I agree about the USC scandal...but this wouldn't be the first time a national power has been let off the hook because of the money they bring in (OU, I'm looking in your direction).

But the student athlete does NOT need to be paid. In fact, he/she is ALREADY being paid. Free room and board, free meals, free travel, free apparel, and most importantly, free recognition for whatever they choose to do after college.

I know several ex-athletes that have AMAZING jobs simply because they were on OSU's final four team or a third stringer on the OU national championship team.

In my opinion, that's payment enough.

Mr. Picker, who is forbidding young people from making a living playing basketball? If this question causes you hesitation, call your friend LeBron. He will help you.

Picker, is that an NCAA rule that actually means something and is enforced?

WDIK: Yeah, it's a rule. The rule is a player can no longer go from high school to the NBA; and a player has to be 19 years of age as well.

So it's two rules.

It's why that high school kid went to Spain to play for bread, instead of some college.

Football does it as well, restricts a person's right to earn a living for a longer period of time, even.

The NCAA encourages cheating, etc. Why even wake up for one year on campus!

To sue the NCAA, some kid would probably have to give up his career, as it would ring around the courts forever.

But the NCAA should be ashamed, as it says: Go to school one year, play around, have a nice time, then bail.

Gene: The one couldn't outrun you.

I think Peterson test driving a Lexus for a couple of months is a good example of the gooners getting away with a violation. But hey, I guess everyone test drives vehicles that amount of time....

"Besides, I wager an OSU or Texas homer writes a letter a week to the NCAA about OU "cheating".

Oh tattoo, how did I know you were going to throw something like that in your post.

I was kinda following you until that bombshell.

But, I am sure your right. UT and OSU are always writing to the NCAA about OU. It makes perfect sense.

tattoo= computer tough guy...LOL

I mean take a 4-all.

Tattoo, OU was slapped on the wrist for having at least two student athletes being paid for work not done. Their wins that year were stricken from the record books....for about 6 months and then reinstated (although I thought that was beat-around-the-bush worthless punishment in the first place). Their schollies were limited the next year but all that meant was that they lifted schollies from other players who never set foot on the field to free up more.

OU is a huge power in the NCAA football world. It doesn't matter how big the OKC metroplex is. The fact is that over 80,000 people buy season tickets every year and all of them (and more) buy tons of OU apparel for themselves and their families that the NCAA gets a piece of. OU fans also travel very well to bowl games and the NCAA counts on that for even more revenue.

The point is while the penalty should have been harsher (and likely would have been if the school would have been T-Tech, Mizzou, etc.), the NCAA didn't want to bite the hand that feeds it and proved that OU is on the list of elite schools that are untouchable.

Tattoo,

Many OSU fans do have a hatred for all things OU, and vice versa with OU fans and OSU.

I realize that people will attack them and bring up NCAA violations and such.

But your silly post about Chris Collins is just that, silly.

If you want to bring up something that happened in the past, why not just talk about the OU players who raped girls in the dorms during the good ol' Switzer days?

Oh, thats right, because it is irrelevent now. OSU and OU will have problem kids. For OSU, people like Prentice Elliott, Collins, etc. For OU, Dusty D, Bomar, etc.

It is not like both schools don't have problem players. Many programs do.

So, to those OSU fans who want to attack an OU player remember we have had our share of issues.

And to tattoo, any player you want to bring up about OSU, there is probably a player(s) from OU that had a similar issue.

And in my opinion, OU did get lucky with the NCAA a couple of years ago. Mainly because it wasn't just football, but basketball, gymnastics (who cheats in that?), etc. They did get lucky, and lost very minimal scholarships. What was it, 3 for football?

And the NCAA is a silly organization.

Thats all. Carry on.....

Tattoo,

For some reason, my last post wouldn't stick. The link wouldn't work.

I don't think I can put a link to the story on here, but why don't you type in "Oklahoma Sooners Switzer NY Times Rape" on google. See what you come up with.

3 players were named in a reported rape on campus.

Sorry to point this out to you, but sometimes it needs to happen when someone like yourself seems to be a "know it all". Everything that basically could have been a nightmare for any NCAA program happened to OU then. Talking smack is silly for either school, though. We all have our problems.

I have no problem dishing it and taking it. But, in reality I try not to do either. See above post for more clarity. Since I know you just focused on one sentence and acted like you read the whole post.

No Tattoo, I collected an Exacta payoff on my Dunkirk bet of $121; and did you see the poor thing broke a cannon bone during the race! Otherwise he would have won by 15!

Tattoo, first I love how you try to put the blame on any OSU fan for not being objective but then turn around and use terms like "Stoolwater." Oh yeah, very obective, hypocrite (notice, there is an "E" in the spelling).

Also, if you think the NCAA doesn't get a piece of the pie in ANY college revenue, then it is you who is living in a fantasy world.

Finally, no, the punishment was NOT severe enough on OU for the players who were caught being paid for work not done. The self-imposed consequences did not affect a single OU accomplishment since they were put into place. OU has won at least 2 Big 12 championships since then and has played in BCS bowls every single year as well, including a national championship.

How is that a punishment? The last I checked, consequences for mistakes are supposed to lead to sacrifices by said party. The only thing OU sacrificed were a limited amount of scholarships that didn't affect their records at all. The NCAA let them off the hook, plain and simple, because they are a national power in college football.