Who cares? If you a decrying the purity of the professional game, you are wasting your time. Professional sports is for entertainment. If you to watch a pure game, go watch little league. We want to jacks and people push themselves to the edge of the envelope.

I am suprised more people haven't pushed for legalized. We should legalize steroid use as long as it is doctor monitored. Instead you have a bunch of fat tushed, washed up journalists jealous of people like Jason Giambi and misleading the public with their BS stories about how steroid use is always bad.

My first recollection of growth hormone use was watching ABC's Wide World Of Sports and looking at the East German WOMEN in the track and field competition of the World Championships in the 60s. They looked like men, walked like men, and TALKED like men. These substances have been around for a long time. Competition is so skewed now that the we're all about winning, we could care less about tomorrow, how what we took to 'beat' our challengers is an afterthought. Taking HGH is polluting your body in the same way that street drugs do. Steroids are for mending and healing, not bulking. In our society, we choose to ignore moral values just so we can feel superior to our competition, never mind what we're going to do to ourselves in the process.

Drugs are a permanent stable of American culture. We spend hundreds of billions of dollars on drug medications. Drug usage is as common as apple pie. Drug usage was once taboo, it is now an acceptable culture norm. We medicate ourselves over numerous alignments and disabilities. Drug usage will not go away, in fact it’ll only increase.

If you just look @ the high schools in Oklahoma, think how many schools actually test their student athletes for ‘Roids & illegal drug use. I guarantee you it is a very small %. And many Athletic Directors especially @ the more rural school districts, know that illegal drug usage & steroids are common place. If they tested, many schools wouldn’t even be able to field a team.

The reality of the situation is this: Fans don’t care if the players do steroids, HGH, or other muscular “enhancements.” There’s still a distaste for players opting for illegal drugs, but overall fans want their teams to be winners & if that means some of the players are taking performance enhancing drugs, so be it.

The pressure to win, the drive to succeed, & the desire to better one’s performance on the field will continue to be the motivating factor for the next generation of athletes. If that includes finding an “edge” by using performance enhancing substance, they will do just that!

Remember the pharmacist & chemist will continue to look for ways to make these “strengthening” drugs undetectable by testing agencies. Once a drug has been detected, they’ll find other avenues to thwart the results.

It’s the ‘ol adage, “If you can get away doing something illegal that betters’ your situation, your going to do it.”

The sub-story, which is probably more interesting than the juiced-up angle, is that people could care less. Thus the attendance stats. They love the team, the history, the city, not so much the junkies.

SBH, I see your point. But taking muscle milk is alot different (and legal). Steroids can increase growth at a much higher and faster rate, with more health risks. Should I list those?

But, I can see your point. Sorry I called you a moron earlier, but I still am saddened by baseball and it's management that let it get out of hand. I don't watch baseball, and don't really plan to, anymore. That is all I did when I was growing up.

It is just sad what professional baseball has become. It's a joke in my mind. Picker, you are right, people just don't care.

For true statistic type baseball fans we will never know how much steriods enhanced the records.

When Bonds was first suspected of using I liked what Tommy Lasorda said, "I wonder how many Barry homeruns would have landed on the warning path."

Picker,

I sat next to a scout from the Detroit Tigers on a flight from LA to Dallas back in 1992. He lived in Seattle and his territory was the NW. During the course of our conversation he stated that 40% of baseball players in the majors were juicing. He mentioned one well known player that was on the ’86 Mets championship team that called them his “vitamins”. He told me that these guys would only use during the season and that they had doctor’s monitoring their blood to guard against liver damage.

He said many players were able to extend their careers by using steroids. Guys that were hitting to the warning track were now hitting it out of the park. He also pointed out how much weight McGuire gained from the time he entered the minors to his rookie season. He said that it would be impossible to add that much muscle mass in that time period without the use of steroids.

The real scandal is how Major League Baseball acts as if it had no idea this was going on. Just as Captain Renault assertion that was shocked to find that gambling was going on in Rick’s Café, MLB’s denial of any knowledge seems disingenuous. The commissioner’s office turned a blind eye and Major League Baseball profited handsomely. Someone needs to take a look at that and stop thowing players under the bus who were basically given the green light to use steroids if they so choosed.

Big Brown takes steroids. Is he a 'junkie'?

Look guys have been taking performance enhancing substances since WWII. Amphetamines certainly speed the synaptic connectiosn and Ted, Mickey and Hank have all been said to have used them. The one thing that many fans have just got tired of hearing is how Barry bonds was the only person juicing. I've met Bonds at the grapefruit league. He was fantastic with me and talked hitting for close to an hour. The media is who he does not like or trust. Bobby Bonds & Willie Mays and even Ted Williams have said nothing good comes from cspeaking to the media. Ted Williams hated the media. I played in the late sixties and early seventies. Guys were taking dianabol then. They just did not have the personal trainers and workout facilites on the road. Players were afraid of injuring themselves while lifting. IMO most knowledgeable fans suspect A-Rod of juicing. Albert Pujols, Juan Rodriguez, Pudge Rodriguez, Giambi, Clemens, Garvey, many of the players who deny it. Mike Schmidt was always a suspect, along with players who positively juiced in the seventies such as Fred Lynn. I wish all players were natural and all horses ran on hay and oats. However, when other players are getting the SI Players of the Year, MVP Awards, the HUGE PAYDAYS, who can blame them for wanting a pece of the pie. Barry Bonds watched McGuire and Sosa get all of the accolades and huge paychecks with half the talent. The years Bonds had, I don't know if the guy who is allergic to krptonite could have put together the year he did!