Correction
This story misspelled the name of Stephanie Cantees, the sister-in-law of Richard Roberts and an employee of Oral Roberts Ministries.
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The ORU president
says the allegations from
three ex-professors are
not true.
NEW YORK -- Oral Roberts
University President Richard Roberts and his wife, Lindsay Roberts,
denied on Tuesday that they had
misused university money, allegations made against them in a lawsuit a week ago.
The couple gave their first interview since the lawsuit was filed as
they rode Tuesday in ORU's leased
1979 Hawker 700 plane en route to
New York City for an interview on
CNN's "Larry King Live."
A Tulsa World reporter and photographer and an AP reporter accompanied the Robertses to New
York. The World made arrangements to pay for the cost of transporting its personnel.
On the show, King asked the
couple to address the claims in the
lawsuit point-by-point, beginning
with the allegation that Richard
Roberts, president of ORU, required professor Tim Brooker to
make his students help with a Tulsa mayoral campaign in 2006.
"I didn't ask or coerce
anybody to do that. That's not
true," Richard Roberts responded.
Brooker is among three former Oral Roberts University
professors who on Oct. 2 filed
suit against the school and
four administrators, including
Roberts, alleging wrongful termination and wrongful causing of one professor's resignation.
The professors said they
lost their jobs because they
turned over to administrators
a report that alleged that the
Richard Roberts family extensively spent university money
for personal uses.
Richard Roberts confirmed
on CNN that one of the professors was terminated, another's
contract was not renewed and
the third resigned.
A week after two of the
plaintiffs and their attorney
held a press conference to announce the filing of the lawsuit, the Robertses said in an
interview with the Tulsa
World and The Associated
Press that they still had not
been served with the lawsuit
and were instead being tried
"in the court of public opinion
and media."
Although the lawsuit filed
by three former ORU professors claims that they were
wrongfully fired or caused to
resign, Richard Roberts said,
"I think it is about a personal
character attack about Lindsay and me."
But Lindsay Roberts said
they have turned to the Bible's
command to love others.
"If we don't do that, we
aren't who we say we are," she
said.
The mayoral campaign: The
lawsuit alleges that Richard
Roberts required former professor and plaintiff Tim Brooker to make his students work
on Republican Randi Miller's
mayoral campaign last year.
Richard Roberts told the
World and the AP he did not
do that, nor did he require
Brooker to take the blame
with the Internal Revenue Service and say Brooker had required students to work on
Miller's campaign.
ORU requires government
students to work on campaigns of their choice for field
experience, he said.
The IRS checked into the
situation and, after ORU answered its questions, told
ORU, "You're fine," Richard
Roberts said.
The report: The lawsuit contains a summary of a report allegedly written by Lindsay
Roberts' sister, Stephanie Cantese, whose job is to report
weekly to Richard Roberts
anything she has heard in the
community, from the City
Council, from the mayor and
elsewhere, he said.
"She writes what she hears
down, whether it's good or
bad, whether it's true or false,"
Richard Roberts said.
Three years ago, when he
received Cantese's report that
contained some of the claims
included in the lawsuit, he
laughed.
"It was so ridiculous, I just
dismissed it out of hand," he
said.
While working on the Miller
campaign, a student was
asked to repair an ORU computer, Tim Brooker said. The
student backed up the computer's files and discovered
the report on the alleged misuse of ORU money, Brooker
said.
Richard Roberts said the report referenced in the lawsuit
was not written in Cantese's
style and contained allegations that Roberts had never
heard, such as his wife's remodeling the house to build a
2,000-square-foot closet.
The allegations that the lawsuit mentions actually were
Cantese's messages to herself
as she was compiling her report, Richard Roberts said.
Their house: Lindsay Roberts told the World and the AP
that said she does not have a
2,000-square-foot closet, as alleged in the lawsuit. She measured it and counted 528
square feet, but she and her
husband were quick to point
out that it serves as storage for
study guides, TV transcripts
and more.
She also said the family
does not have its own soda
vending machine in its garage,
as the lawsuit's summarization
of the report claims. The family does have a mini-fridge.
Vehicles: The report in the
lawsuit also alleges that the
Robertses use vehicles donated for ORU or Oral Roberts
Ministries use. Lindsay Roberts said a friend in Dallas
gave her a Lexus sport utility
vehicle in 2000 and that Richard Roberts bought her a red
Mercedes for her birthday.
"He said, 'Mind you, this is
your birthday present until
you're 67 years old,' " she said
her husband told her.
Clothes: The report in the
lawsuit alleges that university
and ministries employees are
routinely told to charge clothing expenses to the organizations rather than to the Roberts family. The Robertses
said a TV wardrobe is kept by
the ministries for Lindsay
Roberts and that those clothes
remain with the ministries for
use on her TV shows, never
going home with her.
She said employees are adding up her clothing receipts
but have not found her expenses to amount to as much
as the lawsuit claims.
Homework and tutors: Richard Roberts said the report's
claim that ORU and Oral Roberts Ministries employees regularly do their daughters'
homework is "a bunch of balogna."
However, the family has
personally paid for tutors because two of the three Roberts
daughters have dyslexia, like
their mother, the couple said.
Cell phones: The report in
the lawsuit claims that Lindsay Roberts sent text messages to underage males, often
between 1 and 3 a.m. In response, Lindsay Roberts said
one of her daughters uses her
cell phone when the daughter's is broken. Also, the Robertses routinely send one of
their cell phones home with
their daughters' visitors to
make sure the visitors get
home safely. Then they retrieve the phone in the morning, Richard Roberts said.
The Robertses reiterated
that they pay for their personal expenses and said the audit
and compliance committee of
the ORU Board of Regents determines what expenses are
business-related and what are
personal. Personal expenses
are deducted monthly from
Richard Roberts' paycheck,
Lindsay Roberts said. She is
not an ORU employee and,
thus, is not paid by the school.
Oral Roberts himself shared
his reaction to the lawsuit during a telephone interview with
King from his home in California, saying the allegations in
the lawsuit were only "sort of a
shock" to him because "we
have been through some
tough experiences" before.
World staff writer Andrea Eger contributed to this story.
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