inherited a mess of a program left behind by Miles. Compare the first 3 years under Miles compared to first 3 years under Gundy. By the way, Miles didn't have a $160 million dollars to work with............I'm thinking Kansas puts a death-nail on the 2007 season.

Dissapointed,

Since you brought it up, let's compare Gundy/Miles in the first three seasons.

Season one: Miles 4-7, Gundy 4-7; wash

Season two: Miles 7-5, Houston Bowl win over USM; Gundy 7-6, Indy Bowl win over Alabama; wash

Season three: Miles 8-4, Cotton Bowl loss

As for Gundy's season three, the verdict is still out, but he can still match Miles 5-3 mark in Big 12 play with wins over Kansas and Baylor. And we should note that OSU's schedule in Gundy's third year is FAR more difficult than Miles third year.

One thing that Gundy has certainly done better than Miles is set the program up for longer-term success.

Miles brought in a bunch of questionable guys in the 2001-03 time frame, and the team hit the wall in 2004, before crashing and burning in 2005 after Miles bolted.

While much work remains, Gundy has done a good job of taking OSU from - by far - the WORST team in the league in 2005 to a team that can beat any team in the league in 2007.

It was the one who called the plays who blew it.

We?
What'd you do, have a flat tire outside Norman?
That your "we" connection.
Doesn't switching names so often make you dizzy?
We all know who you are; and still don't like you.

Dissapointed:

Fair points - I was doing the records those years off the top of my head.

Also, I agree somewhat about Fields, but that plays somewhat to my point about OSU under Miles being somehwat of a house of cards. The very fact that we had to rely on D. Woods is my point. Going into year 4 under Miles, the only capable QB we had on campus is now a linebacker/safety. We had no quality depth anywhere - that's why we crashed and burned in '05.

Look at the QB position now - we 3 or 4 highly recruited guys on campus and another on the way for next year.

Also - you have to conceed that if Gundy had Miles' non-conference schedule from 2003, OSU would be sitting at 7-2 right now and poised for an equal or better season than Miles had in '03.

I'm not saying all is well - the defense is still awful... but things are also not as brutal as some are stating.

Again - OSU still has a very good shot at going 5-3 in conference. That is quite a turnaround from 1-7 in '05.

Picker:

Agree that the playcalling was somewhat... questionable in the 4th. The reverse on 4th and 3 was the most egregious example.

However, doesn't it seem somewhat nitpicky to complain about playcalling after the offense rolls up nearly 600 yards?

I still lay 90% of the blame for the loss on the defense. With a 21-point lead and about 10 minutes left, all you need is 1 stop out of 4 tries... a 25% stopping rate shouldn't be too much to ask any defense - even OSU's sieve-like group. Instead, we got 0%.

P.S. On a note related to the aforementioned reverse... why does OSU continue to run Bowman on these reverse plays? He's never struck me as particularly FAST or shifty... It seems to me the best thing to do with Bowman is throw a short passes to him and let him drag tiny DBs 10 yards down the field at a time.

How about we run that reverse with freshman Dez Bryant, who has the makings of a superstar - quick, powerful, great hands and can ALSO carry DBs down field.

Where's the logic saying that voters should give the Heisman to the Oregon quarterback because he'll holding extra points in the pros and the Florida quarterback will be playing center? Last time I checked the Heisman was given to college's football best player, not who may have the best pro career. Using your logic, Jason White shouldn't have even been considered the year he won and Tom Brady, L.T. and Peyton Manning should have the Heisman in their trophy case.

I hear a lot of fire Gundy talk but I haven't heard any names for a new coach. Maybe Mike Stoops or another Stoops assistant, Cale Gundy? I hate to burst the Gundy haters bubble but he will be as good as any coach they have had and will get offers from other schools in 5-7 years.

Oh Danny boy - in 2005, with a freshman QB, Stoops took a 22nd ranked (7-4) Oklahoma team to the Holiday Bowl and beat a 12th ranked
(10-1) Oregon squad.

Thanks for playing, and we have some lovely parting gifts for you...

To: Danny

I read that the Stoolwater fans were holding up four fingers Saturday...to signify the number of years of jail time their LB will get for sexual assault conviction.
I also understand that said LB will miss practice in Stoolwater this week because he has to attend his felony assault trial. You mean, he is still on the team???
Is all of this true??? If so, then, why would you even mention any other team and its discipine of its players.
Some of us get a real laugh hearing you OSwhooers say you are going to 'win out' everytime you lose a game.
And, finally, at least Stoops takes his team to a BCS bowl-a place the Stoolwater crowd just reads about.
ps. Nice game against Texas. Great coaching. I can see why you critiicze other teams coaches what with OSU's world class coaching display Saturday. Keep up the good work, Danny, you are a real genius.

Obviously, the idiot replying as the World Picker was not the World Picker. It was obvious because be/she was so boring and uncreative. So one way to handle that is by the Picker not replying. Lies by morons waste everybody's time.

And NIT PICKER continues to not get the joke... what a surprise.

Boy, NIT PICKER, you sure are "showing" The Picker, aren't you?

Allow me to let you in on something: you represent everything that The Picker makes fun of every week.

The super-serious fan who takes himself and his team oh so seriously.

And here is the punchline: your continued attempts to "slam" the Picker in every single blog just make you look more foolish.

Congratulations on CONTINUING to not get the joke...

WorldPicker - I finally agree with you about something, and I took the same approach. One would think the talented folks at the Tulsa World could figure out a way to require registration and unique usernames/passwords in order to post.

Having said that, OSU Jeff - what's the difference in agreeing or disagreeing with what The Picker writes? You constantly point out that NIT Picker isn't "getting the joke" because he argues with The Picker, are you also not getting the joke because you support everything The Picker says? If the joke is about the "super-serious fan who takes himself and his team oh so seriously", aren't you at least one cheek of that butt? Your in-depth analysis of Oklahoma State games and your "slams" on a fan of your team's biggest rival kind of makes you the pot to NIT Picker's kettle - no?

Anyway, now that I've posted I'm sure there's soon to be some nonsensical drivel on the way with my name on it. Kindly disregard, it's sure to be juvenile, unoriginal, and completely unrelated to any discussion.

Obviously, the idiot replying as the World Picker was not the World Picker. It was obvious because be/she was so boring and uncreative. So one way to handle that is by the Picker not replying. Lies by morons waste everybody's time.