This is nothing new! Miami was being investigated by the freaking FBI just after the turn of the century. That investigation just ...."disappeared?" I always wondered, since then, why that happened. It was reported by SI way back in (I don't remember exactly) like...2001-2003. Just not surprising to me at all.

I agree with laz, why not the death penalty? Slaps on the wrists penalties like vacating past wins, probation and loss of scholarships will not scare teams enough. However, taking away football for a year and all the money that, thanks to the Big XII, the public is now fully aware of, will scare teams straight. Bankrupt an athletic department at a BCS school, and maybe these programs will start taking the NCAA regulators seriously.

Yeah, it's ridiculous that just because a kid turns pro he doesn't have to divulge info and/or can avoid penalties that he committed which damaged the program. Hold the kid responsible by making the NFL penalize the kid. They are only getting a free "minor league" system out of the NCAA anyway.

What a joke!

Yeah, it's ridiculous that just because a kid turns pro he doesn't have to divulge info and/or can avoid penalties that he committed which damaged the program. Hold the kid responsible by making the NFL penalize the kid. They are only getting a free "minor league" system out of the NCAA anyway.

What a joke!

Yeah, it's ridiculous that just because a kid turns pro he doesn't have to divulge info and/or can avoid penalties that he committed which damaged the program. Hold the kid responsible by making the NFL penalize the kid. They are only getting a free "minor league" system out of the NCAA anyway.

What a joke!

The players already are held accountable as much as they can be. Terrelle Pryor's punishment, as much as could have been given by Ohio State and the NCAA, was loss of eligibility. Yes, that means he now goes to the NFL to make real money, but that can't change. What else should he do? What else should the NCAA do to hold him accountable?

But if you take away football for a year for a BCS school, you bankrupt their entire athletic department. Do it to Miami, and I guarantee you, other schools' compliance departments will increase in size by 10 fold. This will also scare coaches, administrators, board of regents, trainers, or anybody who has knowledge of their school cheating (and as the Miami story shows, EVERYBODY is aware) with the knowledge that if caught, they will NEVER work in college athletics again.

I don't think the death penalty should ever be put on another school again. It's a travesty what the National Communists Against Athletes did to SMU. Yes, the deserved a harsh penalty but not the death of the program.

There have been schools who have done far worse and not gotten that treatment. What the NCAA has to do is have open process and have fair penalties instead of wrist slaps for favored programs like Ohio State. Watch them get away w/ very little even though what their players did was far worse than the University of Spoiled Children (USC) did.

As much as I dislike Miami and their loudmouth players and alums I do not want to see them get the death penalty...

I don't think the death penalty will work anymore, players and boosters will just get more creative. Take away 10 scholarships per year for 4 years, no non-conference games and no TV for 2 years, and make the school ineligible to receive any of "their share" of the conference revenues for 2 years. While not carrying the stigma of the death penalty, it hits the schools the same way.

The reason for NOT giving the death penalty is if you do that you penalize the innocent. There are plenty of players who did not do anything wrong and that was the issue w/ SMU and as per what Pokefan519 says you bankrupt the whole sports program and again punishing kids who did nothing wrong.

You have to change the rules so that the people on the take are PUNISHED. Only way you do that is either have lawmakers create laws enforcing punishment to those who break rules once they turn pro or change schools in the case of coaches and administrators. Or the NCAA creates contracts w/ coaches, administrators (Dr. Shalala is as guilty as any player, she was on the take too, LOL) and the NFL to enforce its rules. The NFL is a complete joke in this as far as I am concerned....they don't want to rock the boat on the free Minor League system they have in place, but they need their world rocked because they are complicit in all of this!

As is the NBA when it comes to coaches who cheat and then run off their for employment. How is that fair? Ask people at OU if it is that Kevin Sampson can break all those rules and leave trouble in the wake yet he is doing well...

Do you imagine that Shapiro knew or associated with any other boosters?

Do you imagine that there was no competition among the other boosters for the attention of the players that all boosters are so enamoured with?

How in the world did Florida and Florida State manage to compete for recruits? Compete they did.

USC, u0, Ohio State, Miami... Auburn and Oregon under investigation...

The problem is systemic and philosophical.

A system that is based upon subjective, artificial, and exclusionary measures at the expense of scoreboard based confirmation is a prime breeding ground for corruption.

By its very nature the BCS is corrupt and the BCS is at the root core of these scandals and "conference realignment" alike.

Rules enforced by a governing entity that embraces the BCS system of superficial distinction's, artificial measures, and discriminatory segregation of BCS haves and have-nots????

For justice to be just it must be blind to all superficial distinctions and without a just system, there can be no rule of law.

There was nothing blind about the artificial subdivision of
Division IA (FBS) that is known as the BCS and there is nothing just about a system whose "champion" is a result of a beauty pageant instead of a legitimate playoff.

There is no argument against legitimate playoff's in Division IA that you couldn't make against High School State Playoffs on one end or the NFL Playoffs on the other. All such arguments are BS.

"Conference realignment" into 4 two division elitist and exclusionary Super Conferences that coincide with 4 elitist BCS Bowls and the systemic breakdown of the rule of law share the same root cause. The unjust by nature BCS.

Artificial, subjective, and unjust Recruiting Stars influence Preseason Polls, Preseason Polls influence mid-season BCS Polls, and BCS Polls determine the Champion regardless of the records of the BCS-excluded FBS membership.

The problem is systemic.

SixGun you are much too wise to be posting here...Money talks. Take that away and you would see a big reduction in cheating. Somehow, for the NCAA actually be productive, they need broader ivestigative powers, such as access to subpoenas.