Bill

Nice post on the indoor facility, and it's too bad that Boone made OSU keep the money in his hedge fund or we would have the facility now.

I disagree on your TU analysis. OSU does not NEED TU on the schedule. TU needs OSU to add some credibility to their. That being said, I would rather see TU play OSU instead of the sisters of the weak that Holder brings in to pad Gumbys W-L record. TU should not expect anything less than a 2 or 1 exchange.

Mr. Haisten, I agree with you on both points. For OSU, TU is a money-maker. More OSU alumni live in Tulsa than any other city, so it makes sense. However, I wouldn't want to see the Cowboys and Hurricane play every year. Maybe they should play each other seven of every ten years or something. Sometimes, a break can be a good thing, too - you know, to keep it from getting stale.

BLA, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. TU's offense is nowhere near the caliber of Houston's last year.

OSU is a middle of the pack Big 12 team? Is that why they finished 2nd in the south last year and beat every north opponent they faced? Try again.

OSU has also been bringing in top 25 recruiting classes that last few years and their 2011 class is ranked 12th in the nation. Yet that talent would only have them doing well in C-USA? Try again.

TU is close to OSU athletically?? That's a joke, right? It better be because it's probably the most comical statement you've made thus far. OSU has back-to-back 9 win seasons while playing in the Big 12 South. TU can barely muster a .500 record in C-USA. We're all done here.

TU is going to thump OSU in Stillwater.

The TU/OSU game #s are skewed because the series has not taken place since OSU's increased ticket sales in the newly renovated stadium.

Haisten, you know this and should have made the point as to not sound like a TU apologist.

I have no doubt the TU game would average a higher numbers, but the reward is minimal when compared to scheduling a series against Rice, Houston, SMU or North Texas when you get to play every few years in fertile recruiting areas.

You media guys cannot turn what is really a "nice thing for OSU to do" into a "necessity" argument just because you want it to happen.

There is no argument where this immensely benefits OSU's program over other non conf games they've scheduled in recent years.

It's almost embarrassing that you keep bringing it up.

I never thought a 1 for 1 with TU was a fair deal for OSU. I also never thought a 2 for 1 was fair for TU. But the basketball series, coupled with the football series, I believe, is fair. It gives OSU a little more leverage in the deal, which because of the numbers they bring to the table, is fair.

But do not sit here and try to convince anyone that this is something OSU needs. TU needs it and you guys think you are a band of creative wordsmiths who think they’ve created a great debate when you are pandering to the TU fans who want it, and the OU fans who’ll jump on any anti-OSU bandwagon they can.

Way to go out on a limb, guys. You all are regular Woodward & Bernsetins.

If TU pulls or Troy or even beats OSU this week, which I believe may very well happen, there is even MORE reason as to why OSU does not NEED the TU game and why TU does… but we all see for who you would rather argue.

A rational person can see through that.

TU doesn't "need" a series with OSU. Most FBS teams play other area teams, no matter which conference they are from.

WSU plays Idaho each year (right across the border). Utah St plays Utah every year. Those teams are in different conferences.

It is a game and it is supposed to be fun. It is interesting to see two local teams play each other, even if one is far outmatched (e.g. OSU is 17-80 all time against OU, being outscored by an average of 28-10).

OSU fan here. I would never look down on TU. I think scheduling them is little more than a dangerous proposition for OkState. TU has won nearly an equal number of games in the series plus, there is NO television money. The game will likely sell out, but the net effect for OkState is almost nothing beyond one-game ticket sales. True, it MAY incentivize season ticket sales (debatable) but another, higher profile OOC team would be MUCH more beneficial to OSU. (1)Ticket sales could be boosted, (2)television broadcast could be more viable and (3) a potential loss might not be so devastating.

OU/TU have a much more mutually beneficial relationship than OSU/TU. Basketball is a different argument but football is very close to a lose/lose for OkState.