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Wal-Mart plan sinks

Tulsa World

 
By P.J. LASSEK World Staff Writer
Published: 11/9/2007  1:41 AM
Last Modified: 11/9/2007  1:41 AM

A downtown project is derailed by the decision to reduce the number of supercenters being built.

An urban-designed Wal-Mart Supercenter proposed for the eastern part of downtown has been scrapped, killing a proposal to redevelop the East Village, officials said Thursday.

News that Wal-Mart will not build a supercenter downtown -- or anywhere in Tulsa -- shocked developers who were planning it as an anchor tenant for a proposed mixed-use redevelopment project.

John Williams, one of the principal developers of the East Village area, said Thursday that he was notified Monday night of Wal-Mart's decision.

He said his partner, Tom Seay of Arkansas, told him, " 'You're not going to believe what happened. Our deal, it looks like it's dead.'

"I was truly shocked. I've been working on this for 18 months," Williams said.

Seay said he doesn't know what will happen now with the property that has been secured. He said he has several hundred thousand dollars invested in the project.

Tulsa is one of many cities across the nation hit by Wal-Mart's move to reduce the number of new supercenters it constructs nationwide, said Angela Stoner, Wal-Mart's senior manager of public affairs.

"This is no reflection on the confidence Wal-Mart has in our friends in the development team of the East Village, the mayor, the City Council, neighbors or others involved in this project," Stoner said Thursday.

"This is the execution of a national growth strategy plan -- a corporate decision," she said.

The plan is specific only to new supercenters, she said, and none is planned for Tulsa.

Although Wal-Mart had announced its reduction plan in June, it had also approved the construction of the proposed supercenter for the East Village, which resulted in the developers announcing the project in August.

Stoner said an Oct. 23 meeting to review the strategy plan led to the corporate decision affecting Tulsa, which was announced this week to developers and city officials.

Stoner said it is too early to know what the next step for Wal-Mart will be in Tulsa.

"What is great about Wal-Mart is that we're always looking for new opportunities," she said. "Our focus is on better serving our customers and providing community support."

Williams and Seay have purchase options on about 15 acres of land in east downtown owned by Bill White, owner of a former car dealership, and the Nordam Group, an aerospace component manufacturer.

The property sits between Frankfort Avenue and U.S. 75 between Fourth and Sixth streets.

Jay Helm, president of American Residential Group of Tulsa, also announced in August that his firm would join the Williams and Seay project to construct 150 high-quality apartments.

"Obviously this news has caught us all by surprise," Helm said. "It's business and they have to do what they have to do, but it's frustrating."

Helm said the developers were ready to move on the project and the city was about ready to go.

"Now it's over. It's too bad for Tulsa," he said.

Seay said he and Williams had built a great relationship with the city and had anticipated approval of tax-increment financing needed to move the project.

"Wal-Mart's decision was totally independent of us and the city," he said. "Anyone that works in corporate life has been through decisions similar to this, and they know these things happen."

Seay said it is now "just a matter of figuring out how to make the best of what is a difficult situation and I'm not sure how to do that, but I'm working on it."

Economic Development Director Don Himelfarb said the city has spoken to all of the principals "and we are actively engaged in trying to make something happen on the east side of downtown."

Himelfarb would not say whether the East Village area would again be considered as a possible future home for the Tulsa Drillers.

In the summer of 2006, Global Development of Washington, D.C., proposed transforming 34 acres, which included the parcels now under option with Seay and Williams, into a mixed-use development that would include a new minor-league baseball stadium to house the Drillers.

Global had issues with some of the land purchases, allowing Williams to come in and negotiate sale contracts on land Global had planned for the stadium.


P.J. Lassek 581-8382
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By P.J. LASSEK World Staff Writer

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The Oracle, Tulsa (11/9/2007 3:56:59 AM)
Contact Target.There could possibly be a huge customer base downtown.
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Ron T. howell, Bixby (11/9/2007 5:17:34 AM)
The City of Tulsa needs to focus on getting more Hotels,Restraunts, & up scale stores Downtown so no walmart is a blessing. If the BOK center is going to be successful you need hotels and dinning. Get a big Reasors Market.
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Stacy Richardson, Tulsa (11/9/2007 5:27:00 AM)
Does anybody know how to come to grips with sizes smaller than "humongous"? We don't need even a big Reasor's or Target downtown. What is eventually needed: smaller grocery stores -- no larger than the size of the old Safeway/Homeland at 11th & Denver -- in each of the downtown areas with sufficient residential development. That means a grocery store in the Brady District, another on the west side of downtown, and, in due course, one on the east side of downtown. The goal should be for downtown residents to be able to walk to the grocery store.
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***** , (11/9/2007 6:03:59 AM)
i guess the arena is all that is going to be there. I wont. Dont like that part of town and unless they move a huge country and western dance hall downtown i wont go near that part of the eeewwwwww city
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joe below, (11/9/2007 6:04:52 AM)
Smart Walmart. If tulsans don't want to invest in their city, why should Walmart?
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AM, Tulsa (11/9/2007 6:10:48 AM)
I bet Roscoe Turner is writing up his speech now. It's racisim and Jessie Jackson and Al Sparpton are on their way to Tulsa!
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Blue light special, (11/9/2007 9:17:14 PM)
Does this mean we don't have to move city hall???
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Mar, Tulsa (11/9/2007 10:01:48 PM)
I used to live near Wichita but moved back to Tulsa a couple of years ago. So, #101 is correct. Also, has anyone on these comments ever been to Wichita besides #101 & #16? Wichita has a butt-ugly downtown, the tallest building there might be 14 stores. Tulsa has a beautiful and unique downtown. Goodbyeeeeee Wally World. :)
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Doc Smarba, Broken Arrow (11/10/2007 9:59:33 AM)
Dear SJ - Google "Mexico" and "murder". You'll find plenty of facts.

Dear John - if you want to live the part of the city with the highest murder rate, good luck to you!

Dear Davy Crotchey - wow, you got me there! Congratulations!

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Best regards, Doc

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jo beaver, (11/10/2007 10:30:57 AM)
why not just build another warehouse in place of wal-mart that is all walmart is jsut another warehouse, and it looks like a warehouse anyway.
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amy, tulsa (11/10/2007 2:25:31 PM)
Kids,kids. Play nice or go home.
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John, downtown Tulsa, OK (11/10/2007 6:55:18 PM)
Doc,

What part of ZERO do you fail to comprehend??? I live downtown. I don't live in north tulsa, which is where all these murders you cite happen.

On the TPD crime map there were ZERO murders downtown during 2005. ZERO!

Please, with your infinite wisdom, tell me how ZERO is a high murder rate.

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Remember you VOTED her into office, (11/9/2007 6:04:32 PM)
Wal-mart must have met our Mayor!!!
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John, downtown Tulsa, OK (11/9/2007 6:23:30 PM)
Hey Doc,

No need to skew facts to support your misguided opinion. Who cares about murders near downtown. There were ZERO murders in downtown (within the IDL) in 2005.

Just go ahead and admit that you're frightened by people with different skin colors and incomes than you.

I walk home at midnight every night right by the YMCA and have never once even been bothered. The homeless are harmless.

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Davy Crotchety, Tulsa (11/9/2007 6:55:06 PM)
Doc, I've heard dial tones that are funnier than you. I'd like to see things from your point of view but I can't seem to get my head that far up my *ss.
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Celine, Montreal (11/9/2007 7:53:02 PM)
East Village is the perfect place to relocate the Homeless so the new BOK Center can be successful.

They could also move the Downtown YMCA there and also open a Army Surplus store so the homeless can get employment.

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I finally like Doc, (11/9/2007 8:09:57 PM)
Doc, that has to be the best comment by you thus far by a longshot! I may make that into a t-shirt...
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EBB, (11/9/2007 8:13:39 PM)
I live near downtown and yes, I purchased a house on purpose in this area (I honestly get asked that!). I would love downtown to become a "destination" again. Having a local grocery store downtown would be a huge thing, not only for the people who live there, but also for the visitors who come for events and conventions. Not that I really wanted a WalMart there, but we need somewhere that will allow people to get the necessities without driving long distances to do so. With rising fuel costs (seriously, we're never going to see gas go under $1.50 again) it makes sense to live closer to where you work.
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investor, (11/9/2007 4:36:21 PM)
Remember-

linton used to be a director on Wal Mart's Board.

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investor, (11/9/2007 4:37:32 PM)
My comment didn't come out-

Remember

Hillary Clinton used to be a director on Wal Mart's board of directors.

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kenyon, riverside (11/9/2007 4:45:14 PM)
bring back laforturne, a weathy son... we'll be fine, seriously

by the way when is her reelection

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Eilleen , Wichita (11/9/2007 5:24:01 PM)
Andron #16 you just came back from Wichita and they have a lot of "fun" projects that don't include Wal Mart. I live in Wichita what fun projects? They have to subsidize Gander Mountain to keep it open. They finally got a destination type restaurant to come to the Waterwalk project. It looks interesting but the project does not bring people downtown. They wanted a Cheesecake Factory but there is not enough income in the area to qualify. By the way, Tulsa has a Cheesecake Factory. Tulsa meets their economic specifications. They are fighting over their arena project and it is 3 years behind the BOK Center. People here are not forward thinking they are always trying to play catch up with all the cities around them. They had the opportunity to build the Kansas Speedway just north of Wichita. They said we don't want those kinds of people here so we don't want the racetrack. What kind of people? The kind that spend money. That would be like having a PGA tournament every year. Think of the economic impact. So, the track went to the Kansas City suburbs. Fantastic growth. Please don't insult Tulsa by saying it should do what Wichita is doing. Wichita can't hold a candle to the development and growth in my hometown.
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SJ, Tulsa (11/9/2007 5:35:53 PM)
Well Doc;

I am sure that an educated racist such as yourself can provide us with the figures you are using and where they can be verified. Please, just the facts and where those facts are located.

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Matt, Owasso (11/9/2007 5:49:25 PM)
The only thing downtown needs is a methadone clinic....and maybe more empty buildings for homeless people to lay around in
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SJ, tulsa (11/9/2007 3:53:11 PM)
Dear Doc;

Regarding your comment #9. You are a racist in every since of the word. Speaking of moving non-Americans out of the country, please move your unpatriotic ^$% somewhere else. It is ignorant, uneducated hicks such as yourself that gives even bigots a bad name!name

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