Thanks Jay.

I respect your handicapping in the OU TX series.

Thanks for not tickling the palettes of the OU-haters by taking a cheap shot at us like calling our coach 'Medium Game Bob'.

I don't blame Venables for any of the losses, however I do see a lack of tackling fundamentals in the D backfield.

Your opinion of Poor Mack is right on the dollar. He's a good guy, great recruiter, but not a showtime coach. He couldn't win championships at North Carolina and he can't win them in Austin. Anyone who watched Texas' Rose Bowl victory realizes that coaching didn't win the game for the Longhorns...Vince Young's pure athletic skills did. And, to set the record straight, if WCO doesnt' blame Venables for the sorry condition of the Oklahoma defense, he hasn't watched Oklahoma closely. Most insiders, although they will not publicly admit it, do blame him. The problems have been too consistent for too long to place blame elsewhere.

Nice attempt, Jeff. But just like a Colt McCoy pass, it falls short. Fact is, in the Stoops era, Brown has done nothing outside of VY's athletic talent. Want to give Mack credit for recruiting Young? Go ahead. They can print it at the top of Brown's obituary.

Jeff...you need work on your reading comprehension. Heupel led the Sooners to the 2000 National Title game...he didn't win it for them. The Sooners allowed a high-scoring Seminole team only 3 points...that had nothing to do with Heupel. Heupel was playing that game (and, essentially, all of November) with a swollen elbow in his throwing arm which severely limited his effectiveness; Vince Young WAS the Longhorn offense. While winning the National Title game against USC, Young overcame the 38 points allowed by his own defense. I mean, did you see the game? And you can try to defend the point that Mack is a 'winner' if you'd like, but it will only make you appear ignorant. Check your facts before you make an ass of yourself. Now, pass the remote.

footwear -

Maybe you need to work on your own reading comprehension and/or analytical skills before calling me names.

I'm fully aware of what happened in both the 2000 national title game and the Texas-USC title game.

The POINT is that had it not been for Josh Heupel, OU wouldn't have even been PLAYING for the national title that year. They would have lost 3, maybe 4 games in the regular season.

And AGAIN - why does a given coach not get credit for RECRUITING great players?

I can assure you that Lord Stoops would not be winning Big 12 titles if he were coaching Baylor's players. But somehow he gets CREDIT for bringing in great players where as Mack doesn't? That's brillant.

Here's the point -- and I'll spell it out very deliberatly so that you can understand:

You're giving Mack grief for winning 1 title with one player/group of players.

Stoops has 1 title with one player/group of players. Outside of that, he's basically won a few Big 12 titles and then gone on to get blown away in BCS bowls.

So maybe you're the one who should work on putting together a coherant thought instead of letting your hatred of Texas cloud your brain.

Footware -

Since you're clearly incapable of understanding abstract concepts, such as comparisons and relativity, I'll just stop right here.

You're clearly of the lowest common denomenator mentality of "Lord Stoops/OU = good; everything else = bad", so I can see how you would not understand my posts.

Best of luck with that.

Hey PMS, Oklahoma has always had the same reserve of talent that Texas has had...it's called Texas. Where have you been? Wilkinson raided north Texas (Jimmy Harris, Hog Harrison, Jerry Tubbs, Jakie Sandefer), Switzer made his rep off of imports and Stoops hasn't done badly either. Oh, and Jeff, take a hike, you moron.

You can say one thing about Mack: He certainly doesn't embarrass the Big XII in BCS games when he plays in them. And at last count they have won an equal amount of BCS games. Mack 2-0; Stoops 2-4.

You can say one thing about Mack: He certainly doesn't embarrass the Big XII in BCS games when he plays in them. And at last count they have won an equal amount of BCS games. Mack 2-0; Stoops 2-4.