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Where is everyone?
Published: 10/3/2006 8:43 PM
Last Modified: 10/3/2006 8:43 PM

I wonder if Tulsa -- the city, not the university -- appreciates Division I-A football.

TU played a Tuesday night home game against Southern Miss and drew just over 20,000 fans.

What else is there to do on a Tuesday night? The Sooners weren't playing. The Cowboys weren't playing. If this is a football-crazy state, then why wasn't the stadium more heavily populated?

A crowd of 20,000 isn't horrible, but it also isn't great. TU coach Steve Kragthorpe has put a winning product on the field and it would seem that more people would be willing to jump on the bandwagon.

Granted, TU is a small, private school with a small alumni base. But the failure of Tulsans to turn out in bigger numbers is a bit puzzling.




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TAB (6 years ago)
Very good post.

Tulsa is a working class town. People work hard and might be more interested in sitting in a chair on Tuesday night and flipping channels. Some kids have football and cheerleading practice. Some folks go to church. And of course, there is the Fair.

That said, a football game, particularly one as entertaining as this one, with Paul Smith and Kragthorpe's fun style, really beats the heck out of most of those options. TU needs to update the facilities -- the bathrooms need work and the stadium is kind of drab -- but it's no worse than a lot of stuff at the Tulsa State Fair. TU has made a great effort with the football program and the pregame festivities. 11th Street is a lot of fun before the games.

Not to mention the fact that some of the people complaining about a Tuesday night game are the same folks who have no problem going to a Monday night basketball game in January...

Come on out folks!
Bill Babb (6 years ago)
I'm also disappointed with the turnout for an outstanding TU team facing a storied program such as Southern Miss.

The reasons for not attending are, of course, numerous and varied. The bottom line is that, thus far, TU has not tripped the trigger of the vast numbers of OU and OSU fans who live in the Tulsa area.

When TU needs to rely primarily on alumni and nominal fans for attendance, it is rather self-limiting as to crowd size.

State Fair, too-hot and too-cold, mid-terms, parking, non-BCS bias, school night, television coverage, children's activities and "Skelly sucks" all have proponents, and all are at least marginally legit.

TU needs to just work a bit harder to establish itself as "Tulsa's Team" as it was once considered. As with anything else, once lost, that designation is harder to regain ... but regain it TU must.

As a very wise man once said, "If they don't want to come to the ballpark, you can't stop them!"

TU just needs to find a way to "stop them" from staying home.
RR (6 years ago)
Good stuff Jimmie! However, I would say that many TU crowds are made up of families with young children. With this being a school night, if you are not a "die hard" TU fan it might have been easy to decide to get the kids in bed early and watch the game on ESPN. Not the choice I would make, but can certainly understanding not wanting your young kids getting a poor night's rest before a school day. That being said, you would think that there are 30,000 adult college football fans in the city that could have come out. It's not like this is Ittawamba Junior College vs. Coffeyville...This is legitimate Top 25 caliber college football. Oh by the way, people need to stop playing Gordon Reise by saying that ball was not tipped in the 4th quarter last night. Look at the video, Kedrick Alexander (#2) clearly and conclusively tipped that ball before pass interference was called. Your collegue Mr. Klein wrote that it was "far from conclusive" and if he really thinks that he may need to go see Dr. Z for an eye exam. I cannot figure out why people are saying that's inconclusive, they either didn't see the replay or they can't see, because it's plain as day that it was tipped.
Jimmie Tramel (6 years ago)
I didn't see if Kedrick tipped the ball, but the linebacker -- please don't make me spell his name without aid of a roster -- told defensive coordinator Keith Patterson that he tipped the ball at the line of scrimmage.
Allen Russell (6 years ago)
At least TU graduates athletes- the same can't bee said for OU or OSU!
I remember when the OU basketball team had a ZERO graduation rate, and former OSU player Dexter Manley couldn't even read or write! Yes fans need to support TU football better, but at least it is a school where getting an education is JOB ONE! Wonder how many fans would have showed up if OSU played on Tuesday night at home while the game was televised on ESPN?
Dan Jensen (6 years ago)
Why don't more Tulsans turn out for Oral Roberts baseball? It has been a strong program for years and yet draws poorly.
RR (6 years ago)
Huh? I thought we were talking about TU football. By the way, college baseball is poorly attended in most places (except for special events like OU-OSU in Tulsa or something like that). ORU does have a great baseball program, but unfortunately college baseball is simply not a huge draw from night to night.
Jeremy (6 years ago)
I think people need to come to terms with the fact that TU is never gonna draw big crowds for their football games. I agree that a national telecast against a recognizable foe should have brought out more fans, but Tuesday night is not gonna bring out as many people as say a Friday night.

True, the state fair is going on, but I don't think that had a major impact. The city of Tulsa has made it clear that TU football is not seen as a "must see" event. I'm sure some of you think that since this game was a national telecast, it should have been attended by a lot more people. The flip side of that is realizing that TU doesn't even play on TV very often, so getting to watch them on ESPN is an "event"

All this being said, Kragthorpe has done an outstanding job. The starting QB played high school football in Owasso, and I'm sure that many other players have very local ties as well. If local kids and a good team with an excellent coach won't fill the stands, it ain't gonna happen. It's like the Florida Marlins. Two World Series Championships, and they still can't get people to come see them.

Ed (6 years ago)
Tulsans will get another chance in a few weeks. TU hosts UTEP for another nationally televised game on Friday, October 27 at 7:00pm. I'm sure the excuse then will be that Friday night is for high school football, which of course has some merit. But getting a crowd of 30,000 on a Friday night shouldn't be impossible. We'll see.
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