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Coburn won't budge on veterans bill

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Sen. Tom Coburn: He thinks the bill will hurt veterans’ job opportunities.
 
By JIM MYERS World Washington Bureau
Published: 9/6/2007  1:47 AM
Last Modified: 9/6/2007  1:47 AM

WASHINGTON -- U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn vowed Wednesday to continue his hold on a bill designed to address high suicide rates among veterans, calling the bill insulting to veterans and warning that its mandatory mental health screening could harm their future job options.

Supporters of the bill dismissed the Oklahoma Republican's concerns, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., served notice that he would move the bill before Congress adjourns.

"We are not going to let one or two senators stop us from moving forward on this," said Reid, who cit ed his father's suicide years ago.

Both sides of the impasse, reported earlier by Congressional Quarterly, aired their views in comments delivered on the Senate floor.

Coburn attempted to distance himself from previously reported concerns about the impact the bill could have on veterans' gun rights, saying that's "hardly the situation at all."

Instead, he focused on the duplication of ongoing efforts by the Department of Veterans Affairs, the mandated mental health screening for all veterans, regardless of why they visit a VA facility, and the tracking of veterans who have mental health issues.

"It's insulting to our military men and women," Coburn said.

He said such mandatory screening of all veterans, even those without any symptoms, would result in such information becoming part of their record, which could impact their efforts to become a pilot, a police officer or join other professions.

"I'm going to continue to hold this bill until we work on the issues to guarantee freedoms of the veterans in terms of the tracking of their data and them individually, in terms of securing the data about them," Coburn said.

He also said his attempts to resolve his differences with Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, the bill's sponsor, have been rebuffed.

During his remarks, Harkin disputed Coburn's claim.

Harkin said his staff, along with the staff of Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, one of the bill's supporters, met with Coburn's staff before the August recess.

Coburn's staff, he said, made no suggestions to resolve Coburn's concerns, adding that attempts to set up additional meetings were unsuccessful.

Harkin said Coburn's concerns are unfounded.

Veterans, he said, returning from deployment already are required by the Department of Defense to complete a check-list on symptoms such as anxiety, sleeping difficulties and suicidal thoughts.

"There are no opt-outs because these programs are critical to ensure that those with mental health concerns receive the assistance they need," Harkin said.

He said he was puzzled by Coburn's concerns that the bill could interfere with a veteran's right to access firearms.

"There are strict privacy laws that govern the doctor-patient relationship," Harkin said. "Privacy laws prevent the release of identifiable information about any patient."


Jim Myers (202) 484-1424
jim.myers@tulsaworld.com

By JIM MYERS World Washington Bureau

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Tony G., (9/6/2007 7:08:24 AM)
I believe, employers and friends SHOULD know

if the person they hire or befriend has serious mental health problems caused by this UNJUSTIFIED

invasion.

Our Govt owes these men and women much, so they should NOT be dumped on society, to let the damage occur over and over.

I don't think to much of Couburn, he's another embarrassment to Oklahoma.

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Ralph, Tulsa (9/6/2007 7:09:56 AM)
This from a man who holds SIX draft deferments during the Viet Nam war?
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JW, (9/6/2007 8:45:26 AM)
Well, in the long run supporting coburn's position might not be a bad idea. If people find out how many f ed up soldiers were are getting back from Iraq, we'll just have to dump out huge government wellfare subsidies to keep them on permanent government support since they wont be able to get jobs. People think Vietnam was bad....just wait until the headcases start revealing themselves after this iraq mess is over.
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larryk, rural (9/6/2007 8:49:01 AM)
Of all the crazy positions that Coburn has taken, this one is the craziest. Come on, Senator, a lot of the troops who are lucky enough to come back from that hellhole have mental health issues and need help. Better for a few veterans to have a record of receiving care than for employers to discriminate against all Iraq veterans because so many of them have mental problems.

Plus, we wouldn't want veterans with mental problems to have difficulty getting guns, would we?

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Hank, Tulsa (9/6/2007 9:14:03 AM)
The real problem behind this whole thing is the stigma still attached to emotional and mental conditions. It keeps veterans from seeking help and keeps them from taking treatment unless the condition is so severe they can be forced to get help. Then there is more stigma resulting from the fact of so much untreated illness causing problems with work and family. If you didn't treat your diabetes or your heart trouble, it'd cause you problems in every part of your life. Same with mental conditions. Then there is the fear of stigma that causes a senator to withhold support for treatment.
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RDA, Tahlequah (9/6/2007 9:36:10 AM)
I think they should give all members of the US government mandatory mental evaluations. Tell me Harry Ried ain't nuts
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Justice, Tahlequah (9/6/2007 10:28:42 AM)
I believe they should be screened. If it's mandetory, no employer is going to hold the fact that they were screened against them if everyone discharged from the military must be screened. What Mr. Coburn is afraid of, is that if the discharged soldier has problems, they may be eligible for more benefits from the military. God forbid that our soldiers get more benefits than the very minimal.
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Michael Phillips, Tulsa (9/6/2007 11:01:17 AM)
RDA, has the right idea. Tom Coburn has legitimate concerns about our second amendment rights. Anyone could lose his second amendment rights after being adjudicated by the state as a danger to himself or others. This adjudication normally has a time limit at which point the person is reevaluated. We veterans have an added threat to our second amendment rights. When the military labels a person a danger to himself or others the label tends to last forever.
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Tom, Dallas (9/6/2007 11:20:45 AM)
The good news is that no one in the Senate thinks anything about Coburn except that he's nuts. Business just rolls right along without him. Funny that gun fanatics worry they might be determined to be a danger to themselves or others. Well, DUH!!!
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Geoff, Dallas, Texas (9/6/2007 11:43:13 AM)
The real problem for Republicans is that the wounded troops didn't do the patriotic thing and die on the battlefield. They had the bad taste to survive and require treatment and disability funds that should be going into the pockets of Republican patrons.

Vets who have the patriotism and courage to commit suicide should be applauded for relieving the taxpayers of the financial burden they would have caused.

Coburn is a courageous Republican patriot who stands head and shoulders above the rest of the Republican wusses in congress.

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Patrick, Tulsa (9/6/2007 1:28:57 PM)
I hope all of you who voted for this guy are happy now...
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D, (9/6/2007 4:31:24 PM)
Coburn was featured on a Labor Day radio special on ABC Radio by John Stossel of 20/20 fame. According to Stossel, Coburn is gathering momentum on his anti-pork, amti-earmark stance in the Senate. If that's what people on this board are calling "nuts", then i say to you, get off the government dole and get your butt to work to for yourself. This country is too far down the path to socialism, and we need in Washington liie Coburn brave enough to say "no".
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The Angry Patient, . (9/6/2007 10:25:55 PM)
wanna know how veterans get treated in the hospital? so much for respect.....

theangrypatient dot com.

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Tom, Dallas (9/7/2007 11:01:49 AM)
"D", I've paid up to a half a million dollars a year to the IRS off my earnings and if you believe aiding our veterans is "socialism" then I'm a socialist, but you and ole Tom C. are still just nuts.
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Gibbsey, Ia, Conrad (9/7/2007 6:00:27 PM)
I think that Sen. coburn should watch what he does and says because this effects more then just the troops that fight for his rights, but the family's that raise and support these such troops. Josh Omvig was a personal friend of mine and his dad was my coach and teacher. His memory deserves more than politics and the run around from some senator who doesn't even know what he is talking about. The only thing he knows is what he is told.
 

 
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