Brian , Tulsa (11/3/2007 2:16:11 AM)

I think the new law is a good and if they want to be legal citizens thats fine and they need to learn english to.

Katie C., Tulsa (11/3/2007 2:26:25 AM)

Of COURSE the Hispanics claim targeting. I certainly hope THAT doesn't come as a surprise, folks. To the Hispanic Community, especially those who needlessly stress out about being "targeted": our laws that govern living and working in this country illegally -- spelled out, that means "you are NOT either a natural-born or naturalized American citizen -- are very clear. Yes, the citizenship process can be very long and complicated, but here's the key, folks: YOU DON'T WAIT UNTIL YOU'RE ALREADY IN LEGAL TROUBLE WITH THE POLICE TO GET THE PROCESS STARTED. Here's the point, people: our police and other officials may not be able to make you follow our laws to begin with, but if you get caught living and working in the state of Oklahoma without being able to produce the proper documentation, they can certainly make you wish you had. To all the Hispanics who want to whine about being targeted: if you're NOT legal, then you need to start taking steps to get that way. If you ARE legal, then quit worrying about it. If you follow the law and do what you're supposed to, then you have nothing to worry about. If you don't, you're eventually going to be discovered and deported. That's called screwing YOURSELF and, unfortunately, no amount of whining or disrespecting American law is going to change that fact. It's up to the Hispanic communities in this country to decide for themselves what happens to the people are members of those communities. If you want to stay here, then do it legally. If you don't, then go back to Mexico -- and take your whining with you.

Michael, Tulsa (11/3/2007 2:31:35 AM)

Why dont we just call this new law what it is a buch of bull. There is only one difference in what we are doing now and what Hittler did and that is we are not killing them just because they are not legal. If you want to stop and think about it the only people who are legal here are the natavie americans. So why dont we pass a law and send every person who is not an Indain packing and tell them to get out of our state. The people were not hurting anyone they had a job made money and spent there money that was a plus to our ecomoy. Now what do you think is going to happen. Nothing good I can tell you that.

wmb, (11/3/2007 2:33:04 AM)

I certainly hope the Police are not doing racial profiling. However, that does not in any case, excuse those here illegally. Indeed, the racial profiling, if any exists, could not have occurrred if they had not broken the law first.

While I sympathize with those legally here on having friends, or family deported, that again gives them no excuse for breaking the law. Indeed isn't transporting, harboring, part of the federal immigration law too? Those here legally also have an obligation to follow our laws.

wmb, (11/3/2007 2:42:30 AM)

OP 3:

Regarding the comment quoted below. There are vitually no countries in the world without immigration laws at this point. Many, indeed most, have stricter immigration laws as well as stricter nationality laws. As we line in a great and free country, although it does have its problems, you can freely state your view. However, I believe it is irresponsible for us to not have and enforce immigration law as well as base that law upon the needs of our Nation. If you were ever to research history of this country and other countries you would find that when a nation works for its citizens is when it is best. All nations working for their citizens would make the world a much better place.

"Why dont we just call this new law what it is a buch of bull. There is only one difference in what we are doing now and what Hittler did and that is we are not killing them just because they are not legal."

The Oracle, Tulsa (11/3/2007 5:07:31 AM)

Let us all support more and more checkpoints by The County Sherrif and the Tulsa Police Department.This will identify those who drive with no license and no insurance.If the "reverands" use their position to encourage illegal activity,then take away their tax-exempt status and put them in jail if they harbor law breakers.

Old Rusty, tulsa (11/3/2007 5:59:35 AM)

After we The USA, lost the Vietnamese war, thousands of so called refugees,boat people, came to our soil,With out computers the INS was able to process these people and grant them citizenship quickly,.I do not support the sheriffs office conducting road blocks, checking for no drivers license and insurance,this ruse is looking for illegals,.I think the mandatory auto liability insurance is a scam,perpeturated by insurance companies.

Jim M, Tulsa (11/3/2007 6:30:16 AM)

More leftist, pro-illegal, drivel from the Tulsa World!

AM, Tulsa (11/3/2007 6:44:42 AM)

To #2, clearly you do not know much about the process to become a citizen. Those who have started the process 4 years ago are still waiting for papers. Those who have not have been issued tax ID numbers by our government to open bank accounts and buy houses and PAY TAXES! The government has failed to handle the volume if immigrants and has created this back log. The new law is a knee jerk move to make Oklahomas un educated voters happy. It does not address the issue or fix anything. We will all feel the effects of this loss of labor, loss of sales tax and many are and will suffer. Law enforcement is stuck enforcing something that does not make sense and they know it. The problem is a national problem with immigrantion and our state elected official have simply compounded the problem.

Dover , (11/3/2007 6:52:04 AM)

I have encountered many roadside check points where traffic was lined up with officers checking license and insurance. This is perfectly acceptable. Drunks, unlicensed drivers, uninsured drivers have a reason to think twice if they know officers will be doing this. It keeps everyone on their toes and thinking twice. I dont think they are targeting anyone in specific and no one can prove they are. You basically could say they are targetting anyone who is driving illegal. Unfortunately illegal aliens are driving illegal so I guess illegals, drunk drivers, unlicensed drivers and uninsured drivers, are targeted. SO nothing wrong with that. OH yea and lets not forget expired tags. Rev. and his illegal buddies are just causing chaos and trying to make a point but you know what it wont work. Politicians and lawmakers will see right through their juvenile tactics.

Kevin, Tulsa (11/3/2007 6:53:25 AM)

Victor Orta ans Miguel Rivera are stirring the pot, creating hysteria. If they don't the illegals will stop filling thier wallets because they think these idiots are working for them.

*****, (11/3/2007 6:54:51 AM)

I really really really hope they dont show anymore close ups of Rev. Victor Orta in the paper or on tv anymore. Has he ever heard of eyebrow waxing? Or maybe getting some dentures on top.

kuntrykuzzin, (11/3/2007 6:56:13 AM)

"OLD RUSTY"

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Are you off your ever lovin' rocker??

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It's like this, My kids are fighting and my son halls off and smacks his sister in the face! He says; "Well she hit me last week!" Now, I didn't see that happen last week and I can't very well punish her based on "hearsay" but I did however witness my sons actions and he will be dealt with appropriately! So, the issue today is not how the vietnamese refugees got here but how are we going to deal with the current immigration problems.

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Have you ever been involved in any kind of accident with someone who is not insured? It doesn't matter if they are legal or illegal! The LAW requires that a driver has at least "Liabilty Insurance Coverage" on their vehicle.

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Just as in the case of "Legal Citizenship" The LAW requires that a person be able to document that they are here in this country legally.

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How many times do you think (just for the sake of the argument, lets use a mexican for example) that there is a crime committed by lets say juan vasquez, well mr. vasquez is here illegally and because of his current misfortunes, he is going back to mexico to visit his wife and kids until he feels it is safe to return. If a traffic check point should catch such a person, than that's good news because otherwise, ultimately, you and I have to pay for the trouble that they have caused. The last time I checked, a good ol' boy who is not playin' by the rules has just as much of a chance of gettin' caught in a road block as does mr vasquez!

GEORGE, TULSA (11/3/2007 7:19:57 AM)

HAPPINESS IS:

An illegally tagged car with no insurance and a non tax paying family of illegal immigrants going south crossing the Red River.

C.G., Tulsa (11/3/2007 7:20:19 AM)

It is my hope that the authorities will step up and conduct more driver license checkpoints. That will rid us of illegals and all the citizens who do not belong in traffic.

Mr. Orta needs to stop assaulting us with his brand of justice. Enough already!

E T, tulsa (11/3/2007 7:35:12 AM)

i think michael must be a mexican

kuntakentae, n. tulsa (11/3/2007 8:04:37 AM)

my, my. Tulsa shoe is full a hate. If yall hate the Mexicans this bad, can you imagine how much fun you would have if you could kick out my black brothers with all of our dope dealing, straling, gang banging, and slouching pants? We don't pay taxes on what we steal or make off of dope dealing to u po white trash. And you whiteys quake when you see us coming toward you on the street or in a store. Yet you wont stand up to us. But boy you sho does hate the Taco benders. And about free government cheeese. Us darkies get more than any of those mexicanos ever planned on. Mexicans came here poor, got jobs, and changed their lives. You whities sho do eat at their restaurants. -

lee, ba (11/3/2007 8:11:24 AM)

#18- We already did are extermination of your black ancestores in the race riots, but you all came back! We will get back around to you after we extract he beeeners. Keep up the great work on your ebonics. Oh by the way come to BA and see how afraid these crckers are of you.

bkt, Tulsa (11/3/2007 8:13:19 AM)

#18 you are a bigot and don't try to pretend to be black & learn to spell kunta kente.

bkt, Tulsa (11/3/2007 8:16:15 AM)

I realize people hide behind postings. I hope #19 is not one of many people I;m friends with from Broken Arrow. Bigotry cannot be tolerated by any race. It doesn't shock me what people say when they can say it behind closed doors. Look at the Dog but he didn't mean it. Yeah right.

Mel, (11/3/2007 8:30:16 AM)

Rev. orta, Jackson, Sharpton, etc. are all "Race Baiters". They don't help anyone except themselves. When will people wake up to that fact?

If you are here illegally, you have no gripes, it was your decision to come here.

I have the utmost respect for the Mexicans who have come to this country legally and for those who are presently going through the process to become US citizens. Great people,

PrairieGirl, Inola (11/3/2007 8:32:31 AM)

I think the mandatory auto liability insurance is a scam,perpeturated by insurance companies.

YOU are the reason it is a mandatory law! I suppose you have $5000+ to fix my car if you hit it? Or will you just run like they do in Mexico where an accident is a felony, so if you can still move - run away?

this just in, l.a. (11/3/2007 8:50:32 AM)

Murderers, rapist, burgalers, report that they are being singled out during recent raids on felons... this is unaccepteable...this is racist, this is profiling... blah blah bla blah... dont be a criminal in these United States and you dont have to worry about the Policia

MAC, San Diego/Tulsa (11/3/2007 8:53:20 AM)

Attention Kmart shoppers,

If a blonde haired, blue eyed illegal Canadian gets caught up in a check point they will get deported just as fast. Playing the race card is a sign it's all you got and you know you are in the wrong.

Oklahoma is full of racist, (11/3/2007 8:54:12 AM)

What are they doing at these check points? They are arresting any illegals who are trying to leave the state. Not only do they arrest them but they are confiscating their vehicles and all teir possesions untill they can prove legal status. So you want them gone; they are leaving, you stop and arrest them and steal all their stuff. That is Oklahoma justice for you. Rep Terril is Hitler reincarnated and you are his Nazis spreading his hate.