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Roberts denies lawsuit reports

RESPONSE

Richard Roberts: He answers accusations in interviews.


 
By APRIL MARCISZEWSKI World Staff Writer
Published: 10/10/2007  1:41 AM
Last Modified: 10/12/2007  3:56 PM


Correction
This story misspelled the name of Stephanie Cantees, the sister-in-law of Richard Roberts and an employee of Oral Roberts Ministries.




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The ORU president says the allegations from three ex-professors are not true.

NEW YORK -- Oral Roberts University President Richard Roberts and his wife, Lindsay Roberts, denied on Tuesday that they had misused university money, allegations made against them in a lawsuit a week ago.

The couple gave their first interview since the lawsuit was filed as they rode Tuesday in ORU's leased 1979 Hawker 700 plane en route to New York City for an interview on CNN's "Larry King Live."

A Tulsa World reporter and photographer and an AP reporter accompanied the Robertses to New York. The World made arrangements to pay for the cost of transporting its personnel.

On the show, King asked the couple to address the claims in the lawsuit point-by-point, beginning with the allegation that Richard Roberts, president of ORU, required professor Tim Brooker to make his students help with a Tulsa mayoral campaign in 2006.

"I didn't ask or coerce

anybody to do that. That's not true," Richard Roberts responded.

Brooker is among three former Oral Roberts University professors who on Oct. 2 filed suit against the school and four administrators, including Roberts, alleging wrongful termination and wrongful causing of one professor's resignation.

The professors said they lost their jobs because they turned over to administrators a report that alleged that the Richard Roberts family extensively spent university money for personal uses.

Richard Roberts confirmed on CNN that one of the professors was terminated, another's contract was not renewed and the third resigned.

A week after two of the plaintiffs and their attorney held a press conference to announce the filing of the lawsuit, the Robertses said in an interview with the Tulsa World and The Associated Press that they still had not been served with the lawsuit and were instead being tried "in the court of public opinion and media."

Although the lawsuit filed by three former ORU professors claims that they were wrongfully fired or caused to resign, Richard Roberts said, "I think it is about a personal character attack about Lindsay and me."

But Lindsay Roberts said they have turned to the Bible's command to love others.

"If we don't do that, we aren't who we say we are," she said.

The mayoral campaign: The lawsuit alleges that Richard Roberts required former professor and plaintiff Tim Brooker to make his students work on Republican Randi Miller's mayoral campaign last year. Richard Roberts told the World and the AP he did not do that, nor did he require Brooker to take the blame with the Internal Revenue Service and say Brooker had required students to work on Miller's campaign.

ORU requires government students to work on campaigns of their choice for field experience, he said.

The IRS checked into the situation and, after ORU answered its questions, told ORU, "You're fine," Richard Roberts said.

The report: The lawsuit contains a summary of a report allegedly written by Lindsay Roberts' sister, Stephanie Cantese, whose job is to report weekly to Richard Roberts anything she has heard in the community, from the City Council, from the mayor and elsewhere, he said.

"She writes what she hears down, whether it's good or bad, whether it's true or false," Richard Roberts said.

Three years ago, when he received Cantese's report that contained some of the claims included in the lawsuit, he laughed.

"It was so ridiculous, I just dismissed it out of hand," he said.

While working on the Miller campaign, a student was asked to repair an ORU computer, Tim Brooker said. The student backed up the computer's files and discovered the report on the alleged misuse of ORU money, Brooker said.

Richard Roberts said the report referenced in the lawsuit was not written in Cantese's style and contained allegations that Roberts had never heard, such as his wife's remodeling the house to build a 2,000-square-foot closet.

The allegations that the lawsuit mentions actually were Cantese's messages to herself as she was compiling her report, Richard Roberts said.

Their house: Lindsay Roberts told the World and the AP that said she does not have a 2,000-square-foot closet, as alleged in the lawsuit. She measured it and counted 528 square feet, but she and her husband were quick to point out that it serves as storage for study guides, TV transcripts and more.

She also said the family does not have its own soda vending machine in its garage, as the lawsuit's summarization of the report claims. The family does have a mini-fridge.

Vehicles: The report in the lawsuit also alleges that the Robertses use vehicles donated for ORU or Oral Roberts Ministries use. Lindsay Roberts said a friend in Dallas gave her a Lexus sport utility vehicle in 2000 and that Richard Roberts bought her a red Mercedes for her birthday.

"He said, 'Mind you, this is your birthday present until you're 67 years old,' " she said her husband told her.

Clothes: The report in the lawsuit alleges that university and ministries employees are routinely told to charge clothing expenses to the organizations rather than to the Roberts family. The Robertses said a TV wardrobe is kept by the ministries for Lindsay Roberts and that those clothes remain with the ministries for use on her TV shows, never going home with her.

She said employees are adding up her clothing receipts but have not found her expenses to amount to as much as the lawsuit claims.

Homework and tutors: Richard Roberts said the report's claim that ORU and Oral Roberts Ministries employees regularly do their daughters' homework is "a bunch of balogna."

However, the family has personally paid for tutors because two of the three Roberts daughters have dyslexia, like their mother, the couple said.

Cell phones: The report in the lawsuit claims that Lindsay Roberts sent text messages to underage males, often between 1 and 3 a.m. In response, Lindsay Roberts said one of her daughters uses her cell phone when the daughter's is broken. Also, the Robertses routinely send one of their cell phones home with their daughters' visitors to make sure the visitors get home safely. Then they retrieve the phone in the morning, Richard Roberts said.

The Robertses reiterated that they pay for their personal expenses and said the audit and compliance committee of the ORU Board of Regents determines what expenses are business-related and what are personal. Personal expenses are deducted monthly from Richard Roberts' paycheck, Lindsay Roberts said. She is not an ORU employee and, thus, is not paid by the school.

Oral Roberts himself shared his reaction to the lawsuit during a telephone interview with King from his home in California, saying the allegations in the lawsuit were only "sort of a shock" to him because "we have been through some tough experiences" before.


World staff writer Andrea Eger contributed to this story.


April Marciszewski 581-8475
april.marciszewski@tulsaworld.com

By APRIL MARCISZEWSKI World Staff Writer

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Bryan, (10/10/2007 2:12:10 AM)
Richard, to admit that you have never done anything wrong regarding the university is quite alarming. Just be real. Admit your faults, whether they be big or small, and people will respect you more. Stop trying to cover up every little thing. Talk about your past mistakes and help others to learn from them!
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Boxing-Champ, Tulsa (10/10/2007 2:37:18 AM)
P-ROB. I am an ORU ALUMNI and I STAND BY YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. As well as 99 percent of the student community at ORU. PEACE.

the boxing-champ.

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Betty young, (10/10/2007 3:05:58 AM)
God Bless You. I believe you both. The truth will be revealed! Praise God
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Terri, (10/10/2007 3:15:42 AM)
My family and I stand by you as well. We know who "the accuser of the brethern" is. Put on "The Whole Armor of GOD" just like it says in Ephesians Chapter 6. We will be interceding for you. Stand strong.

In Christ's love........

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michae; moore, pensacola fl (10/10/2007 3:45:48 AM)
Once again you have buy your action ,true or false brought dishoner to Christ.

This is what happens when you think you are above Gods laws let alone mans.

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Stevie, Owasso (10/10/2007 3:51:44 AM)
Does anyone know is Lindsay has a degree, or was it bought with University money also? P.S...This is a serious question. I just want to know her qualifications for sitting on the board and for earning 200,000 from an unbrella company of ORU.
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SAL, Tulsa (10/10/2007 4:21:18 AM)
i grew up in tulsa, went to high school with christy roberts, and knew the family. several of my family members worked at the "university". the whole operation is a cancer on humanity, lindsay is a nasty snotty woman and a liar. richard belongs in prison with jim bakker. the whole place is infested with hypocrisy and lies. charlatans, dirtbags, and criminals. the sooner the place is bulldozed into the ash-heap of history, the better. i hope they all get what's legally coming to them. they have lived above the law for too many decades. WHAT KIND OF JET WOULD JESUS BUY?
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john, palmcoast (10/10/2007 5:54:46 AM)
i pray the truth will all come out .if any one is under there teachings and all they talk about is money every thing money something is wrong i know some when they look in the the bible they see doller signs this is wrong . stay away from every preacher that always wanting your money money . paul warned about wolves so am i run for your lives. dont give any money hungery preacher a penny give it to the poor. no preacher should live like a king. jesus said to the rich man sell and give it all to the poor and come and fellow me . folks if these preachers are telling you jesus was rich they are lieing. so beware look in bible for your self you will see a humble and loveing jesus . not a money crazed lier like some of to days wolves
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Ron B, Broken Arrow (10/10/2007 5:57:08 AM)
It is amazing to contrast the ministry of the Roberts' Kingdom to the modest dwelling of Billy Graham. Rev. Graham preaches salvation. The Roberts boys preach wealth and promise people that sending money to them is the answer to life's problems. I always chuckled at the "Seed Faith" sermons; why couldn't God bless you no matter which preacher you decided to support? It always had to be Oral or Richard's organization. A 2000 square foot closet for Lindsey? Give me a break. How many people in Tulsa live in places smaller than that??? Richard needs to resign and quit trying to save his empire in the secular media. He needs to humble himself before God, sell his expensive homes, cars, jewelry, etc and give the money to the poor. They may fool a lot of people, but God knows everything about them, and all of us will face Him one day.
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Ralph Casteel, Tulsa,Ok (10/10/2007 7:19:13 AM)
Richard and Lindsey presented themselves very well last night on "Larry King". Their answers were forthright and without any hesitation. It(the interview)should silence many of the pundits who feed on gossip, rumor and innuendo.

There are excesses in most people's lives.We should use these allegations as a yardstick to measure our own integrity and stewardship.

One final thing, So much hoopla has manifested over a 673K salary and benefit package. That is a lot of money, but hardly overpayment for the anount of Work that the Roberts do. In comparison, Bob Stoops of OU is payed at least 2.1 Million for a job that has little redemptive Social Value and Oklahomans are proud of it and would pay him more if He only asked.

Despite any foibles and fallacies that beset the Roberts family the University and the Ministry have been responsible for the furtherment of the Cause of Christ, Good Solid citizenship and a stand for morality in Tulsa and the World for the last 42 years.

To the Critics--What have you done with your Life? Carl Robbins-I wish especially you would consider the Quetion.

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b, tulsa (10/10/2007 7:27:56 AM)
If Tulsa wants to move forward, a good place to start would be shutting down ORU. Too many times, Oral Roberts and his family have made Tulsa a laughing stock...whatever ORU contributes to our economy, it isn't worth how it makes Tulsa look to the rest of the world.
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formerorustudent, (10/10/2007 7:53:07 AM)
Ralph...ORU is not a successful running busines like OU. ORU is in detrimental debt which is why our faculty and staff are underpaid and our academic departments suffer budget cuts yearly. In light of this, the Roberts not only are over paid, but poor stewards of the university. Asking him to step down would not be inappropriate at all.
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Ralph Casteel, Tulsa,Ok (10/10/2007 8:03:39 AM)
formerorustudent- And what have you done with your life thus far? Have you made ANY mistakes? Do YOu have any excesses in Your Life?

ANYONE can be a Critic and EVERYONE has an Opinion. We have both voiced ours. God Bless You!

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MBH, Tulsa (10/10/2007 8:08:07 AM)
Of course, they had all the answers-after consulting with their attorneys.If they are truly guilty of those things who would really be surprised?
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Tracie, Tulsa (10/10/2007 8:10:06 AM)
Why was a professor who was supposedly "tenured" fired? The Roberts are like everyone else in this country who live above their means. Fess up and be more responsible.
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tim, tulsa (10/10/2007 8:15:16 AM)
Formerorustudent......you cant compare ORU to OU....OU cant run a deficit, because it is funded by my tax dollars, and thus subsidized....state run Universities have much more $$.....Ive worked with 100s of universities across the U.S., and they have the same issues....coaches over paid, and a much bigger almni base.....OU has hundreds of thousands of alums...ORU only had thousands.....although the Roberts may have spent some funds, it's hardly in the millions, nor, even if there was repayment, it wouldnt be enough to pull the university out of debt....the biggest problems over the years started with the city of faith....Oral took a risk, and it didnt pay off....did you know they provided free care to homeless people.......hardly any hospital in the world would do that....so Orals heart was in the right place.....risk taking is part of any business....sometimes it pays off, and sometimes it doesnt.... City of faith has been what pushed things to the brink, not ORU.....when CFS was in Cityplex, things were headed in the right direction, but Bartlet scammed millions, and that is what has lead ORU to the present issues.....once again, even if the complaints are true, and even if the Roberts paid the amounts back, you are only talking about a few hundred thousand per year....it's a drop in the bucket
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Jana, Alpharetta (10/10/2007 8:22:15 AM)
The lawsuit is about the wrongful firing(escorting a professor of 14 years with tenure off campus with guards and threatening legal action if he set foot back on the property) only 2 days after he mentioned his concern about the report he saw to the board of regents. heard of the whistleblower law? It is a federal offense. The side notes are the money issues and scandalous allegations Stephanie wrote about in the report.
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Jana, Alpharetta (10/10/2007 8:26:10 AM)
Tracie, from Tulsa- Your question is the question of the day. That is the central issue of the lawsuit. It is not the allegations listed in the report. The scandalous nature of the writings is overshadowing the wrongful termination of these 3 professors.
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formerorustudent, (10/10/2007 8:28:40 AM)
Do you feel that some of these articles and reports are devoid of some really important facts? For any of you who are truly informed, ABC news has a link for you to report what you know. Must be factual and not just hear-say (though you could offer them leads)

abcnews.go.kom/Site/page?id=3072379

its important that we get the truth out to those who will listen.

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uhhh, tulsa (10/10/2007 8:30:08 AM)
you think the Roberts handled themselves well last night. I disagree 100%. They seemed rehearsed and very fake.

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And bless Oral, he tried. It was so obvious that a handler was feeding him the answers to the questions.

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Tim, drop in the bucket? Tell that to the thousands of parents that have paid tuition to that school. Or the millions of people that have sent in donations. There money was mismanaged and spent poorly...no defense for that.

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Using that logic, it is OK to steal a piece of gum at the checkout counter...just not the whole pack. Most of use try to teach our children that stealing ANYTHING is not OK...I think it is fair to hold the Roberts to the same standards of a 5 year old.

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Amber, Tulsa (10/10/2007 8:31:17 AM)
I am a current employee and friend of the family. I have told them that [for the sake of my soul and conscience] I cannot turn a blind eye or a deaf ear anymore. I witnessed their indiscretions and I benefitted from them. I am still benefitting, actually and the remorse is overwhelming. At this point, I have already gone on record with all that I know. It feels good to be honest about the whole situation. Even though I will lose all of my benefits [house and all bills paid for plus salary] for crossing them, I know that it is the right thing to do. I am one of numerous employees who benefit from the misuse of money and abuse of power.

The Roberts' are lying. Flat out lies. Their wording was carefully crafted so that they cannot be called liars if the truth comes out. The half truths were created by the Roberts and their PR gang {Mike Bernard, Jeff Ogle, Nancy Brainerd and Dave Ellsworth, who have just as much to lose if the truth is exposed}. Also, notice Oral did not address any of the money misappropriations. Why? Becuase it is all true. I have gone on trips to Newport Beach, which were written off as a visit to Oral. This is one of MANY such indiscretions. At least half a dozen other employees [former and current] ave stepped up to support the plaintiffs because they can validate the claims in the lawsuit.

Do not be deceived by diversionary response tactics. I am so sorry that it is true, but the Roberts's are wrong. So am I.

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Mike Jones, (10/10/2007 8:33:59 AM)
Why is it so hard for some people to believe that a man and a woman who constantly preach "send us your money...for your salvation" might be crooks?
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secret ministry!!!???, (10/10/2007 8:37:59 AM)
I encourage any beneficiary of the Roberts secret ministry to young victims of drug and alcohol abuse come forward and give your testimony. Tell us about how they bailed you out of jail and let you stay over at the compound and gave you Bible counseling in the morning. Did they fix you eggs or pancakes?

Also all the students who got kicked out of ORU for drinking alcohol or for drug use should come forward and give their testimony. Did you get counseling and a night at the Roberts an offer of a second chance to make things right...hell no you didn't!

That was the biggest bunch of bull I ever heard. Though I believe they have no such ministry, if so, its so hypocritical.

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Amber, Tulsa (10/10/2007 8:38:35 AM)
That report was compiled because Stephanie[LR's sister] was going to blackmail [or sue, if it came down to it] the Roberts.

Everything in that report is true.

Please remember, that it is a reflection of RR and LR, not the university or their children, one of whom is like a sister to me.

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formerorustudent, (10/10/2007 8:40:49 AM)
I am proud of you Amber and as a person who deeply loves ORU and its mission, I thank you for going forward with exposing the truth. I hope others will do the same, maybe they will even be inspired by your courage. God will reward your love for truth and justice. I pray that everything works out for you
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