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Sooner Coaches Uncoordinated
Published:
11/8/2010 12:27 PM
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11/8/2010 12:27 PM
Here is the homer's refrain: Our kicking game is killing us. But just give us a year, our freshman class is great, we'll be back.
Criticizing the kicking game is like worrying about a splinter. It's not a reflection on the overall program. It's nitpicking. Sure, the kicking game is lousy at OU. But it's way down on the stinker list. And as for next year being great, average players don't have to improve, freshman flop. Optimism a year out is cheerleader babble.
Here's the problem at OU: The problems have existed for year after year after big game after big game, road game after road game, fourth quarter after fourth quarter, and they're not being fixed, not even close.
Venables' defense gives up too many big plays. "He's still open" can be said about most big-game opponents. When is the last time an OU defense made a play to win a big game? A decade ago? The defense routinely looks confused against good teams.
And this hurry-up-and-punt spread offense with an immobile quarterback, it lacks creativity.
When problems persist over many years, what's the answer? New ideas. A fresh perspective. What they're doing at the highest level of competition isn't working. If the Stoops doctrine forbids the dumping of any extremely, extremely, unbelievably well-paid coach, fine: But what would be wrong with getting the old coaching club some new help?
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U.S. PATRIOT
(2 years ago)
Bingo! We have a winner.
Couldn't have said it any better, picker.
LaffALot
(2 years ago)
Oklahoma is 22-19 away from home since the start of 2005
Against A&M, OU had 104 offensive plays.
How many miscues in the Red Zone?
Landry was sacked 4 times.
Thanks to OU, avg. Coach Sherman
stays @ A&M another year after
looking like a “genius’ against
a predictable OU offense.
What happens to the Sooner nation IF they loose in Waco?
Anyone else smelling a OSU blowout
over them Sooners in a few weeks?
O/s of a 5 Big 12 Championships,
When was the last Big Game won by Big Game Bob?
Is Barry Switzer right, is OSU about to pass by OU
as the dominant f-ball program in the state?
What school has newer
& better facilities than them Cowboys?
Tulsaadguy
(2 years ago)
When you have talented players who can't produce it generally means one thing...COACHING! The coaching staff is responsible for recruiting the talent, training the talent, and then putting together a game plan that will work. What does the OU coaching staff need to do to take advantage of their talent pool? And if the players can only get motivated when they play at home, then that is a coaching weakness too. Somebody down Norman way needs to get serious.
wgspost
(2 years ago)
Gentlemen, think back...it has been a slow, insidious process of degeneration in Norman. Blake left and Stoops entered the picture and by comparison (both personally and professionally), the messiah had just broken bread in the promised land. And then, lo' and behold, said Messiah leads the long-suffering (1988-1998) chosen people to the promised land with a completely unexpected national title in 2000. Suddenly, Stoops could do no wrong; his offense weathered the departure of Leach well with Mangino and the Mike Stoops/Brent Venables tandem seemed to be producing the perfect "Dick and Perry" synergy required for good defense. And then...bit by bit...we starting losing. First, winning the "Big Game" was replaced by "Heck, at least he gets us to the big game", and then we began losing almost every contest we played after Dec 5; and then, we weren't just losing but losing ugly (you never saw an opponent tatoo 55 points on Switzer's behind, did you?), and now we're playing .500 ball (maybe) on the road and struggling to avoid embarrassment, all to the tune of $ mil a year to Mr. Stoops. And if the head coach doesn't show some testosterone by realigning his coaching staff and putting the best players on the field as promised (are you listening Landry), we're going to find ourselves saddled with a permanently mediocre team with an even larger salary (did anyone catch the fact that Wilson and Venables just received raises a few weeks ago?).
MexiMike
(2 years ago)
"And this hurry-up-and-punt spread offense with an immobile quarterback, it lacks creativity."
OSU doesn't seem to be having a problem running the spread with an immobile QB...
Just saying.
Pokefan04
(2 years ago)
Uh MexiMike, Brandon Weeden IS a mobile QB. Did you NOT see those scrambles on Saturday? He outrushed Griffin!! OSU needs to start executing more zone-reads!! Haha!!
SS_Hippy
(2 years ago)
Last year OU's db's kept dropping game changing interceptions. not even getting to them this year. when a college offense is sputtering the defense needs to make the big plays.
BOOMER! SOONER!
(2 years ago)
It's time for a change. I'm tired of trying to rationalize the decisions of the OU coaching staff. Kevin Wilson is unbearable. Venables is frustrating but not to the extent of Wilson. I would rather that Stoops replace both.
But What Do I Know?
(2 years ago)
If the Sooners had not won the 2000 National Championship Stoops would already be gone. True or false?
And even that is wearing thin.
wgspost
(2 years ago)
Stoops' tragic flaw just might be his loyalty; he will stubbornly stand by Wilson and Venables...admirable traits usually, but not when so many are so highly invested in the result of his efforts.
wgspost
(2 years ago)
Interesting suggestion, 'But What Do I Know' puts forth. Whether he'd be gone or not is questionable; what is not questionable is that there would be far more heat from the state media bearing down upon him had he not grabbed the golden ring in '00.
HospRx
(2 years ago)
I think Saturdays game at A&M was the worst performance by a Sooner team since at least the 55-?? smack down by USC. This team played 14:30 of decent football in the 3rd quarter. The rest of the time they looked worse than a team from the Muskogee School of the Blind (sorry Blind kids). As a Sooner fan, I am hoping that the freshmen will blossom sooner rather than later. As a realist, I understand that the coaching staff is not doing it's job in preparing these kids to play. This was a terrible effort and if they continue this way I hope at least OSU would represent the state as the BIG 12 South's best.
get to the CHOPPA!
(2 years ago)
Brandon Tweeden is the best QB in the Big12! - signed Kirk Herbstriet
Davezter
(2 years ago)
I completely echo the majority of the sentiments expressed in this thread. It's coaching, and Stoops is so stubborn he refuses to make the changes in the coaching staff needed to correct the problems. For 10 years, Stoops has had a pass because he won the National Championship using players that had all been recruited by John Blake. Since then, we've spent 10 seasons earning, rightfully so, the national nickname "Chokelahoma". The coaching staff doesn't make adjustments, doesn't stick with what's working, lacks creativity, and I don't think they're any good at picking the right positions for players. We have the fattest and slowest linemen I've seen in ten years.
DomoArrigato
(2 years ago)
Shake things up with a new offensive coordinator...Bryan Harsin Offensive Coordinator at Boise State. Then if that doesn't shake things up enough, demote Venables to Linebacker coach only, and hire Manny Diaz from Middle Tennessee as Defensive Coordinator.
Go after Ammon Lakip, Chattahoochee High School
Georgia, Class of 2011 Number One kicker prospect. Then go after Cliff Hurst, number two punting prospect out of Louisiana.
Glenn616
(2 years ago)
Changes have been needed for the past 4-5 seasons. It's long overdue that Stoops make coaching staff changes during the off season. If something isn't working, try something different. When you have talent on the offensive and defensive lines and fail to develop over the course of the season, that's on the coaching staff. The consistent lack of discipline on the defensive side of the ball is also a sign of lousy coaching.
If it weren't for Josh Heupel, Stoops would be taking a lot more heat.
I'll end my post with the following analogy:
Josh Heupel is to Bob Stoops as Vince Young is to Mack Brown.
get to the CHOPPA!
(2 years ago)
DomoArrigato........Thank you for finally offering a solution. It gets old hearing fans shout to fire the coach but they dont offer a solution. I agree with your post and think both would be a great addition. We should also go after TCU's D-Coordinator because they are lights out.
yep
(2 years ago)
Lack of a defense puts the offense under too much pressure. Look what happened when Missouri played a Nebraska defense. Even some past teams had weak defenses, but were able to get through most of the season with overpowering offenses. They didn't get 'undone' until they ran into a program who could exploit that. Remember the USC blowout? This season, the offense is pretty good but not great...and less talented programs such as Missouri and Texas A&M are able to undo OU. I'm sure OSU is salivating in wait for their turn at OU.
hootie
(2 years ago)
Less than 2 years ago most people could not give enough praise to Wilson and Vennables. Talk about fickle! The problem with the O is the O-line. They are still very young but a shake needs to occur at that coachin position. As for the D, once again there is a lot of youth. Look how many players left to the pros off of last years D. You can't always replace them overnight. The biggest problem is the FANS! Most of their lives are so pathetic that they have to live it thru a bunch of 20 yr olds. If the team plays bad and looses, all they have to look forward to is thei miserable life. Do you all critique you own life as much as you do the coaches and players???? Maybe some need to give it a try!
sj58
(2 years ago)
OU-Overated Underachievers! Someone should lose their positions over this crap, either coaches or starters. Change something, this ain't workin, give someone else a chance to prove they can play or coach!
G-Block
(2 years ago)
...Rashuan Woods is still open.
norsemustang
(2 years ago)
Here's what I think. Screw 5 star recruits. Screw 40 yard dash, vertical leap, and bench press numbers. None of those things are a substitute for toughness, intelligence, work ethic, or character. When less talented teams lose, at least many of them fight to the very end. I don't sense that from OU and I haven't sensed that from them for a long time.
Not that the players are the only ones to blame. Quite the contrary. Stoops is a great head coach, but he gives his assistants way too many free passes when things go wrong. I don't know that firing any of them is the answer, but he could chew them out from time to time. They are so incompetent at times that it makes me wonder if Jenks doesn't have a better coaching staff than OU.
gba
(2 years ago)
TCU is a school with only 8,500 students
recruiting is very limited due to many larger schools in Texas
why are they #3 in the polls?
EVERY player on the football team has bought in to the philosophy of the coaching staff
IT IS ALL ABOUT COACHING
I think Stoops has a hard time getting his philosophy across to his players
or just doesn't seem to care any more
MexiMike
(2 years ago)
gba, it might have something to do with TCU's soft schedule as well...just saying.
American Psycho
(2 years ago)
To your point Norsemustang - look at OU's basketball squad last year. 3 mcDonald's All-Americans??? they were horrible because they each wanted the spotlight and didn't "buy in".
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