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They Are Penn State
Published:
7/24/2012 2:51 PM
Last Modified:
7/24/2012 3:26 PM
What should have been done with Penn State?
That turned out to be a tougher question than was first imagined.
It's a given that in any NCAA penalty, some of the innocent are punished. Football is a team sport. Teams must police themselves. You don't think a team knows who the druggies are? Who is getting paid? Who is using text books for a pillow? Coaches are responsible for teams. Coaches are accountable for teams. Teams are personifications of a coach.
Team members must be proactive when it comes to right and wrong.
As long as innocents new to the scene are given the right to transfer without penalty, the system is fine in that regard.
Now, as to criminal violations: If a coach robbed a bank, would his team be put on probation? If a coach killed somebody, would his team be put on probation? Crimes against children are the worst. Is that the automatic jumping off point -- that all crimes against children equal probation?
Or are the crimes of coaches a matter for the law, not the football field?
Many like former OU coach Barry Switzer have jumped all over the NCAA for over-stepping its authority. Switzer knows all about NCAA penalties. He was fired for breaking the rules.
Here is the key to any NCAA punishment: competitive edge.
So here is the question that applies the most: Did Paterno's cover-up of the sex abuse against children give Penn State a competitive edge on the football field?
The answer is yes, absolutely it did. Had Paterno and his staff been caught harboring child abuse, it would have been penalized by the NCAA long ago. So the cover-ups, plural, enabled the team to keep playing and raking in money and glory.
Covering up child abuse kept Penn State football running strong.
Cover-ups are nasty business. Remember Nixon? It got a president fired and almost brought a country down.
So Switzer and the like need to play some bingo and hit the sandbox with the great grandkids and leave this issue to those in the business.
Covering up child abuse is an offense deserving of at least four years in solitary confinement.
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mgsooner13
(7 months ago)
You absolutely knocked it out of the park with your competitive edge argument. 100% truth.
C.R. Delough
(7 months ago)
Mr. The Picker has it right on target.
Blue Max
(7 months ago)
Actually, Nixon resigned.
The Picker
(7 months ago)
Actually Nixon was given ten minutes to get out of town.
JTW
(7 months ago)
No, actually Nixon resigned. He did so to avoid impeachment which may, or may not have gone his way.
206462
(7 months ago)
may want to check your spelling - accountable, maybe?
Thunder196
(7 months ago)
"If a coach robbed a bank, would his team be put on probation?"
Not unless he took the team with him but the fact of the matter is the abuse to children happened on Penn State Property.
No doubt the rumors about child abuse also traveled among football players. So in this case there were probably football players who knew, so if that is the case, they also helped to bring down the football team by remaining silent.
We would probably be shocked beyond belief if we really knew how many people knew about Sandusky and did nothing.
colhi64
(7 months ago)
Not sure I totally agree, but its a better argument than I have.
Cardinalsfan
(7 months ago)
Finally a sports writer with a clue on this. Of course it was an advantage to cover it up. Amazing how many sports writers and casters can miss so obvious a point.
241362
(7 months ago)
Covering it up was worth untold fortunes, it's why they did it.
Barney Doyle
(7 months ago)
Excellent column. Great advice to Switzer. Thumbs up for The Picker.
soonerk
(7 months ago)
I find holes in Picker's argument. But of course, Picker can't be wrong...right? Not the self-righteous Picker.
"Or are the crimes of coaches a matter for the law, not the football field?" Crimes are a matter of law...these were committed by an individual. They didn't break NCAA rules. Sure, we all agree that moral judgment was not exercised in the right way, but there wasn't all these people coming forward until recently.
"Many like former OU coach Barry Switzer have jumped all over the NCAA for over-stepping its authority. Switzer knows all about NCAA penalties. He was fired for breaking the rules" He WAS NOT fired....he resigned. Check your facts. (oh yeah, you're not into facts...you're into rampant speculation and reporting rumors....like most media)
Not enough space to argue every point. But I still say that if Sandusky was not a coach, then the program was not breaking NCAA rules...they were just in a bad situation/light being associated with him. Sandusky broke the law....big time. Not PSU and certainly not the players. Wins should not have been vacated, except for the fact that NCAA wants to show its muscle and perhaps send a message.
PrayingHam
(7 months ago)
So, in your world, child rape does not break NCAA rules?
Go back to that 12 year old in your basement and leave stupid comments to Barry Switzer.
soonerk
(7 months ago)
OMG, PrayingHam...are you that dense? That's not what I am saying nor is Switzer or anyone else. Child rape is not a violation of a law or rule created by the NCAA....it is a violation of the law of our universe. If a coach commits a crime, the law and courts of our nation handles that. He would lose his job.....but would you really think its right for the university to also be punished by the NCAA for the undeniable, horrific acts of this individual?
And your ending comment is just what you said....stupid comment.
OU68
(7 months ago)
Gotta disagree soonerk - they covered it up to protect the football program. Does it suck that kids at PSU today are getting screwed because of it, sure, but the bottom line is still the fact that it was all about the football program - which is the NCAA's purview.
Boulevard
(7 months ago)
Perhaps you should spend your time trying to comprehend what the NCAA did--and why the university accepted it and declined to appeal--instead of writing posts, soonerk.
If you did, you would be surprised to find that PSU was not punished for what Sandusky did. It is strange you don't understand that.
The sanctions were applied because Paterno and his gang, all being paid by the university, allowed Sandusky to continue to rape children--on university propery, right down the hall from Joe--for 14 years in order to protect the football program.
The officers of the university did control it because they were part of it, the very essence of "lack of institutional control." One of the most common reasons why programs are penalized by the NCAA.
Why did they do it? To "gain a competitive advantage." A reason cited in 99% of all NCAA sanctions.
Of course, if you really believe that Barry just up and resigned and the fact he had been told he would be fired if he did not resign had nothing to do with it, then you are not likely to comprehend what is going on in this case.
fumby
(7 months ago)
soonerk - 2 things...1) stick to your guns and 2) I know ill get blasted for this but I'm in your corner. what happened to those kids is inconceivable and should have been reported long before it was. but with that being said i agree with everything Switzer said. it does not mean i love Sandusky or approve of how Paterno handled things, its just that i have a right to my opinion as does everyone else. like others i just wish that the players did not have to be punished and that there was another way around the punishment for another mans sins and crimes against those kids.
soonerk
(7 months ago)
Thanks Fumby! I am not swayed by the differences of opinions. I could say the same to each of you who posted in with negative comments. You "think" you know it all, but you and I know very little...only what we have read. This was a crime that was handled in the courts. While we're at it, if a player or coach is convicted of a crime, let's get the NCAA to add more penalties to the university...even though they crimes were not related to the sports....yeah that makes a lot of sense.
BTW....I believe I read where PSU Board of Trustees will be meeting about "possible appeals"...that the person who spoke and said PSU would not appeal had no authority to do so alone.
J.R., Dallas
(7 months ago)
Ol' Barry just reinforced what Ron White says about "fixing stupid". He should be the last to opine on the NCAA.
DomoArrigato
(7 months ago)
Penn State should humbly accept their punishment, and look ahead 10 years when they might be competive in football again.
Fred Savage
(7 months ago)
The argument that "innocent people" will be hurt by these sanctions is silly.
In EVERY position where a person in a leadership position makes a horrible mistake, innocent people are hurt. That's life.
If a general tells his troops to "take that hill" and the enemy is waiting on the other side, INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE HURT.
When a few idiots at BP tried to save a few bucks, INNOCENT PEOPLE that lived in Louisiana were hurt. (not to mention BP shareholders)
When Aubrey McClendon decides to not take out any hedge positions against a Natural Gas drop and the price plumments....INNOCENT PEOPLE are hurt.
There is ALWAYS residual damage when people in authority make a mistake. That's life.
The purpose of the sanctions are less about punishing the school and more about deterring other schools from covering up their own improprieties.
Incarcerating a murderer (or giving them death sentence) doesn't bring his victim back to life. It's the threat of life long incarceration or the thought of living the rest of your life in prison that serves as deterrent to others that may act similarly.
We have to have strong punishments to deter others from acting similarly. That's the best way to protect "the innocent"
Blue Max
(7 months ago)
Deterrence is EXACTLY the reason for the type of penalty given. Be assured every college president will be developing a system for reporting such behavior because of the sentence given Penn State.
241362
(7 months ago)
Fred makes great points.
If a cover-up can almost bring down a country, a four-year probation for covering up child abuse to make more money is peanuts.
the moon shall rise again
(7 months ago)
The students and football players at pedophile state are not the victims.
They still get to play football at pedophile state.
They can transfer and not play at pedophile state.
Football is a privilege not a right.
241362
(7 months ago)
There are two issues here.
1. The criminal issue of child abuse.
2. The NCAA issue of covering up child abuse for university profit and glory.
People like Switzer and Bayless and other media mouths -- poor Penn State -- are clueless.
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