Dobrescu, (8/7/2008 6:03:20 AM)

The TSA would have to install these $170,000 machines at every airport and screen every passenger to make the entire system foolproof.

Do you think any terroist is that dumb as to try and board a plane at an airport with one of these scanners.

Remember, the 9/11 terrorists entered the air travel system through Bangor, Maine. Once in the systems they can remain in the secured area of any connecting airport and board almost any flight on any airline.

OKLA, (8/7/2008 10:48:16 AM)

It doesn't seem necessary for the machine to be quite so "efficient." Detection of foreign objects regardless of their material does not warrant "undressing" the traveler. If this is approved, and apparently it already has been, what will come next - deposit your clothes and carry on's at the Sky Cap desk and pick them up at your destination? One thing is for sure, profiling by the machine is impossible, as if profiling was wrong in the first place.

RockBoston, (8/7/2008 11:30:01 AM)

I wonder how long it will be untill we hear about some TSA agent having to much fun with the images. Look out good looking women, they might not see your face but they can see "you".

jf, Webb City (8/7/2008 11:52:53 AM)

I agree with all of the above. But its a start to making flying a safer way to travel. I do feel a little concerned about other people being able to see my wife or kids "naked". But I'd rather be shot with radio waves than to be x-rayed every time.

M. E. in Tulsa, Tulsa (8/7/2008 4:16:06 PM)

I see London...I see France....I see someones underpants....ooops no underpants....

Come on guys its that big of a deal. Its a pat down alternative.

Latisha, Tulsa (8/7/2008 5:32:37 PM)

This is why I will never fly again. The airlines and government are ruining everything. You can add the oil companies and their greed to that list too.

Steven, (8/7/2008 6:11:34 PM)

"The image is viewed by another transportation security officer at a remote location, and the image can't be stored, transmitted or printed. The image is deleted after it is viewed by the officer. It can never be retrieved again."

And who believes what the government says? I guarantee you images will end up on internet porn sites.

Norm, (8/8/2008 12:25:18 AM)

Latisha - are you going to include Internet/Technology companies and THEIR greed to your list? What about "Big Education" and THEIR greed...can they be on the list too??? After all - both groups made a greater percentage of profit than "big oil" did.
It would only be "Fair" to do it that way.... Or, are we only picking the unpopular segments of our economy?

Dobrescu, (8/8/2008 8:26:31 AM)

End up on some porn site! Give me a break. If the images shown in the article are what the TSA will see and they get on the internet, boy, you have to be pretty hard up to get off looking at an image like that.

major, Tulsa (8/8/2008 9:56:12 AM)

We are facing threats by others who want to kill us is the main reason why it is being installed, isn't it? If they stop a frew druggies along the way, great. It's sad but a reality.

It's amazing Tulsa is getting this machine around the same time as larger airports.

RockBoston, (8/8/2008 11:45:51 AM)

I will have my wife wear screen mesh undies

definedego, (8/12/2008 3:02:54 PM)

I just read an article about prisoners who transport cell phones and other things in their rectum (of all places). This machine will just add a bunch of costs and not catch the serious/die hard criminals.

GregOhio, (8/15/2008 8:37:01 AM)

Nice job reprinting the TSA press release. This "story" is so objective that the TSA links to it from their home page.

At this point, using these machines is voluntary. Protect your privacy and opt out of using the machines.

anm1135, (8/15/2008 12:24:48 PM)

Rock on Norm!!

Latisha, don't forget the Big Carwash Companies and the Big Cell Phone Industry. They are all out to ruin our lives and take food from the mouths of our children. Maybe we should eliminate all for profit companies. Or perhaps Latisha could move to China or Cuba or some place has a dictatorship.

pirate, Mannford (8/15/2008 12:57:52 PM)

I wonder if they would let me look at the image of myself - - i've got a lot of hardware in my knee and some silver in my teeth. Would be cool to look at.....by myself :)

bmtfather, (10/2/2008 12:35:31 PM)

Taking away freedoms!! Are you serious? I don't know if you have read the US Constitution or the Declaration of Independence lately but I don't recall seeing flying the friendly skies as one of the rights we have as US citizens. If you are ok with the security procedures they require so you might not get blown out of the sky or hit a building then STAY HOME or drive, but be careful a police officer might pull you over and pat you down because you are acting like a punk that thinks you are entitled to something that you don't even understand.

mist, (2/20/2009 12:22:20 PM)

I had to go thru this machine twice already. Nowhere I saw that I had the option of not going into the machine. My family and I were the selected ones to go in...My daughter and I both cried afterward. We both felt very humiliated and probably the same as if we had been raped.

These machines should be eliminated and outlawed!

Daniel Day Simpson, Edmond (2/20/2009 9:49:53 PM)

While recently traveling I noticed a huge lapse in airport security at a smaller airport. Someone could literally bypass the checkpoint and go right into a plane with just about anything. This is why safety experts believe we should spend more on bomb detection technologies and less on these scanning devices. I don't think it matters much if someone sneaks a gun or knife onto a flight. What are they going to do, try to kill everybody that way? I also agree with the experts who say a lot of the procedures and rules about air travel are nothing but a meaningless smoke screen. The cellphone rule is one of the stupid things. While I wouldn't use a cellphone on a plane even if it were permissible I would like to keep it running to receive messages. I've had an occasion where I failed to get it shut off. The one thing they are worried about is the precision instrument landing equipment. That stuff is highly shielded and there is a better chance of ground transmissions causing interference than something in the plane behind the receiving antennas. The other threat is to navigation equipment. GPS has pretty much solved that as DME and VOR signals can be easily jammed and Loran C is not always reliable. Air travel is bad enough its time they evolve and return to the days of being a service and not a burden.

bhamy, (2/21/2009 9:16:29 AM)

Daniel -
I can explain the cell phone rules. One cell phone will not bother the navigation instruments, but 150 - 200 of them all trying to transmit could. Also, once you are above 6000 feet or so, you're going to lose the signal. When you do, cell phones start to constantly try to reacquire the signal. This is what the noise is you sometimes hear when your phone is near your speakers or radio. The result of trying to reacquire a signal by 150 - 200 phones on a big jet is a ton of useless transmitting that could interfere with the instruments. The other result is an almost dead battery once you reach your destination because the phone has been transmitting for the entire flight.
One interesting fact in the article is that the scanner is 10,000 times less powerful than a cell phone signal.
Full disclosure: I'm a pilot that has occasionally forgotten to turn off my phone on a flight. I've had it start ringing in my pocket on final approach! Not really dangerous, just distracting...

paddock, (2/21/2009 11:53:46 AM)

We have all this security b cos of 911.Who did 911? visit 600 architects n engineers for 911truth website who give evidense of thermite bombs in the buildings,WTC 7 demolition n truth about flight 93.
Be ready for police state.

Govlady, (2/24/2009 3:28:49 PM)

It is an invasion of privacy, pure and simple. I've had jewelry stolen by TSA from my luggage. (Thousands of people have had their stuff stolen from their luggage). So I have a very negative view of TSA--some are thieves, so I wouldn't put it past some of them to "misuse" some of the images--any of the images could end up anywhere on the internet by someone taking a picture of the image using a cellphone or tiny camera. I will NEVER opt for this strip search. I also wouldn't want cameras in public restrooms or dressing rooms (to be seen "remotely" by some security person). Nope, I don't trust anyone.

BobbyD86, (4/1/2009 4:50:57 PM)

Are you people KIDDING me?! "My daughter and I both cried afterward. We both felt very humiliated and probably the same as if we had been raped." They can't even see any detail of your genitalia unless you're not wearing under-garments! How is that ANY different from you showing up at a beach wearing a two-piece? You're not being violated in any way. And you DO have an option of not going through the machine. You just have to tell the workers that you don't feel comfortable walking through it and they'll give you an alternative. Then all of you people saying they're taking our rights away?! I loved what BMTFATHER said, "I don't recall seeing flying the friendly skies as one of the rights we have as US citizens." If you don't like it, don't choose to fly the airlines that are using this. OR you can drive wherever you want to go. This is a MUCH better alternative to metal detectors because they'll show things that the metal detectors can't pick up and if you have a plate (say, in your heel, like my mother) then you won't have to go through the hassle of being publicly searched. I honestly think that some of you like to complain for the sake of complaining and the idea of feeling violated afterward is laughable.

Average Jo, (4/8/2009 11:58:13 AM)

This is a virtual strip search. I simply cannot believe that this is allowed. Do we really want someone looking at these naked images of our wives and children? I for one do not. Bid adieu to another freedom of ours.

Pinky, Tulsa (4/9/2009 9:19:26 AM)

Hey BobbyG - if the screening technology can see through your clothing as indicated by the story, it stands to reason your underwear/bra are see-through as well, doesn't it? I'm just asking....

Mar, Tulsa (5/19/2009 10:25:39 AM)

Get a grip people. It's an image only, not an actual photograph. If it keeps another 9/11 from happening again, I'm all for it.

Mist, if you get upset that easily, how do you act when have a mammogram is taken or a pap smear? You must be hysterical then.