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Jones, Fleming should ask for an All-Big 12 revote
Published: 11/30/2010 11:17 PM
Last Modified: 11/30/2010 11:17 PM

Someone asked Bob Stoops about the coaches' All-Big 12 teams that were revealed Tuesday.

"I'm really happy for the guys that made it," he began. "I'm always surprised at some that don't make it. Not to take anything away from other players in the league. It's always difficult.

"I find it odd that the voting was done before our Oklahoma State game, one of the more important games of the year. That all of the votes are in before that game doesn't seem to be right."

There we go. Stoops played it right down the middle for starters, then veered into the heart of the matter: How was Landry Jones on the third team offense? How was a guy who tied Sam Bradford's single-game passing record in Oklahoma's biggest game of the year slotted below both Brandon Weeden and Robert Griffin?

Weeden put together a terrific 12-game resume. The man leads the Big 12 in passing yardage, passing efficiency and total offense. Justin Blackmon may be the conference offensive player of the year, but Weeden (along with Dana Holgorsen) sure made it easy for him. He is a worthy choice for the first team.

Now for a little secret: Jones was the better quarterback, statistically speaking, in conference play.

He had more completions, 239-214. He had fewer interceptions, 7 to Weeden's 9. His completion percentage was higher, if barely. His yardage total was higher, also barely (2726-2711). His touchdown total was much higher, 25-16.

Griffin trailed both quarterbacks in everything but rushing yardage. And while there is no doubt that Griffin was more valuable to Baylor than Jones and Weeden were to their teams, it's also true that Jones' and Weeden's teams kept thriving while Griffin's faded down the stretch.

Jones and Weeden both KO'd Griffin in head-to-head meetings the last three weeks of the season. Then Jones, thanks to a big finish, outgunned Weeden last Saturday night in Stillwater.

Thus Stoops' reference to ballots being cast before Bedlam.

The worst OU oversight among the coaches' All-Big 12 team was sliding Jamell Fleming all the way down to honorable mention. The junior cornerback led the league in passes defended and tied for third with four interceptions, and yet coaches somehow came up with 11 – 11! – better defensive backs for their first and second team defenses.

Jones' drop to the third team wasn't as egregious. But still, you wonder where he'd have finished had votes been cast Sunday morning instead of last week.

-- Guerin Emig

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Reader Comments 10 Total

Someone New (2 years ago)
What about Trey Millard being 2nd team? I realize I do have a case of crimson colored glasses, but I don't think anyone can touch him in the FB world.
The ORIGINAL Adman (2 years ago)
I know you are the beat writer for Norman College, but this bush league rah-rah BS for OU in all facets of your writing has grown as tiresome as it did when you "left" 1430 for Wichita.

Geez,,, Bill Haisten acts like he's in H - E double hockey sticks by having to cover OSU, doing everything he can to downplay OSU's accomplishments and then there's you. If he were half as rah-rah for OSU as you are for the US Cavalry's 1889 public enemy #1, half the state's population would riot and picket the Tulsa World building.
sportsfan918 (2 years ago)
My hunch is eleven other coaches in the league would rather have Weeden, based solely upon the inconsistency of Landry Jones. What good does it do to lead in a couple of statistical categories if you only play well in 70% of your games?
Top Flight (2 years ago)
I think Weeden is a great QB but I seen this year he was bailed out a lot by Blackmon by snagging every pass thrown up in coverage. I didnt see Jones throw as many deep balls but he didnt have to be saved as much. Jones threw picks that he should have thrown away. They both have flaws but fine QB's. I dont see a problem with Weeden first team or Griffin second. Griffin doesnt have much help.
TMS (2 years ago)
Yeah, let's vote again also, let's replay the Bedlam game. OSU would have to do better. The votes were in due to time required.....does all this equate to whining by OU. I though only Texas did that.
xman (2 years ago)
hey dudes, ive lived all ova the country, but im from tulsa, reality is , o u sooners R HATED EVERYWHERE! what better compliment from yr jealous foes! mr. blackmon from osu is ONE AWESOME reciever, no doubt, a marvel to watch. but playin for ou one has to simply well ...goldbricks for the world to even b recognized! the standard is much higher. ryan broyles is my all american n ANY position! ive never seen a player make soooooooo many clutch plays, 4 and 20 he does it, need a touchdown, he does it. but he plays at that hated okla! he still the man. i lived n tampa and got to see my loved and laughed at bucs..he reminds me of our clutch man in those situations..the hate KEYSHAWN JOHNSON, laugh all u want he went n the middle got smacked but made the clutch catch when it counted..look at the ring on HIS finger..carry on mr. broyles u STILL THE ALL AMERICAN N MY BOOK!
Someone New (2 years ago)
xman - I *think* your post is trying to say that Ryan Broyles got overlooked somewhat, but I'm not totally sure. Care to translate?
whereintheworld (2 years ago)
Weeden is 18th in the nation in INTs.

He is very good, but who would take him over Landry Jones right now? Landry was able to shake off 3 1st-half INTs and play a brilliant 2nd half.

Weeden led OSU to 8 drives with 3 plays or fewer which resulted in either a punt or interception.

Jones led OU to 7 drives with 3 plays or fewer: 3 were INTs, 2 were punts and 2 were for TDs. He also led two long drives in the 3rd quarter eating up 10 minutes and scoring two field goals.

When it mattered, Jones performed.
Victor_E_Rojo (2 years ago)
Griffin is way better than either of those okie guys. He's surrounded by far less talent.
SoonerDJ (2 years ago)
Awards and AA lists are always garbage. I try not to get worked up over them.
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Tulsa World Sports Writer Guerin Emig has covered University of Oklahoma football and men's basketball for the Tulsa World since 2004. He lives in Norman, where he keeps the fact that he is a University of Kansas graduate on the down low.

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Tulsa World Sports Writer Eric Bailey covered TU sports before coming over to the OU beat. He came to the Tulsa World in September 2004 after working eight years at the Springfield (Mo.) News-Leader. He attended Haskell Indian Nations University and the University of Kansas, where he was a 1996 Chips Quinn scholar, a national award given to minority journalism students.

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