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Who Is Responsible for OU Rules Violations?
Published:
5/20/2010 2:49 PM
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5/20/2010 2:49 PM
The Tulsa Shock WNBA team sold out another game.
They roped off all but the first four rows.
As to the OU rules violation responsibility, this is a very good question.
The quarterback and those other players getting paid for not doing work. OK. A slip-up. Won't happen again.
Basketball coach Sampson breaks rules, gets tossed, banned from college coaching a while. Not good. Very bad, in fact. Better NOT happen again.
Now, allegations about a hoop coach making allegedly fishy calls to a stock broker with regards to a Sooner player or two.
How on earth, after Sampson's phone trouble, could EVERY CALL FROM EVERY COACH IN EVERY SPORT not be studied...BY SOMEBODY?
Who at a university is responsible when rules are broken in difference sports?
The compliance department?
Who hired the compliance department?
Who checks compliance for compliance?
The athletic director?
The university president?
Campus police?
Just wondering.
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But What Do I Know?
(3 years ago)
They need to steal one of those guys from the other schools that knows how to get away with these things. (Oops, steal is probably not a good word here.)
The Picker
(3 years ago)
Listen, if you are on probation, particularly for phone cheating, then you absolutely 100 percent need to monitor every single call by a coach that is not of an obvious personal nature.
Being monitored for alleged fishy business is a small price you pay for earning a fat check.
Grown men are exempt from strict supervision?
Maybe grown physically.
Somebody is responsible.
MexiMike
(3 years ago)
Monitoring phone calls is difficult but still can be done to an extent. Who do you think pays those cell phone bills? It isn't the coaches. And even if you can't monitor them, the responsibility still lies with school for bringing in coaches and players with this type of character.
Like the Picker said, this is not the first time this has happened in multiple sports in the last 10 years at OU. Heck, OU is still on probation and these events still took place.
That is the casebook definition of lack of institutional control and the NCAA needs to step up and serve the entire athletic program sanctions...not just the basketball program.
Will it happen, though? I doubt it.
Dash Riprock
(3 years ago)
OU goes off of probation Sunday, just in time for another investigation. When do we stop being so above the job that we can't have someone monitoring the monitors, so to speak? I thought the administration was supposed to have those guidelines in place. Obviously going through the motions has brought another loophole that may cost Soonerland real damage.
dcood
(3 years ago)
Capel is a joke and has, in 4 seasons, transformed a really good basketball program with great tradition into a juco infiltrated disgrace. They will be lucky to win 12 games next year and he will get canned because no butts in the seats = no money= FIRED.
Sooner transplant
(3 years ago)
I thought The Picker was reponsible to monitor.
Seriously, these are different people and different circumstances. I hope the NCAA doesn't punish the university for the covert actions of a couple of individuals. Too often the wrong party feels the consequences.
senor notas
(3 years ago)
I think people take you too seriously. The first two sentences made me laugh out loud. According to the recent 'settlement' if you have been in your job for 15 years you will have to step aside and give someone else a chance to be the PICKER. GUFFAW!!!
The Picker
(3 years ago)
Is the OU athletic director getting a free pass from the media on all this stuff?
bjorn2run
(3 years ago)
When a coach does something illegal that costs a school millions of dollars being on probation, why isn't that a criminal offense? Why does the school and players have to suffer, but the offending coach gets to go free and coach somewhere else?
Make it a criminal offense, with the coaches involved facing jail time and maybe it might help some. b2r
JLMO
(3 years ago)
Fido Belo - A few student athletes making bad decisions because of poor character don't equate to an athletic program cheating and the institution having inadequate control over said programs.
MexiMike
(3 years ago)
Filo Bedo, you're comparing apples and oranges (no pun on the colors). Nowhere in recent history have OSU coaches broken NCAA rules. OU is already on probation for said infractions and yet at least one of their coaches cheated AGAIN. If it happens once then you punish the individual sport. If it happens again, you have to look at the entire athletic program because of gross lack of control.
And again, like I said, it would be difficult to monitor ALL phone usage. But when the university has the phone bills they can at least keep an eye on that.
This whole "stuff happens" excuse is ridiculous. OU Coaches have been caught cheating numerous times now within the last 7 years. Would you be so forgiving if these infractions were on Texas's head? I doubt it.
MexiMike
(3 years ago)
Wow Filo, "obviously OSU has a poor track record with the type of players they bring in?" Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Also, why is it when kids mess up at OU, it's not the school or coaches fault but when an athlete messes up at OSU, they have a "poor track record with those type of players?" You just love those double standards, don't you?
The Kelvin Sampson infractions were not minor. My gosh, how crimson are the glasses you look through? He was busted not once, but twice for making illegal phone calls to recruits...somewhere in the range of over 500!
And the "stuff happens" excuse again, is tired and pathetic...especially when the coaches are involved. I'm not making excuses for the things OSU players have done and no other university should either. And yes, this has happened numerous times at OU in the last 10 years. That is why they are on probation.
Your Barry Switzer argument is pretty comical. The question isn't how he could allow kids to do those things. The question is why did he recruit kids with that type of character in the first place? I really doubt those players are perfect angels coming out of high school and then turn into uzi firing cocaine dealers once they hit the campus in Norman.
okcthunderrolls
(3 years ago)
This is a pointless discussion. Unless you know for sure that Capel has done any wrong then you're like the rest of us and have to follow the logic. If Castiglione had any indication that Capel was involved then Capel would be gone and we would've hired Josh Pastner by now. But, since Capel has not been fired it can be inferred that there is no evidence of wrongdoing on his part. Of course, the whole Athletic Department could be crooked...
nevermind I don't want to think about that. By the way the coach implicated in the so-called scandal was an assistant and he has been removed. There will be penalties of course but hopefully not bad ones.
MexiMike
(3 years ago)
Okcthunderrolls, sorry if it was miscommunicated but I never meant to imply Capel was guilty of anything. I was speaking about the assistant coach who was involved. With that being said, Capel did hire him so unfortunately the responsibility still lies on his shoulders. Also, if the assistant coach was involved in paying at least one player, what are the odds that it all happened without Capel knowing anything about it?
The Picker
(3 years ago)
Who hired Capel?
Who hired everybody who allegedly or actually broke the rules?
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