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Next Tee Please
Published: 8/13/2007 11:43 AM
Last Modified: 8/13/2007 11:43 AM

OU VERSUS TEXAS (-2) IN THE COTTON BOWL -- Many grand things came form the PGA championship just concluded, one being that Tulsa and Oklahoma City people are very competitive, media and fans alike.
Take THAT, Oklahoma City, with your rinky-dink semi-pro, semi-crooked NBA, and fake river.
The PGA championship just concluded was the greatest sporting event ever to take place in Oklahoma, at the greastest sporting venue. All else falls into the ho-hum, by-the-way category.
We just had Ali in his prime getting off the floor to record a last-round knockout; Jordan hitting a fall-away jumper over Bird in a seventh-game overtime finals thriller; Montana completing a 90-yarder to win the Super Bowl with no time left; Connors acing Borg on the last point of a five-setter; Aaron lining three out to win the World Series.
How could it possibly get any better that what trasnpired at Southern Hills. Glad to have the pouty OKC media up for the greatest sporting event in state history. To some of them, don't let the Pike Pass hit you in the backside.
Getting on to the biggest football game of the year: It has gotten debatable when it comes to determining just which coach owns the other in this rivalry, hasn't it.
Texas has a monstrous edge at quarterback, as many Sooner fans have chosen to foreget that the Horns' late-season swoon was caused by an injury to the qb.
Will OU play too conservatively, fearing interceptions so much that the third-down throws have become too predictable?
Will the Texas short passing game be too much for Venables to stop?
Just how big is this game?
The winner has a solid shot at the national championship game.
At this point: Texas by 4.




Reader Comments 61 Total

TAB (6 years ago)
Hard to call some of the achievements of the state schools in the "ho-hum, by-the-way category" -- for example, OU football's seven national championships mean quite a bit. I think a lot of states, including Texas, would like that. Granted, not all of that took place "IN" Oklahoma, but a lot did, including much of the 47 game winning streak and the Game of the Century.

I agree with the rest and enjoy the slight at the Red City, but I think your credibility on the issue would be helped if you would try to stay somewhat objective -- the overstatement cats a show on your objectivity. I thought you were about busting the homers?

worldpicker (6 years ago)
Hey TAB, school starts soon, take a reading course. It was the greatest sporting event to take place in Oklahoma, ever. It is the best sports venue in the state, period. Nobody is talking GROUP or OUT OF STATE baloney. You can argue just to be arguing. Just get it straight.


Steve (6 years ago)
TAB would argue with a wall.
worldpicker (6 years ago)
I'll put $5 on the wall unless it's brick. Then $10.
Jeremy (6 years ago)
What the picker is saying is right on. Nothing in this states sports past comes close to Tiger winning the PGA in Tulsa...on a national scale. After all...Tiger is without a doubt the most popular sports figure in the world. Let's put that argument to rest.

I see you have UT favored by 2 at this point. The last line I saw had the game at pickem. No matter...Texas probably deserves to be a slight favorite if the game were played tomorrow. If Paul Thompson were returning (in other words...if OU had a known quantity at QB), I'd favor OU slightly.

The Sooners will have one of the top 5 OL's in the nation...and they are deep. WR Kelly is a star. The TE's (Wilson, PLEASE use these guys for something other than a good block on the stretch play) are the best trio in the game. The RB position is deep and very talented. The defense must improve its ability to get off the field on third down (which includes rushing the passer and actually running with deep WR's). Stoops claims the LB's are awesome...but thin at the position. He also claims that Wolfe is practicing better than any player he's had at safety (REALLY???), which when combined with Smith and Walker, makes perhaps the best secondary in football.

Having typed all that, I'd say the DL and the QB will make or break OU's season. Until we see how the QB plays versus Miami on game two...and as the picker aluded too...how OC Wilson will CREATIVELY use all those offensive weapons, then the OU-UT game is a coin toss. I have a bad feeling that Stoops will play conservative versus the Canes since the game is in Norman. I hope not. Even this massive OL won't beat that kind of talent if the sequences are run, run, pass, punt.

For those of us with clear memories though, it's nice to see the Sooners' name once again mentioned as a title contender before the season begins.

worldpicker (6 years ago)
Jeremy: The drive Tiger hit on 16 was mind-boggling. It won him the tournament. It went something like 600 yards, perfectly straight. After spraying woods all day.


This OU season is right in the laps of the two co-ordinators. Enough good players are there. Can Wilson throw well enough to win? Can Venables stop a decent team from passing?


It's that simple.


As Tiger says, it's all about winning the majors. OU's majors are Texas and a bowl.


TAB (6 years ago)
Testy, testy dear Picker. Did Al Esbach and Deano rub off on you this weekend? I'm pretty sure "The Game of the Century" was a sporting EVENT. It was not in "the ho-hum, by-the-way category." A brick wall wouldn't make that kind of overstatement. But you did.
worldpicker (6 years ago)
Game of the Century involving a sport played in one country. Not a sporting event for the WORLD, watched by the world, involving THE WORLD'S BEST EVER! Greatest in the world, TAB, means greatest in the world. Not one of the best in a tiny little corner of the country.

SuperBlogger (6 years ago)
Picker, you're all wet. Yeah, it's true that Chung Ya in Beijing has never hear of OU football, but then again, he's never heard of Tiger Woods, either. The vast majority of the civilized world (criteria for civilized? the ability to read and write and the disinclination to devour one's neighbors...) knows neither golf or American football. In fact, the vast majority of mammals on the planet barely fall within the aforementioned definition of civilized (have you driven from Lewis to Harvard on 15th St. lately?). Golf ain't a sport, Jack. It's a distraction practiced as well by octogenarians as by the young. It requires little stamina (now you're going to mention the heat at Southern Hills...how many fat, out-a-shapers did you see in the gallery besides the golfers on the green?) Point being, anyone can shag a spheroid around somebody else's lawn. While on the other hand, Oklahoma football is a superlative endeavor responsible for a record that ...are you listening...will NEVER be surpassed. Just because Sandy Koufax's records are not recognized by Mercyzn Stanislowski in Lodz doesn't mean they are not of major import. Please, please get off of your golf soapbox. You're boring us.
TAB (6 years ago)
I'm not arguing that the PGA wasn't the greatest sporting event in the state -- never said anything to the contrary. I just don't think you can fairly denigrate some of the other big things that happened here the way you did with the "ho-hum, by-the-way category" language . I think you made too broad of a statement. That OU-Nebraska game, one example, had major national hype from what I've read, as have many other things. Were they the greatest events ever in the state? No. But they weren't the chopped liver I took you to imply.
worldpicker (6 years ago)
SuperBlogger and TAB, it's good to see like minds getting together.


What do you mean get off golf, I just picked the OU - Texas football game, were it to be played today.


Quick, you guys go put on the Sports Animal radio network, they're going to rank which Big 12 has the best underwear. Looks like OU wins again!

worldpicker (6 years ago)
SuperBlogger: An event is what it says. Singular. You saying OU's game at Kansas during the streak back in the fifties is as meaningful as the greatest golfer ever winning at one of the greatest courses?


A venue is what it says. A site.


You OU fans seem to want to argue when there is no argument to start with. Does that really mean the quarterback has a noodle arm? Best football streak? OU. Best series of games back when? OU. Best event, best venue, Tiger wins at Southern Hills.



Jeremy (6 years ago)
SuperDuperSoonerBlogger...I am a HUGE OU fan, so keep that in mind before reading on. You honestly believe OU football is comparible with Tiger Woods in the national/world scale of sports? Not even close. Did this weekends PGA get the attention of more Oklahomans than an OU football game would? That MIGHT be arguable. But I guarantee you that the PGA would gather more eyeballs on Tulsa from around the nation and the world than on Friday night when the Sooners come to Skelly. That's a fact.

Yeah, picker, the two coordinators need to pull their weight this season. I don't doubt their intensity or ability to teach these athletes football...but Wilson and Venables have made questionable calls in the past two years. I'm not saying they aren't really good coaches, because I love the situation the Sooners are in these days. But I can pick out a few mistakes they've made recently. Course, they're human and thus will err. But some very bad decisions have been made in some critical situations.

Here's two from last year on defense. Versus UT (I know...OU outgained the Horns by 100 yds and had many TO's...but still) on a third down and long from the OU 20-something yard line, DJ Wolfe comes up in tight in man coverage on Limus Sweed. No safety help...and DJ hadn't played well all year at the time. The young Horn QB throws the easy fade TD to the huge WR Sweed for a TD. Bad defensive call. Here's the other. It's 4th and a mile against Boise St. in Tempe...WITH LESS THAN 20 SECONDS LEFT. The hook-and-ladder was run to perfection, but every Sooner defender ran right at the WR who caught the pass. Noone stayed home to protect the goal line. With over a minute to go, sure...go after the guy and keep him from making the first down. In that situation though, the 1st down meant nothing! Only a play or two was left anyway. I'd have put at least one safety at the freaking 5 yard line and told him not to move unless he was keeping a Boise player from scoring.

I know, hindsight is 20-20. Players need to make plays, that is my strong belief. But coaches need to put these players in position to succeed.

TAB (6 years ago)
Keep back peddling there, Picker... I clearly share your contempt for the OKC Sports Hyena. I enjoy when you stick it to them. My point, for the twelth time, was that you were overbroad in your statement. I never said OU football or any of the other great events were bigger -- my point was that they were significant and not in the "ho-hum, by-the-way category." You chose those words, not I.

Your statement was not limited to venue -- in fact, you distinguish "venue" from "event" in the same sentence. And, for the second time, I didn't say this PGA was not the greatest event ever in the state. I'll look for a proof reading class at TCC for you while I look for that reading class you suggested. Maybe an anger management course for you, too.

worldpicker (6 years ago)
Jeremy: At some point, we need to talk about what will be a successful season for OU.


Last year, numerous bozos said OU's season could be considered a success. I said bull. So we should talk about it now.


Texas and a bowl game are the set in stone majors for OU, right? OSU is right there. And, depending on the flow of the conference stuff, another major could show up.


OU has to beat Texas, OSU and win its bowl game for THIS season to be considered a success, correct?


And, with the best offense in the country, OSU has to beat 7-5 to have what is considered to be a successful season?


Tulsa? Eight-four is a serious success?


worldpicker (6 years ago)
SuperBlogger: How'd that OU-Texas game come out last year?


So you love that Northwestern offense and that Venerables pass D?


This year it looks like equal talent; so we'll see who can coach, straight up.

TAB (6 years ago)
I'm not sure TU can go 8-4. I would argue that's a success, though -- it wasn't all that long you deemed them unworthy of a pick. Is it a resounding, best of the best season? No. But it sure beats the heck out of where they were.

Similar argument for OU football. Greatest season ever? No -- that happened only seven times. But last year was nice for fans, given everything that went wrong. A conference championship is a conference championship. Sure beats the heck out of how bad they were about 10 years ago.

worldpicker (6 years ago)
So everybody is in complete agreement. The PGA at Southern Hills was the greatest single sporting event in Oklahoma history. And if THIS OU team loses to Texas and loses its bowl game, it could be a good season, but will not be a great season.


Jeremy (6 years ago)
Picker...your last post was accurate on how I see OU football as being successful. I'll point out, though, that every season is different.

Let's take last season for example. When Bomar and Quinn were booted, and PT had to move back to QB, the nation and the state didn't give OU much of a chance to get to a BCS game. I know I didn't. I thought last season was a good year, which I'll call a successful year. To me, winning the Bog 12 Title makes any season successful. I actually agree with Stoops in this area. You can't win all the marbles until you win the Big 12 (at least, most of the time). You might recall that we argued about this some time ago. Just because OU lost to Texas and its bowl game didn't make last year a bad year. It wasn't great either. Do I want to beat Texas. Absolutely...into the ground.

This season the expectations are high. The Sooners have much returning talent on both sides of the ball. Not winning the Big 12 Title would be disappointing. This would likely mean a Texas loss. Looking ahead to 2008, the returning QB and even more returning starters will definately set very high expectations. I'd say winning a BCS bowl is the bottom line for a good year in 2008. I heard that since the BCS was formed, only ONE BCS game has been won with a freshman QB!!! This can't bode well for this year.

Another factor here is my age. I grew up during the late 70's and 80's...when OU ruled. My early adulthood (and thus my years as an "educated" OU fan) was spent watching a bad product under terrible direction in the 90's. I guess the bad decade in Sooner football is still too fresh in my memory to call 1, 2, or even 3 loss seasons "bad years".

TAB (6 years ago)
I believe the term you originally used, Picker, was "success." Last season was a success for OU. They won their conference.
Jimbo (6 years ago)
UT-Norman will beat big brother UT-Austin 28-27 and Stoopr will receive another million dollar raise. You heard it here first.
worldpicker (6 years ago)
Some might say OU won the conference because the Texas quarterback got hurt.


Jimbo: Word on the street is the freshman quarterback has a little of the Captain in him -- he's spirited, and is like Bomar -- with better judgement. The unspoken vibe is that the talent level at qb is:
1. The freshman.
2. The other one.
3. The third one.

worldpicker (6 years ago)
By the way, does anybody else think that Viking Peterson is no gimmie star in the NFL? His first scrimmage, he was punished.

SuperBlogger (6 years ago)
How did the OU-Texas game come out last year? What in the devil does that have to do with what we're talking about in general? Picker, your attempt at obfuscating the issue is rather sad...you're rapidly becoming the crown prince of the non sequiter. And thanks for the definition of 'venue'; we know it's a site...but thinking folks realize that it isn't the be-all and end-all of the contest. Southern Hills may be nice but it ain't no Scotland now, is it? Now, back to OU-Tx. The talent is far from equal. Haven't you followed recruiting for the past decade? Texas buries Oklahoma almost every year in 5-Star blue chip recruits. There is NO comparison in talent. Do the Sooners actually have talent? Of course, and lots of it. But in terms of quality, it's like comparing filet mignon to sirloin. The right chef can turn sirloin into something terrific and the wrong chef can make filet more unpalatable than spam.
SuperBlogger (6 years ago)
...and yeah, Peterson looked quite average, if that, last weekend. Anyone who expects him to come out with a red 'S' emblazoned on his jersey will have to do some quick readjusting in their thought processes. Will he be good in the long run? If he holds up physically, I think so.
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