Jim M, Tulsa (11/12/2007 5:17:21 AM)

Hopefully HB 1804 will pressure the drug suppliers out of state. Maybe other states will adopt 1804-like measures. We need to rid these slimeballs from Oklahoma and the US.

~sojourner, Adair (11/12/2007 5:26:42 AM)

I think 20 years from now when all these users are getting old, we are going to have alot of crazy folks out here who's brains are toast. It's not going to be pretty. We need to get the word out to the little kids that meth melts brain cells and turns the brain to mush! Once those brain cells are destroyed, you can never get them back!

******, (11/12/2007 6:42:48 AM)

This drug is nothing new here #2. We already have a lot of crazy folks around and it doesnt stop these kids from doing it. We need to shut that border down completely. Bush and the government officials are all for keeping open trade. Well I guess they got it didnt they. Build the wall and get it over with. That will most certainly help our children, and seems to be the only way!

Lizard King, BA (11/12/2007 8:09:18 AM)

How can you people be so heartless? These hard working illegal alien drug-runners are just trying to better themselves by doing a job most Americans are unwilling to do. [tongue planted firmly in cheek]

lola, (11/12/2007 8:44:41 AM)

drug users will come up with a new drug-just give them time

Fed Up, Tulsa (11/12/2007 8:50:26 AM)

Is this the ONE article I asked for that actually reports the "other" side of illegal immigration?

John, (11/12/2007 9:26:37 AM)

Isn't it amazing the far reaching effects of enforcing laws can benefit our country?

Liza, Tulsa (11/12/2007 10:07:51 AM)

OMG!! I can't believe some people think that by shutting dow the borders the US will not have DRUG PROBLEMS anymore... HAHAHA

Bill, (11/12/2007 10:51:41 AM)

I'm won't jump on the meth demonization bandwagon because I have ADD and use amphetamine legally by prescription. Meth is used to legally treat ADD also. Needless to say, I don't necessarily think that meth is the devil incarnate though I do acknowledge it's abuse potential is very high on the street.

Regardless, am glad to see that Oklahoma is leading the way in protecting it's citizens against this invasion. 1804 survived on 11th hour attack in federal court and hopefully it will survive others. Other states are looking at it very closely now as a model for their own legislation. Kudos to Terrill for doing the job that most legislators won't do; that being introducing solidly grounded, constitutionally friendly law that protects Oklahoma and U.S. Citizens. Hang in there Terrill.

arby, (11/12/2007 11:09:39 AM)

Another positive result from HB 1804

Maybe the so-called "reverends" fighting HB 1804 have other agendas too?

Davy, (11/12/2007 11:10:03 AM)

No, it won't solve the drug problems. Not when we have "legal" pharmaceutical drugs, such as the highly addictive Oxycontin being prescribed by many doctors and "pain management clinics". And yes, I do know what I am talking about. I have more than two friends/relatives who were in accidents and "the good doctors" kept prescribing higher dosages of the painkillers when their bodies were used to the current dosage. I was shocked the first time I saw him after he took exactly what his doctor has prescribed. Something just wasn't right. The 160 mg he had been prescribed is no longer available yet his body continues to crave that much at a time. Out of control, snorting it to get the euphoric high that his body craves quicker and he will steal and do whatever it takes to temporarily satisfy the craving for this opioid. (In 26 states the attorneys general sued the manufacturer, Purdue Pharma and won 634.5 million for misleading the public about the painkiller's risk of addiction. --NOT SURE WHY OKLAHOMA DIDN'T.)

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All this to say that there are other drugs out there that will still be with us.

mdc, Broken Arrow (11/12/2007 11:16:27 AM)

Yes... there will be other drugs, and Yes... there will be other people besides illegal immigrants committing crimes.

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But, this is definitely a step in the right direction. A 10-15% decrease is huge.

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Thank you HB 1804.

mj, Tulsa (11/12/2007 11:16:46 AM)

#8 - Liza , There will always be drug issues in our country, but securinging our borders will certainly LESSEN alot of the incoming contraband brought by individual "mules" . As the cartels confront barriers of all kinds; physical & otherwise (more agents), violence is sure to follow as they continue to push their commodities northward. It is certainly not a cureall, but it is part of an entire range of methods to combat the problem.

Liza, (11/12/2007 11:29:26 AM)

#13- mj I totally agree with you. It will help some but will NOT eliminate this drug problem.

Kevin, Claremore (11/12/2007 11:35:54 AM)

# 10 - I've often wondered what the real motivation for the Rev.'s was and this just might be it ?

Native American, (11/12/2007 11:50:10 AM)

Sen. Inhofe voted for NAFTA & CAFTA which eliminates the borders!

Kit, Tulsa (11/12/2007 12:02:45 PM)

#11, oxycontin is an excellent pain relief drug, but if a person has been on high dosages, it's normal for them to become dependent on it. Not addicted, but dependent, in which case the doctor needs to gradually withdraw the patient by reducing the dose in stages while substituting other pain relief drugs if the patient still claims pain. I've seen numerous patients successfully withdrawn in hospital and shortly after discharge. If there are psychological factors operating, the person may go out of his way to try to get more of the drug, but usually the dosage reduction works. If the doctor doesn't do this, and attempts to withdraw the drug all at once, some patients may try to get the drug thru other means or by doctor shopping. Maybe your friends need to find a doctor who knows the withdrawal process and can help.

voter, (11/12/2007 12:30:59 PM)

#16 don't forget that Pres. Clinton signed the Nafta bill!

Jenny, (11/12/2007 12:32:16 PM)

The point is that the immigration law also has the positive affect of reducing the numbers of those who are in OK peddling meth and other drugs.

I've got news for the pro-illegal lobby, we know that our immigration laws are not broken, they've only not been enforced, but we're changing that and so will the rest of the country. The people are speaking. Even in NY, it's looking more likely that there will be NO licenses for illegals.

We shall overcome, and those illegals who refuse to self deport, will be going to jail, fined and then deported.

No benefits, no social services, no nothing for illegals.

David, Broken Arrow (11/12/2007 12:33:34 PM)

True it won't solve the drug problem but it will at least make it a little harder for Mexican drug lords to peddle their wares here in Oklahoma.

arby, (11/12/2007 1:00:35 PM)

in addition to sending the illegal aliens back south of our border, we could also send our drug addicts- they could then do the "work" (take drugs) that the Mexicans refuse to do themseolves- a win-win situation

MAC, Tulsa/San Diego (11/12/2007 2:11:09 PM)

Who can argue with cold numbers of 15%? Bravo! Keep hard at HB1804 and it might reach 50%.

This is nothing but good news.

earl cornheiser, billings (11/12/2007 2:24:17 PM)

We face a grave problem in providing adequate homes for our population of migrant workers. The United Auto Workers Association has been kind enough to open up their flop houses near the G.M. plant for the time being. These facilities will ensure that our workers are provided an environment that is familiar to that of their home countries, but also a place that is easily modifiiable to suit their primative and barbaric needs.

We anticipate an estimated 7,000 workers to arrive by early August. Many union members have already prepared toolsheds, and septic tanks to house some of the Lord's workers. "We are almost certain that most of our laborers will be provided at least a sheet, and a toilet." Governor Henry stated from the fourth floor of the capitol. "We pray that some of our members will find it in their hearts to open up a place on the kitchen floor for a Champion builder, at least afor a night or two."

Edward, Tulsa (11/12/2007 3:16:01 PM)

An appropriate headline for this story would have been--HB1804 leads to big meth drop.At least the politically correct media is having to cover the numerous positive effects of our wonderful HB1804.Illegal aliens leave state meth problem decreases.

Patrick, Tulsa (11/12/2007 3:21:38 PM)

Illegal aliens bring drugs to our state.If we want to stop the drug problem we must kick the aliens out of our state.I love HB1804 and Randy Terrill.Most of the met comes from Mexico.