Michael, Tulsa (11/1/2007 10:11:04 AM)

You break the law, you go to jail. Not like the person(s) didn't know the law was going into effect...

Dover , (11/1/2007 10:17:32 AM)

Illegals aliens and there co conspirators are not above the law. I expect the police officers to continue to do there job. GOOD WORK officers. You cannot transport criminals in this country. Period. I hope they get the harshest punishments. They really dont want to start a war between them and the police.

B. Oxford, Fayetteville (11/1/2007 10:34:56 AM)

That's actually not true, Dover. This law goes WAY beyond typical aiding and abetting laws. If you rob a bank, I can still give you a ride to the grocery store or let you sleep in my guest room. What I cannot do is actively help you avoid capture. Under this law you cannot give shelter or transport an illegal under any circumstances. So, this law treats illegal immigrants worse than murderers.

Get legal!, (11/1/2007 10:39:50 AM)

Nice choice of headline there TW. When I clicked on this I expected to see a story of a legal who was arrested because they were a suspected illegal. Come to find out (if this story is actually real and Rivera's not just trying to pull a cause out of his A: "Edwards said he wasn't aware of anyone being arrested in Tulsa County for breaking HB 1804 as described by Rivera.") the person was actually arrested for transporting an illegal. Which by the way, IS NOW ILLEGAL HERE.

Get legal!, (11/1/2007 10:42:10 AM)

If only you'd allow us to start treating murderers the way they should be treated too....

JW, (11/1/2007 10:43:46 AM)

Well good. It sounds like the law is already working. I would be willing to let this girlfriend off the hook if she can prove she was transporting her illegal boyfriend out of the state FOR GOOD.

KITTY, MUSKOGEE (11/1/2007 10:43:59 AM)

HOW IS THIS UN-CONSTITUTIONAL, IT IS NOT THEIR CONSTITUTION. THEY ARE ALIENS. IF THEY WANT TO STAY GET LEGAL AND PAY TAXES, I AM SICK OF SUPPORTING LAZY PEOPLE WHO SUCK OFF THE SYSTEM REGARDLES OF ETHNIC BACKGROUND

Ella, Skiatook (11/1/2007 10:45:31 AM)

Actually, Oxford, you're wrong. If you rob a bank and I know it, it *is* illegal for me to drive you to the grocery store or let you sleep in my house. That is, in fact, the definition of aiding and abetting - it's not about abetting the *crime*, it's about abetting the *criminal*. These people are knowlingly and flagrantly helping criminals circumvent the law. I'm not going to cry any tears over that.

My favorite part of the story, though, was the preacher claiming that if he got arrested, he would continue to "fight the law" in jail. Yeah, that's exactly the kind of minister we need working, and that's exactly the kind of attitude that says "I want to be a vital part of this community." Nothing says good relations like rebelling against the law to protect avowed criminals at the expense of the (real) citizenry.

Larry, Tulsa (11/1/2007 10:46:47 AM)

it's always been illegal to knowingly transport illegals. this law has not made anything illegal that wasn't illegal before.

Dillina, Tulsa (11/1/2007 10:47:32 AM)

It is about time that we stood up for your country. Soliders are fighting for our freedom and we are letting others take over while they are gone. This is America we speak english and we fly the AMERICAN FLAG! The schools will save alot of money when we go back to printing everything in english. This is a good law. Illegal aliens are not under our constitution until they become Americans.

Christopher Columbus, Tulsa (11/1/2007 10:48:22 AM)

We need to go back and learn American History! How do you think we got America? We invaded the land and claimed ours. Enough about these Illegal Alien crap!

William, Tulsa (11/1/2007 10:52:52 AM)

It is a shame that people with no knowledge of the law make comments like "get legal" just for your information "you can't" it is not a matter of following the law or not, this ilegal inmigrants where lured to come for the american dream, they are not lazys, thats way our profitable companies bring them, is to work for cheap salaries and do work that most of you don't want to do, so educate yourselves before showing the hate in your heart toward people that you don't even know. I will love to have all this people with such hurry to judge others become an "Ilegal inmigrant" for a year and then we acn listen to their comments on the matter, have a blessed day !

The Oracle, Tulsa (11/1/2007 10:52:57 AM)

If the "reverends" are violating the law then they should be arrested and charged.They should also lose their tax-exempt status.How long are we as taxpayers going to allow so called "reverends" to beg for donations and still remain tax exempt.

Angela, Tulsa (11/1/2007 10:55:42 AM)

This law is unconstitutional. I hope the judge finds it so. What about those Americans in Tulsa who are legally married to an illegal immigrant? The law doesn't account for these families now! Do they go to jail now for being caught in the same car with their spouse? ridiculous. These Tulsa laws are breaking up families. Illegal and immoral... Tulsa World - I'd love for you to do a story on that. I have examples for you!

Charles, Tulsa (11/1/2007 10:55:44 AM)

The so-called ministers are just cheap fearmongering race hustlers.They will do and say anything to remain in the spotlight and retain their illicit members.I love HB1804.Illegals bring gangs,drugs ands violence.the people have spoken--this is democracy.So,illegals pack up and get out.You are NOT wanted.

Katie C., Tulsa (11/1/2007 10:55:56 AM)

To all the illegal aliens who are now worried about their status in this country: instead of fighting our laws tooth and nail and lobbying in our courts (who apparently don't have any patience with your whining, anyway, if Judge Payne is any indication), here's a novel idea. IF YOU WANT TO BE CONSIDERED AN AMERICAN, THEN YOU NEED TO START FOLLOWING THE AMERICAN LAWS LIKE EVERY OTHER AMERICAN HAS TO. I'm sorry, people, but there is no such thing as "cafeteria Patriotism" in this country. ALL AMERICANS ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR FOLLOWING AMERICAN LAW. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, THEN BE QUIET AND GO HOME.

Jim Gemmill, Garland, Tx (11/1/2007 10:56:51 AM)

While the Headline is true, it sounds like the police did something wrong. When you read the details in the article, the law WORKS.

Why do ILLEGALS IGNORE our laws about Immigration, and INSIST we must obey the law as they see it.

Sick and Tired, Tulsa (11/1/2007 10:57:51 AM)

Good Going Officers! It's about time that something is done about the illegals and the crime affliated with their presence.

GOD BLESS AMERICA not Mexico!

Big Tex, Dallas (11/1/2007 10:58:24 AM)

Imagine how this story would read if the illegal in question was from Pakistan or Saudi Arabia, etc. The law is the law, folks. For once listen to reason and put your emotions aside.

Dee, Bristow (11/1/2007 10:58:32 AM)

I am so PROUD of you OKLAHOMA LEGAL AMERICANS.

Our voices need to ring LOUDER with OUR support.

Yes - these so called leaders need to help their people or any person that is not here legally to the DOOR of the office to GET LEGAL.

I would think that they would be falling over each other to get LEGAL. So they could stay here and continue their lives. And HOW long have they been here and had plenty of time to make it happen.

RICK, SAND SPRINGS (11/1/2007 11:00:56 AM)

Send them all packing.Stay the course and this country will get back to normal. Who said we need to take care of the world. Oh YA, I forgot, Hilary needs her village.

Joy Mayes, Tulsa (11/1/2007 11:01:21 AM)

1804 is all about racism. I don't see any criminal act or "breaking the law" issue in hard working people with a strong family values as the Hispanics.

me, tulsa, (11/1/2007 11:04:25 AM)

"Don't trust the police, advocates tell Hispanic community." With that philosophy then we shouldn’t trust ANYONE for just doing their JOB. What is it that the Hispanic community doesn't understand about the LAW? Now I understand, it affects them.

Become a law abiding citizen within the system. WELCOME TO AMERICA…

Dora, Tulsa (11/1/2007 11:04:32 AM)

To "The Oracle's" comment:

if law of the land starts to invade upon God's law, the reverend has a moral responsibility to do what is morally right! I'm glad he is. This law is unconstitutional. Politicians are turning a blind eye on what this is doing to Oklahoma families. Thank you William for your comment too!

Katie C., Tulsa (11/1/2007 11:07:18 AM)

To Angela, Post #14: Let me explain something to you, hon. This law is NOT unconstitutional. The U.S. Constitution applies ONLY to AMERICAN CITIZENS. Illegal aliens are NOT American citizens, therefore they HAVE no constitutional rights to BE violated in the first place. This law is NOT breaking up Hispanic families. The truth is that the Hispanics who refuse to follow our laws and live in this country LEGALLY LIKE EVERY OTHER IMMIGRANT IN UNITED STATES HISTORY HAS ALWAYS HAD TO are doing THAT to THEIR OWN FAMILIES. If that's a problem for you, then maybe you should consider going back to Mexico with everybody ELSE who has a problem with it.