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The Hooterville Memorandum
Published:
8/25/2008 4:34 PM
Last Modified:
8/25/2008 4:34 PM
Somebody new to the area emailed in this question: Why does a local sports talk radio station give us so many shows from Oklahoma City?
The answer is, who knows.
The problem with Oklahoma City radio is that it loves all things OU to the point of embarrassment.
Certain of the OKC hosts and contributors predict OU to be in the top five nationally of all sports except cricket. If somebody beats OU at anything, that team becomes powerful by association.
Another problem with OU media homers dominating the scene is this is Tulsa.
Here is the coverage Tulsa gets from Oklahoma City: not even the time of day.
There's no denying that OU is the lead story in the state, particularly this football season.
Who could argue if the coverage ran something like this, to start the season with: OU, 60 percent, OSU 20 percent, TU 20 percent.
Coverage patterns should change throughout the season, based on performance.
But about the only times the OKC people mention Tulsa football is as an afterthought.
As though OKC radio people weren't enough, we also get OKC TV people on a regular basis! The two major CBS affiliates in OKC and Tulsa sometimes combine coverage, with the weekly studio originating down the turnpike.
What are we, bumpkins, with a media that needs a lot of help?
The extent of the OU coverage is not the irritant. Who doesn't love a winner, a national source of respect. It is the nature of the coverage that requires an adjustment. The OU homers even seem to have among their ranks a number of OSU media people!
Here is what the hard-core homers fail to realize. Biased coverage runs off neutral observers.
Stay here for much of the truth.
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Gene
(4 years ago)
Mr. Picker, God bless you for being so valid in your comments about OKC's total devotion with all things OU. Why doesn't "fairness in broadcasting" apply here?
+1
(4 years ago)
Great entry picker.
Nit Picker
(4 years ago)
Gene:
If you want 'fairness in broadcasting' call Nancy Pelosi. She is trying to get it passed...again.
Better yet, why don't you and WP get the State to hire Hugo Chavez to be in charge of the OKC media. I hear he has a solution to biased coverage.
World Picker:
You asked: "What are we, bumpkins, with a media that needs a lot of help?"
Yes, obviously. Otherwise Tulsa would have competent sports journalists to cover OU/OSU/TU and OKC would be shut out of the market.
After all, they are only filling a void.
Seems you answered your own question, chump.
Maybe you didn't think this through before you opened your big mouth.
If you are such a neutral observer, full of knowledge and truth, how come the best you can do is an anonymous blog like this?
If you want more OSU coverage, have at it. If you want more TU coverage, have at it.
Or are you just a 'one trick pony', WP?
Arthur
(4 years ago)
Great observations. As I'm sure you know, the talk radio only reflects the attitude of the OU fans. Seems to me that OU fans don't even understand why anyone would be a fan of anything else in this state or why anyone would follow any of those teams that don't play OU in this state.
OU is a great football school, but some of us believe being a fan starts in the classroom and not on the couch. In the minds of those that watch for entertainment purposes, AKA neutral observers, this horrendous bias only diminishes the prestige of the school. As young as I may have been when I chose between the two schools, this bias was a large part of the reason why I did not choose OU. I wanted to attend a school where sports were more like parts of the university and less like a pro event, where people only appear in the area for the game.
Robert
(4 years ago)
Jay, I mean Picker, this is the smartest thing you've written in years. I knew if I kept checking back it would happen. I just knew it!
Thomas
(4 years ago)
Man...that blog post sounds an awful lot like a caller I heard on the afternoon show on the Animal with Coach and Big Al. Do you have original blog ideas, or do you just play thievery and let other people do your dirty thinking...
JDG
(4 years ago)
107th verse same as the first.
Why is OKC radio popular in Tulsa?
Look at the alternative.
Why is the combined TV brodcast doing so well on Sunday?
Look at the alternative.
Why is the school that draws numerous national telecasts and 84k plus per game always on the front page and the lead on the news cast?
Look at the alternative.
If covering the team that can't draw more than 20k in its home city unless OU or OSU comes to town is a lack journalistict credibility, call me when interest doesn't dictate coverage.
If not covering a team as the lead that is never on national tv unless they play OU or can't sell out home games unless Sooner fans purchase tickest a lack of jounalistict credibility, well call me when covering 7-7 seasons versuses 11-3 seasons becomes in vogue.
Common Sense? Interest dictates coverage.
Don't tell me Tulsa cares more about TU than OU or even OSU. Sadly, TU ranks last in its own home city.
Vacation in Tulsa, home of the conference USA champ.
I will be in OKC, enjoying Big 12 championships, BCS Bowls, NBA games, Big 12 B-Ball tournaments, NCAA B-Ball mens and womens regionals, College Softball world series and International Softball Championships.
If the shoe fits Bumpkin?
Gene
(4 years ago)
Mr. JDG, if TU and OSU played "powers" like OU's first opponent, we would have a better record, too. How do you pronounce the name of that team without falling on the floor in total hysteria. Tell Stoops that for competition like that, he need only book Norman High School and save all of that travel expense. If ratings were based on the competition; Zero U is now # 63. I take OU - 35 . . . in every quarter.
BLA
(4 years ago)
OK, JDG. First off, OKC is nothing but a bunch of hick farmers and ranchers. The city just smells funny and that's not throwing barbs...its the downright truth. Second the reason there are so many Sooner fans as opposed to TU fans is TU doesn't let anyone who just fell off a tractor into school there. Also, there is an entire state of Gooners to deal with. The only reason they are fans is because the word on the front of the jersey just so happens to look the same as the one on their license plate...fans by association...too bad if you ask most of them how to spell Oklahoma you get O-? Keep going to your BCS games for the money because you haven't been bringing back any trophies! For that fact, the BCS is a monopoly (that's right like the game)...and it will go down soon enough as soon as a couple of smaller conferences hire a lawyer with enough balls to take it down and the 6 conferences who run it.
SBH
(4 years ago)
I live in OKC and I agree wholeheartedly with what you are saying Picker. The sports animal should be renamed the Bob Stoops and Barry Switzer jock itch show. It is really sad they are going to get to air the hornets games. The most disappointing thing is that those guys opinions are taken quite seriously by a number of people in OKC and around the state.
Picker, you must check out the guys writing for the Lost Ogle. You will love them.
BLA, please add oilmen to your list of things that come out of OKC. Thank you.
jimm
(4 years ago)
I don't live within 100 miles of either city but when it comes to football I buy the Tulsa World because i want to know about all the teams, not just OU. when it comes to big 12 baseball OKc never covers it unless the Sooners are doing good and that's not often so again I read the World, dito for Basketball.
If 84,000 people go to the OU games why is there a need for so much coverage, everyone was there.
noyl
(4 years ago)
TW is very fair/equal/open in coverage to all the major schools in the Okla. area.
Sadly, most people are Lemmings and can’t comprehend or be able to distinguish from Bias journalism & Objective reporting. It’s a conspiracy to dumb-down the public!
Sports radio commentators are considered “insightful, intelligent, perceptive, & discerning” When in actuality, most of these folk’s border on elementary, plain, simple, brainless, dense information that informs no one and only raises their ego status as a Bob Stoops or T. Boone “suck-up” These Lunk-head’s foster unintelligible ideas that are accepted as fact & shouldn’t, ever be questioned.
“Bob Stoops and Barry Switzer jock itch show.” Hilariously true! Thanks SBH, Do the announcers even know how 2 use Crux?
Arthur
(4 years ago)
Thank you for proving my point JDG. Fanhood for most sooner fans began in 2000. Coverage should lend itself to OU in football. That is not the question, but you you don't realize is that it is almost exclusively OU. Instead of being 60% OU and TU and OSU vying for the other coverage time. It's more like 90% OU. By the way, in case you forgot OU is NOT in Oklahoma City. It's in Norman. They are two very different cities for anyone that has ever been there. This distinction might be made easier if OU fans actually set foot on campus for more than just game day, if even that.
JDG
(4 years ago)
Gene,
Three words... Missouri State & Troy.
We always schedule tough. Look, we can't help it Miami sucked last year. I for one am not proud of playing Chatahooi, but we did schedule Cincy, TCU and Washington. Last time I checked, I think both TCU and Cincy went to bowl games and are ranked in the preseason top 30. Washington isn't half bad and is a decent road game.
Hey, we even have Miami, Florida State, LSU, Ohio State and Notre Dame on future schedules.
BLA - Thanks for taking the bait.
"First off, OKC is nothing but a bunch of hick farmers and ranchers. The city just smells funny and that's not throwing barbs...its the downright truth"
Stay classy Tulsa and I hope none of you are a victim of another countless homicide in Tulsa.....
Jdg
(4 years ago)
Arthur,
Proud OU graduate in 2000 and MBA from Tulsa in 2004. Been to every OU home games since 83 but one (2003 Texas AM). Season ticket holder with family since 83 and on my own since 2001.
Given, support dropped during the blake era but we still had over 50K in season ticket holders and on most games got over 60k.
Most who go to the games and are season ticket holders went to OU.
Tbone
(4 years ago)
I guess it is nice for UO to be so popular in the State of Oklahoma with the Radio Folds. Living in Arizona, if it wasn't for the Fiesta Bowl Games UO played in, most people out here (Mainly Californians and Big 10 people) would not even know what UO is. One of the players got memtioned in the paper for pilfering at a store, A guy from New York, noticing I was from Oklahoma, stated, "you sure have a bunch of Toll Roads".
Dash Riprock
(4 years ago)
Being from eastern Oklahoma, and having lived in Edmond for the past 25 years, I can honestly say the ONLY difference in OKC and Tulsa is that the Tulsa and eastern Oklahoma have trees. OKC is afraid of trees. If we had trees in central Oklahoma, how in the world would that daily obnoxious wind blow?
I have been a season ticket holder in Soonerville for over 30 years, and I can only agree that the Sports Animal and both CBS affiliates (the Griffin Empire) are so very OU biased, it's ad nausium. I gotta hand to the Picker on this topic...right on the money.
Jeff
(4 years ago)
JDG hit the nail on the head regarding the Sports Animal programming in Tulsa... LOOK AT THE ALTERNATIVE.
The Sports Buzz is such a deplorable piece of sports talk radio that The Sports Animal looks like Mike & Mike in the Morning by comparision.
I find myself listening to the COMMERCIALS on the Sports Animal, rather than listening to that train wreck that is the 1430 show during the afternoon.
The Sports Animal guys might spend 80% of their time worshiping at the feet of Lord Stoops, but at least it's not a constant parade of sophomoric humor (Plank), talking about how everything sucks (Poplin) or MMA (both).
Nit Picker
(4 years ago)
Have any of you World Picker homers asked yourselves why there is so much more media coverage of OU sports in Tulsa than there is coverage of OSU and TU?
Especially in light of the fact that it is a business.
Here is what you lightweights are saying: Since there is more coverage of OU, the media is biased, and that bias is why there is more coverage of OU.
This is an example of the "World Picker Logic Void." It is sort of a black hole of stupidity.
You must be very careful, it tends to attract an extremely ignorant element of society.
Arthur: are you seriously telling us you chose a university because it was not very successful at sports and no one reported it? Or that you eschewed OU because it was successful at sports and everyone reported it?
A neutral observer thinks things through before he makes a statement he can't back up.
Seems World Picker has failed, once again, to think things through before opening his big mouth.
All sizzle, no beef...again.
Chris
(4 years ago)
Nit,
Too answer your previous post on the last blog. It will be 3 losses. Do you think KU will win more then 9 games? They will lose to OU and Tech, and either UT or S. Florida.
I wasn't sure if you thought KU would win more or lose more then that.
Chris
(4 years ago)
Nit Picker's opinion on this has no bearing, since he may be the biggest OU homer. Even more then Al. And that is saying something.
What do you think of that, sport? By the way, being ranked 14th is pretty high for a 3 loss team. Sport.
World Picker
(4 years ago)
Without getting overly sappy, I love you guys this week.
All of course except Pit Nicker.
But I think we all realize the civility will be short-lived.
The problem with being such homers is it's always the same -- Dean and Al and Stump and Bump and Lump and Hump have been making the same OU love for years. You can go away nine months and come back and it's like a soap, like you were never gone.
But with nuts like you people, it's always exciting.
MIKE
(4 years ago)
Hey JDG, since you seem to be incredibly smart AND football savvy, perhaps you can enlighten us as to which college teams you are refering to that have ever had 7-7 or 11-3 records (besides the teams that play Hawaii, of course)? Come on now, Mr. "I've been going to OU football games since 1772."
108th verse, same as first.
Why get football facts from anyone besides an OU fan?
Look at the alternative (schooling that is).
JDG
(4 years ago)
Mike,
Much apologies. I don't want to short change OSU. They went 7-6 last year. Same as 2006.
11-3? Are you kidding? That was OU's record the last two years.
On a side note. Go visit Espn site and you will see that 7 of 12 analysts predict OU to play in the mythical NC and 4 of them have OU winning it.
Guess the hype isn't just limited to OKC.
World Picker
(4 years ago)
Isn't OU almost always overrated?
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