I heard the same thing. Self went to 'the wall' and got the GPA standards relaxed on his group of recruits. I think anyone since Self could have had the same effect given he could recruit any dumb jock.

There will need to be a new air traffic control tower built at the state fairgrounds next year with all the goofy banners flying around. Texas is going to hurt the gooners big time...

Please Mr. Picker!!!!! Would you and Coach Jones pick the Gators please!! Pretty Please!!!!! I promise I won't say a word about it afterword.
Reply to Carles Lindbergh's insightful and detailed comments.
1. Oh Yeah!!!
2. My brother can beat up your brother!!
3.Your Mother wears Army Boots
4. OSU by 3
5.Enjoy the secondary BCS Bowl

POOR, POOR, ARTHUR? Did you not know that OU has so many BLUE CHIPPERS that Texas will not have anything on OU next season? We could lose just about everyone and still compete with the LONGHORNS. BOOMER SOONER!!!!!

I could care less why UT didn't win the tiebreaker...all I know is that everyone agreed on the rules before the season and OU came out on top...so GRIN AND BEAR IT SHORTHORNS!! By the way...a point differential favors OU as well! Sorry...was supposed to table the topic. As for OU-Fla, I'll wait to see who comes up injured/ineligible before picking a winner...but I'm leaning toward the Gators right now. Offenses are a push...Fla has defensive and special teams edges.

Dear Chris:

Please learn to read.
I said playing Texas in the Cotton Bowl in October set in the middle of the Texas State Fair was not a neutral field.
I did not say it was an away game for OU.

You have pulled a World Picker and re-written my post.

Won't happen, punk.

Away game? Road Game? Neutral Field? Beats me what it is....what would you call playing Florida in Miami? Would UF be a 3-point fav if the game was in Muskogee?

As for OU having to play the Gators in the state of Florida, I don't worry about that too much. The Sooners had a "half-a-country" edge on USC in the Orange Bowl and we all know what happened! I also remember a NC won over FSU in the Orange Bowl. The team that plays the better game on Jan. 8 will grasp the crystal...

So, Jeremy, let me get this straight.

You think that the OU/UT game is a road game for OU and home game for UT every year? Is that your point?

I really am curious. I don't understand the logic, but am still curious.

This might be a silly question/observation, but there seem to be two arguments that contradict one another that people are using together, on the topic of OU vs. Texas and in fact the whole three way tie, which is really fascinating from a statistical point of view.

The first argument, a basic one, is the win loss record. The second one is that later games count more than earlier games. If the second argument is valid, then don't 28 points in an earlier game count for less than 28 points in a later game? Or doesn't a win in an earlier game count for less than in a later game? Like maybe only .80 wins instead of one whole win?

Seems to me the computers have to be programmed to EITHER weight all wins and points the same, OR to value ALL points, including all the statistics, on a deflationary model, that is, assigning progressively decreasing value to all statistics. Otherwise, the notion of "winning more later in the season" cannot be quantified fairly.

If you want to award points to a team for scoring over 60 points 5 games in a row, then build that into the model. Would that feat be worth less if it occurred in the first five games of the season, than the last five games of the season? If so, by how much?

Either a team is a team is a team, and numbers are not inflated or deflated from the start of the season to the end, or you have to quantify the value of time and adjust all stats accordingly.

No?

Good post turus. Made me chuckle for sure. I'll take any point made for OU, UT, and Tech that does not throw a team out and go to head-to-head. You just can't do that when all 3 are 1-1 vs each other. Makes no sense at all. I think Leach is getting the shaft here because his squad lost by a bundle in Norman. If you want to take into account the margin of winning/losing, then look at a point differential. With the BCS in the mix, you better make sure your conference stays in the NC hunt. The Big 12 has it right...it's the BCS that is stupid.

It's tough to look ahead to Florida when the game is a month away (the main thing I hate about the bowls is the time off). I already claimed that Florida is better on special teams (who isn't?) and prolly better on defense. Give OU a slight edge on offense (I said puch earlier, but I'll change my mind). If I'm OU's defense, I make Tebow beat me with his arm and not his feet (or Harvin's feet). In other words, I sell out to stop the run and hope corners Jackson and Franks play the game of their lives in man coverage. May be too tall an order though...