Ron T. Howell, Bixby (10/30/2007 3:28:12 AM)

I cant believe this is happening in Oklahoma. This sounds like something that would happen in California of Boulder Colorado. What is up with our Governor? I encourage everyone who is outraged with this issue to call your local representative and call the Governors office and condem his actions and insist that the ethnic council should be overhauled or disbanded. Please also call Rep Reynolds and give him your support. This is a disgrace to all Oklahomans.

Jim M, Tulsa (10/30/2007 6:04:48 AM)

These muslim groups will obtain more credibility when they begin denouncing publicly the attrocities perpetrated by the fascist radicals in their midst. Their silence is deafening!

a, tulsa (10/30/2007 7:02:10 AM)

I can't believe this happening in Oklahoma either-this sounds like something that would happen in....oh, wait, there aren't any more backward states than Oklahoma.

'Muslims haven't had any role in the development of our state or our country'. Are you kidding me??

I want my country back.

Kathy, Tulsa (10/30/2007 7:44:20 AM)

Sounds like the Gov was bought off.

Rex Lindsay, Bixby (10/30/2007 8:09:12 AM)

The whore of babylon mentioned in Revelation has ensnarled Henry. He is drunk with her succulent wines. She is quite real and has a warm home in the governor's office. But the whore is a fickle lady. She will devour him and pass him like a dead rat on the front lawn of the state capitol.

DwightD, Tulsa (10/30/2007 8:44:24 AM)

This whole Quran thing is making me vomit. I am sure that the Muslim group would have welcomed a Bible with open arms or better yet, I am sure they would have taken a Buddha for their Mosque. Get real - they would have slammed any religious book not part of Islam. It sickens me when there are articles written like this that condemn a public official for having some backbone in a period when few even open their mouths against anything. I know there are Muslims in Oklahoma, but their numbers are very small. Their economic impact on our local economy is nothing more than a speed bump. They do contribute, but on a limited scale unlike the scale the media would like us to believe. Why all of a sudden is it ok to accept anything from a religion other than Christianity - the very principles that this country was founded on? I for one am proud of the heritage of our country and it was build by men of courage, principle and the Christian faith, not the Muslim, Buddha, Hindu, Aethist, Wiccan, or Scientology faiths.

Sandra, Shawnee (11/1/2007 2:36:26 PM)

What blessings. What truly deep and precious blessings. Amen. and Amen.

J. Sokoloff, Tahlequah (11/20/2007 2:27:59 AM)

Doesn't surprise me. I get harrassed for being Jewish. I was chewed out at work for wishing customers Happy Holidays rather than Merry Christmas. I have a Star of David pendant I used to wear everyday but now I don't because of the way I get treated when people know I'm Jewish.

It's even worse for Muslims I imagine. What do you expect with all the hate that abounds in the Tulsa area? Artisan Publishers, well known hate group, gets treated just like any old business by Muskogee, listed in the Phoenix and everything. It's sickening. I have only lived here for a year and already I'm so disgusted I can't wait to leave. It's too bad too - this a beautiful state if you don't count the people.

Sandra , (10/31/2007 2:59:52 PM)

Amen! And when anyone does point out the underbelly of Christianity--even if one is themselves a Christian--then they are called anti-religious and Christ-haters. Yeah, see those/us Christians, how we love one another...

LOL, (10/31/2007 3:32:41 PM)

GO Governor Henry, tell Rex Duncan to put it where the sun don't shine! Thank you Sandra for expressing my opinion perfectly. And Amanda #39, I am sorry for you honey. I hope you aren't teaching any of that prejudice crap to your kids. Its people like you that keep hatred and ignorance alive and well. I will pray for you tonight, that you may find wisdom and happiness, and remove the hatred from your heart. In the meantime...go read a book.

Sandra , (10/31/2007 3:51:23 PM)

The face of hate in Oklahoma:

Atoka · Brotherhood of Klans Knights of the Ku Klux Klan

Ku Klux Klan

Bixby · Aryan Nations

Neo-Nazi

· League of the South

Neo-Confederate

Cement · Brotherhood of Klans Knights of the Ku Klux Klan

Ku Klux Klan

Coalgate · Brotherhood of Klans Knights of the Ku Klux Klan

Ku Klux Klan

Hinton · Brotherhood of Klans Knights of the Ku Klux Klan

Ku Klux Klan

Lawton · White Revolution

Neo-Nazi

Moyers · Brotherhood of Klans Knights of the Ku Klux Klan

Ku Klux Klan

Muskogee · Artisan Publishers

Christian Identity

Oklahoma City · National Socialist Movement - NSM

Neo-Nazi

Shawnee · Bayou Knights of the Ku Klux Klan

Ku Klux Klan

Tulsa · American National Socialist Workers' Party

Neo-Nazi

· European-American Unity and Rights Organization

White Nationalist

· Nation of Islam

Black Separatist

· National Socialist Freedom Movement

Neo-Nazi

· National Socialist Movement - NSM

Neo-Nazi

Preacher, Red Bird (10/31/2007 8:38:44 PM)

Just quietly observing just inside the shadows

Is this where our humanity taken us?

I read the original story in the Tulsa World and the following stories of the State officials rapidly denying a well-meant gift simply because they do not believe in the religion.

Therefore, I question is this what our world has reverted to?

Correct me if I am wrong because as a human I will make mistakes.

They were not elected to express personal views when they are representing the Muslims that also live in Oklahoma.

Since these public officials have made such a powerful outcry, we need to stop saying we believe in freedom of religion.

I just continue to quietly observe from the shadow. The day will come when these misused people cry to God will be heard.

However, unlike most, I will not continue to let myself become fooled into thinking that America has changed from the racist 1964 views.

I guess it is evident. They have not.

Will anyone whose forefathers received the okay by the real native Americans to legally cross the border of what use to be another group of independent nations, please raise your hand.

Ouch, that must have really hurt!!!

My forefathers were forced to migrate over here chained to the bottom of a slave ship. Therefore, I do not feel any better that the white man has chosen another race to savagely hang from the racist killing tree.

How many must die before we finally realize this dirt belong to God not us.

I invisibly, quietly wait just inside the shadows, until God empowers my voice to really be heard.

Sincerely,

Preacher

Attention: Please, do not disturb my sleeping alter ego!

P.S. To the Californicator:

That is alright Baby,

My God believes in you.

Oh, no!! My alter ego awakes!!, (10/31/2007 8:44:20 PM)

The upstanding scientists and distinguished philosophers will instruct you that nothing whatsoever can be or has been proven with one hundred percent certainty.

Some even disregards the very existence of

this preeminent sovereign omnipresent Divine creator.

Nevertheless,

I know

without a doubt

that I exist

because of

the exclusively controlling credible

spoken

Word

of

God.

The involvement of God in the development of life on this revolving blue biosphere

is

not speculation,

hypothesis,

theory,

or principle.

His deliberate intricate connection is scientific fact.

Now in the use of the term fact,

the only proper fact in evolution is

as time progressed

the robust pubescent fish evolved

into great majestic whales and every kind of sea animal of the deep blue sea.

The greatest evidence in favor of this highly disputed opinion

is

the voluminous, diverse, and convincing presentation

of the story of creation

in the Holy Scripture.

Immeasurable and consistent is the evidence of the involvement of this preeminent sovereign omnipresent Divine creator in the highly disputed opinion of evolution.

If anyone could positively disprove

his omnipotent involvement,

I would continue to be of the misconception

that

God created everything

just as it is.

And the ending was written before time by God.

(My alter ego returns to peaceful sleep.)

Anonymous, Tulsa (10/31/2007 9:21:05 PM)

Dear Unknown Friend in 47 & 48, I thank you. After a very long and hectic day of work, and facing another night of knowing that my body is one day closer to giving in to the cancer that invades it, I usually have to struggle to turn off my mind and settle down to sleep. Having read your posts, though, I realize that there are those who still have the "faith of a child" and they will someday triumph over the craziness that seems to pervade so much of life. What kind of world would it be if everyone had your kind of faith? What lovely posts to read, just before heading to bed! God bless you and bring you peace -

Michael, St. Louis, MO (10/30/2007 8:31:01 PM)

Obviously there is a disconnect in the discussion. Muslim citizens that pledge allegiance to the U.S. and oppose islamic terrorism are not the enemy. Take a breath. Funny how it's said that the freedom-loving American needs to learn how to co-exist peacefully with the barbaric islamists. I won't condemn my children to that deadly path, no thank you.

Christian Tulsan, tulsa (10/30/2007 9:36:29 PM)

Rocky is right. The governor also has the right to keep an advisory committee if he feels the need. Obviously, he would not get any good advice from the legislators on any issues involving Muslims. And btw, the local Muslim leaders HAVE condemned terrorism, so any deafening silence you might be experiencing is due to their desire for peace and tolerance with those saying they have not.

amanda , porum (10/31/2007 12:54:43 AM)

First, Muslims do not believe in the same God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ because THEY do not believe nor acknowledge Jesus (Isa) as the Son of God, but only as “the son of Mary“; nor that the Jews are the chosen people of GOD. They do believe they are the followers of “the God of this World “ thou. -

- Muslim and Islam are not a race, nationality, ethnic group, nation, nor religion; but a political party, study it’s full history. Look what the Qu’ran really says. -

-Muhammad was only a man (who’s wife was Christian) that tried to combine the Torah and the holy scriptures so the Arab’s could have a single God to help stop the religious conflicts in his land. -

- If it hadn’t been for his family, he would have been killed.-

- His following mainly started with his family and the elite members of the communities.-

- He started with peaceable believes but as his following grew and the Arabs, Jews, and Christians rejected his God and believes, he turned to the sword.-

- With the sword, he forced all those subdued to choose to be a Muslim or die.-

-The Muslim believers dwindled (after Muhammad’s death) and war lords took over the Arab nations.-

-Many years later, it was a war lord and a Muslim that combined forces to create a single Arab nation with the sword (as they do today ) under the disguise of religion. -

Second, I strongly except under our constitution that we have the right to believe (or not) in any God we desire and freedom of religion. I nor any another American DO NOT however have to believe or except any alleged religion or believes including their writings. -

Third, “Beware of Greeks bearing gifts.”

Sandra , (10/31/2007 8:49:02 AM)

Amanda, I think you might want to go back and re-study Islam. You've got a lot of facts dead wrong. Perhaps you were studying from a book written by a biased author. Why not ask as Muslim about their faith? Oh, and if you are wondering how I can say this, well, I have both an undergrad and a grad degree in theology with heavy emphasis on inter-religious studies, including Islam (in a class made of of mostly Muslim students).

SPLC Member, Tulsa (10/31/2007 1:41:34 PM)

What? No response from Amanda? You don't suppose that all these people who are spouting their vast knowledge of the Q'uran and Islam have never actually read or studied it themselves? SURELY they wouldn't jump to such conclusions or turn to such hatred based on hearsay, and not on studying it themselves?

Dismayed , Tulsa (10/31/2007 2:00:10 PM)

#2, and everyone else who slams islam because they dont speak out against terrorism. I havent heard you or any other "Christians" denounce Fred Phelps and the West Burro Baptist church. They are most definitley terrorizing military families at funerals in the name of your religion.

I am glad to see that there are more people denouncing the bigotry and racism of these posts. Maybe there is hope for Oklahoma and america and freedom.

DwightD, Tulsa (10/30/2007 1:06:33 PM)

Let me point out something to everyone. Since all religions of the world believe all non-believers are going to hell, it is safe to assume that we all will end up in the same place. See you in hell dog!

B. Oxford, Fayetteville (10/30/2007 1:54:43 PM)

Being tolerant of other religions doesn't equate to living in the 7th century. Being tolerant of islam doesn't mean our country will convert to sharia law. Muslims are not boogey men! Understanding and tolerating islam doesn't mean the terrorists win!

Michael, St. Louis, MO (10/30/2007 2:29:03 PM)

Tolerating evil is just plain evil. Oh yes, I understand the islamic jihadists. I guess if you can sit back and accept the enslavement of women, women stoned to death for being raped, not to mention flying planes into skyscrapers, etc., etc., then you are probably the most tolerant person I can imagine (and a fool). This isn't about respecting religious beliefs! The terrorists we are fighting against are all muslim and will tell you they will kill you and all infidels. You and your enlightened self say, "Let's talk about it." If you don't defend yourself against the islamicization of Oklahoma then you will deserve credit/blame for when sharia is imposed.

Sam, (10/30/2007 2:48:25 PM)

"If you don't defend yourself against the islamicization of Oklahoma then you will deserve credit/blame for when sharia is imposed."

-

There are plenty of patriots with guns who wouldn't let this country be taken by foreigners. Oh, wait. Isn't that exactly what we're facing in Iraq?

B. Oxford, Fayetteville (10/30/2007 5:01:35 PM)

Who is advocating for tolerance of terrorists? We're talking about American citizens and Oklahomans! Not people who are stoning adulterers, and flying planes into the WTC! The fact that you equate all muslims with terrorists is a problem in and of itself. That problem is called RACISM and IGNORANCE. You have to take one big leap over the tinfoil hat to connect toleration of our fellow AMERICANS with the imposition of sharia law.