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TU declined OSU's offer of an additional football-basketball deal
Published: 12/2/2009 8:51 AM
Last Modified: 12/2/2009 2:27 PM

Tonight's Oklahoma State-University of Tulsa competition is significant in that fans are treated to a quality basketball game and TU savors what has become a rarity – a sellout at the Reynolds Center.

In 2006, the schools agreed on a contract for three football games and four men's basketball games. The basketball series began last year, with OSU prevailing in a blowout at Gallagher-Iba Arena. The football series begins next year. The Cowboys and Golden Hurricane meet in 2010 at Stillwater, in 2011 at TU's Chapman Stadium and in 2012 at Stillwater.

Considering the terms of the basketball arrangement, why isn't tonight's game being played at the BOK Center? During the series, the home team keeps 100 percent of the ticket revenue. Instead of 8,355 at the Reynolds Center, there likely would have been a crowd of 15,000 or more at the BOK. TU would have kept every penny of the ticket revenue.

The 2010 OSU-TU basketball game will be played at the BOK Center. OSU has access to half of the tickets, but TU keeps all of the money.

Also, why didn't TU athletic director Bubba Cunningham accept the offer of an additional football-men's basketball contract? OSU proposed a second contract, which would have included three additional football meetings and four additional basketball games.

In spite of attendance problems in both sports, TU said no.

In both sports, TU and OSU should play on a frequent and long-term basis. It's a natural and compelling rivalry. The campuses are separated by only 73 miles.

Until last year, the Cowboy and Hurricane basketball teams hadn't met in 12 years. That's ridiculous.

– Bill Haisten

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Bill Haisten
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Reader Comments 10 Total

KYCane (3 years ago)
Short-sightedness on Bubba Cunningham's part (especially the ticket revenue at the BOK Center.) Obviously checking scheduled events at the BOK Center could prevent a "conflict of venue" excuse to be used in NOT using the BOK Center. TU ALWAYS seems to underplan.
ktulsafan (3 years ago)
Tulsa should not give up its' home court advantage in Reynolds Center. Any football games need to be EVENLY split between Tulsa and Stillwater.
airblair223 (3 years ago)
+1 ktulsafan... It's not JUST about the money. It's also about winning games and going to post-season. In truth, Tulsa will make MORE money if they win tonight at home, then if they played OSU in the BOK and lost. Why? Because Tulsa will build momentum within its fan base if it wins the game, and subsequently, Tulsa will sell more tickets for its other remaining games. It's not rocket science. And it's definitely not about being a hospitable host for a school that's turned its nose up at Tulsa for more than a decade.
Merked (3 years ago)
Keith Burns and the idiot AD that allowed him to talk trash about OSU is the reason for this occurrence. Before this OSU would play home and home in bball and football. With the new stadium I dont see that as a possibility with OSU wanting to schedule 7 to 8 home games per year, much like the SEC football teams do. Why is this game not televised since it is a sellout? TU needs to get it together or they may not receive another offer from STATE!
gus (3 years ago)
Bill, keep trying to get OS past mid major status!
sax5084 (3 years ago)
TU owns the Reynolds center, so, it's not really as clear cut as you make it seem. They get money from 6000 extra tickets sold, but you have to subtract what they pay to the BOK, and also subtract the lowered ticket price since a more scarce ticket is a more expensive ticket. Add to that the fact that students have a harder time getting to the BOK than they do walking to the Reynolds center and of course the value of home court advantage and whatever effect that had on this being a blowout in TU's favor. Add the value of increased attendance for the rest of the season now that people see that the best basketball ticket in the state is in Tulsa and it's pretty obvious Tulsa comes out way ahead in this deal by not going to the BOK. In fact, I don't know why they'd ever play any game in the BOK with a first class on campus venue.
usc (3 years ago)
Gus,OSU is in a major conference-the Big 12.You seem to have forgotten that fact.
OutPickMyNose (3 years ago)
Dear Gus,

OSU is in the Big 12 and has had plenty of success in football and basketball.

What conference is TU in?

Regards,
Bubba Cunningham
OutPickMyNose (3 years ago)
ktulsafan,

OSU has the leverage in this case, and TU would not be able to ever get an even home and home with any Big 12 school.

That is the way it works for the smaller schools.

I love how you TU fans really believe that OSU is like a Baylor. It is comical.
huricandeoro (3 years ago)
The fact is OutPickMyNose, OSU has done nothing in their football history to be able to demand a two for one from anyone. In fact ESPN rated Tulsa's program ahead of OSU's...go figure. Maybe we should demand a two for one. We sign two for one's with OU for obvious reasons. Their program is at that level, OSU's is not.

The arrogance of OSU fans is hilarious. What exactly does OSU have to be arrogant about again?
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