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Group alleges profiling


 
By DAVID HARPER World Staff Writer
Published: 8/26/2007  1:41 AM
Last Modified: 8/26/2007  1:43 AM

It will tell the Justice Department about reported discrimination against Hispanics by law enforcers, its leader says.

The president of a national advocacy organization said Saturday that it would formally report to the U.S. Department of Justice what he described as instances of discrimination against Hispanics by local law enforcers.

The Rev. Miguel Rivera, the president of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders, said he had heard of more than 30 examples of area residents being targeted on suspicion of not having immigration documents.

"That's racial profiling," Rivera said Saturday before speaking to a crowd at a Tulsa immigration information rally organized by the American Dream Coalition.

In a subsequent press release posted on his group's Web site, Rivera said the coalition was creating a "database which includes the name, badge number and patrol car plate identification of each local police officer that intervenes with any member of the community as a result of what is believed to be racial profiling."

The information will be of assistance "as we gather evidence for our federal reports and case development," the notice said

Rivera said representatives of the group had already talked with the Justice Department about investigating the allegations.

Federal officials explained the formal process involved in requesting Justice Department involvement, and the group plans to start

the required paperwork as soon as Monday, he said.

Tulsa Police Sgt. Stephanie Jackson said department policy bars racial profiling and that the Police Department and the Mayor's Office take such claims "very seriously."

"We're not going to pull anybody over based on their race," she said.

Anybody who feels that such activity has occurred can notify the department's Office of Integrity and Compliance or the city's Human Rights Department and the claim will be thoroughly investigated, she said.

Rivera did not limit his criticism to the Police Department. He also said employees of the Tulsa County Sheriff's Office "need to learn how to do their job" when dealing with Hispanics.

Chief Deputy Tim Albin said sheriff's officials had met with local Hispanic community leaders, but he has never heard from anyone from Rivera's coalition.

Albin said sheriff's representatives would be glad to listen to the group's concerns and look into the claims. He said the office would be glad to show the group statistics and data that would demonstrate that any claims of racial profiling are invalid.

A senior executive of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Julie Myers, was in Tulsa to announce that 31 sheriff's employees and seven law enforcement officers from other jurisdictions would begin a training program that will enable local officials to enforce immigration laws.

Albin said the participation of the sheriff's office in the program demonstrates its dedication to enforcing immigration laws properly.

Rivera reiterated on Saturday his statement that a lawsuit challenging House Bill 1804 is imminent.

HB 1804, the state's new sweeping illegal immigration measure, is to take effect Nov. 1. Rivera said a lawsuit could be filed in about two weeks in Tulsa federal court.

The Web site of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders says it consists of more than 16,000 churches in more than 30 states.


Previous DOJ scrutiny

In February 2001, the city was notified that the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division was scrutinizing the Police Department under the jurisdiction of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994.

That law bars police offi cers from engaging in a pattern or practice of conduct “that deprives persons of rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States.”

Even though the Justice Department never intervened in a then-ongoing class-action case filed against the city by black police officers, plaintiffs’ attorney Louis Bullock testified in July 2003 that he believed the DOJ’s interest in what was happening in Tulsa was important in reaching a settlement in that lawsuit.


David Harper 581-8359
david.harper@tulsaworld.com

By DAVID HARPER World Staff Writer

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Tater, Tulsa (8/26/2007 7:36:38 AM)
Bull feathers. Think about one thing for a moment: if an American citizen was in another Country without proper documentation, he or she would be detained and escorted out of that Country.

This racial profiling gambit is a lame attempt. We don't care if these folks are Hispanic, Asian, Nordic or Venusian......they are here illegally......and they have NO right to be here.

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SnraChavez, Tulsa (8/26/2007 7:45:51 AM)
They are not talking about that. What they are talking about is being stopped/detained and questioned just because they appear to be hispanic. Without cause other than skin color. Do you want to this to happen to YOU everytime you go to the store??? A driver's license does not prove status. Do you even know what documents you would have to carry to prove your status?
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C.G., Tulsa (8/26/2007 7:49:41 AM)
The Rev. Rivera brings to mind the Rev. Jackson. Just another spin artist.Does not have a clue as to how to state just the facts.
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Mel Bloomfield, Broken Arrow (8/26/2007 7:53:37 AM)
How about profiling individuals who are in this country illegally? What's wrong with that?
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a, tulsa (8/26/2007 7:59:47 AM)
But the problem with that, Mel, is that they aren't stopping people who look like me or, I suspect, you. Profiling means suspecting anyone who looks Hispanic of being illegal....or Arabic of being a terrorist....or Black of being a criminal. Thats not my American way....

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E T, tulsa (8/26/2007 8:17:49 AM)
Maybe we should arrest victor orta and rivera for harboring and aiding criminals. if you are doing nothing wrong the police won't pull you over. it is no different than having a police checkpoint looking for drunks. by the way, 99% of the illegals are hispanic.
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Native American, (8/26/2007 8:22:13 AM)
Sen. Inhofe voted for NAFTA & CAFTA (Central American Free Trade Agreement) that eliminates the Border. We need to reverse these immemediately!
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SnraChavez, Tulsa (8/26/2007 8:22:55 AM)
Your seem to have profiling down to an art, ET. You assume that because the speak for the rights of hispanics that they are harboring and aiding. And, since you are not hispanic (my assumption) you do not have to deal with the profiling, therefore you think it does not exist. We are not talking about check points that stop every car. We ARE talking about check points that ONLY target a specific group.
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JF, Tulsa (8/26/2007 8:41:50 AM)
"...what he described as instances of discrimination against Hispanics by local law enforcers."

That is the key, what HE described as instances. If you are here legally, if you have legal documentation (not a Social Security number with 6 names associated with it), then you don't have anything to worry about it. If someone is here illegally, I don't care what nationality, you are breaking the law. What some seem to ignore is IF an American goes to another country and breaks the law, we don't get amnesty. You want to hear some of the horror stories about Americans in Mexican jails?? This guy is just a bleeding heart trying to make a name for himself.

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Michael Phillips, Tulsa (8/26/2007 8:50:21 AM)
I would be very annoyed if the police were targeting people who look European, the way I do, and I ended up being late for work because I couldn't prove that I was born here. I am accustomed to hearing claims of racism in defense of people who are here illegally. This article really is talking about racism, which makes this article unusual. Those citizens who have hispanic appearance and are voicing complaints against the police, could gain credibility by also complaining about the number of illegals in this country. They already have a righteous complaint.
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SnraChavez, Tulsa (8/26/2007 9:07:12 AM)
I think you can have credibility and not complain about the number of illegals in this country. We don't we complain about the backlog that keeps all of those who have filed the I130 waiting for so long. If they would clear up the backlog at the immigratioin center the number of undocumented aliens would decrease.
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wtf, tulsa (8/26/2007 9:14:12 AM)
Miguel Rivera - "The president of a national advocacy organization said Saturday that it would formally report to the U.S. Department of Justice what he described as instances of discrimination against Hispanics by local law enforcers." I don't believe much of anything that comes out of any "advocates" mouth. They are likely to be biased for political purposes. Nothing more.

Further to that: the coalition was creating a "database which includes the name, badge number and patrol car plate identification of each local police officer that intervenes with any member of the community as a result of what is believed to be racial profiling." That information should be made public immediately! What the illegal immigrant "believes" and what actually happened are likely two very different things. I believe they are harassing the police by use scare mongering tactics to force them to back off.

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SnraChavez, Tulsa (8/26/2007 9:24:43 AM)
This whole immigration issue is politically motivated and fueled with prejudice and hate. Harassing the police!!!! I guess if they are not profiling they will have nothing to worry about will they!
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Db, (8/26/2007 9:28:39 AM)
Racial Profiling is any police or private security practice in which a person is treated as a suspect because of his or her race, ethnicity, nationality or religion. This occurs when police investigate, stop, frisk, search or use force against a person based on such characteristics instead of evidence of a person's criminal behavior. It often involves the stopping and searching of people of color for traffic violations, known as "DWB" or "driving while black or brown." Although normally associated with African Americans and Latinos.
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John, (8/26/2007 9:52:55 AM)
I am so tired of people pulling the racial card every time they are don't get what they want or when the rules or laws are enforced.
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anthony bhal, tulsa (8/26/2007 9:58:44 AM)
You dont see thousands of white irish people crossing the boarder and here illegally. Facts are Facts HISPANICS are the number one race that is in america illegally. The police are just doing their job. And I thank them for taking the CRIMINALS off the street and that includes the Hispanic Criminals who are here illegally. I have seen the term used as undocumented immigrant. You can tie a ribbon around a turd.. its still a turd... They are plan and simple CRIMINALS.
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SnraChavez, Tulsa (8/26/2007 9:59:15 AM)
I guess it's OK to disobey the law when it comes to profiling and descrimination. We certainly don't want to through out the 'racial card' when THAT law is being abused. Seems as if we only want to obey the laws that support our own personal agenda.
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Db, (8/26/2007 10:05:22 AM)
Snra Chavez:

You know that people with racist tendencies are NEVER going to admitt they are part of that group; Its like drug addicts or alcoholics..They know that they are addicts

but live in denial,and any comment that people with fair tought on humanity its called for them "trowing the racial card"

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Tater, Tulsa (8/26/2007 10:13:04 AM)
I doubt very seriously that a law enforcement officer would detain a Hispanic-looking person in the toy department of Wal-Mart and ask for his/her driver's license.

I also doubt that law enforcement is pulling Hispanic-looking drivers over for no due cause....I truly believe that this population is paranoid. And if I was here illegally and afraid of being deported, I'm sure I would be very much afraid of the law enforcement officer doing his job.

If you want to live here, we welcome you. Just be here legally.

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C.G., Tulsa (8/26/2007 10:26:10 AM)
SnraChavez me thinks you should shut up. Just the facts please.
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Mary A., Tulsa (8/26/2007 10:28:43 AM)
To believe that law enforcement in Tulsa and around the state are incapable of racial profiling is very naive. It happens everyday in cities around the country. Read the papers. The real paranoia exists in the American public who fears change and the unknown. As an American, I feel that its our responsiblity to embrace different cultures and learn how to enrich our own communities by working together rather than seeing people who are different as 'aliens'. Rev. Rivera is doing what Jesse Jackson has done for his community, to stand up and say "Enough" - without these leaders, I fear that the bad seeds among our American people will turn their fear to hate and do the wrong thing to shame the rest of us.
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darrell, (8/26/2007 10:42:35 AM)
Mary what are you smoking?
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John, (8/26/2007 10:43:06 AM)
SnraChavez, in your comment about being okay for law enforcement to break the law....well if that was the case, why is ok for those who are here illegally and in clear violation of the law. Claiming racism every time you don’t get what you want just perpetuates racism.
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DavidS, Tulsa (8/26/2007 11:32:53 AM)
Law officials are opnly pulling you over if you violate a law ( unless you're a blonde...)

If you don't want the police to check your status don't make a driving violation or rape someone or rob someone..

It's as simple as that , there is no profiling going on.

Orta & Rivera need to stop using the Rev. in front of their name . With the lies and false testimony along with the hate they are spewing.

It is also sad that our media is giving them the podium to promote the falsness. They should join the group in Kansas as they are sounding about the same...

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lynette, tulsa (8/26/2007 11:35:46 AM)
All you pro-profiling people, think about it . . . think about what it would be like if, once you cross the borders of Oklahoma, you're "profiled" based on your Oklahoma tag . . . profiled as a bigot, as a racist, as a hateful, close-minded, heartless individual. Wouldn't it be a drag if everywhere you drive, you were pulled over by (geeze, I wish there were some) police who targeted you for arrest because of your judgmental, condemning, hateful idiocy?

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