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ORU mum on details of meeting
RESIGNED
Roberts:
He remains the head of the Oral Roberts Evangelistic Association.
By ZIVA BRANSTETTER World Projects Editor
Published:
11/27/2007 1:14 AM
Last Modified: 11/27/2007 11:02 AM
For more:
Read the latest ORU stories, view the lawsuit and other documents and watch slide shows and video.
The regents' meeting follows Richard Roberts' resignation on Friday as ORU president.
Despite calls from faculty for greater transparency at Oral Roberts University, officials there clamped down on information Monday, refusing to release even the most basic details about a board of regents meeting.
Jeremy Burton, a spokesman for ORU, refused to respond to questions from the Tulsa World, including who attended the meeting, where it was held and what items are on the agenda.
Burton said the university would release information Tuesday, at the conclusion of the two-day regents meeting.
The regents meeting follows Friday's resignation by Richard Roberts as president of ORU. Roberts remains as president and chief executive officer of Oral Roberts Evangelistic Association.
Roberts has been on leave since Oct. 17 during an investigation that he and his family misspent universi ty and ministry resources. Many of the claims are contained in a lawsuit filed Oct. 2 by three former professors.
The regents were expected to discuss the search process and a replacement for Roberts. Regents were also expected to hear the results of an
outside investigation into allegations that Roberts and his family misspent university and ministry resources.
Last week, faculty members completed a survey regarding ORU's leadership, its policies and related issues. More than 80 percent said they did not want Roberts to return as president and nearly 90 percent of the faculty thought the school's current procedures for financial disclosure and accountability were inadequate.
Three of the regents are under investigation by the U.S. Senate: Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn and Creflo Dollar. They were among six televangelists who received letters from Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley, the top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee.
Grassley's letter asked the ministers to answer questions about their compensation, housing allowances, luxury cars, private jets and other items.
Bishop Carlton Pearson, who served for 15 years on ORU's board of regents, said the board should change its practice of withholding infor mation. He said that is unlikely with several of the board's members under scrutiny.
''In the past that was our rule because that's what the Roberts family wanted, but right now, they are going to have to come clean with everything.
''They are also trying to protect the image of these other guys and they are going to be a little more guarded because these men and women have raised millions for the university through their ministry.''
Pearson, who attended ORU, was a regent until he fell out of favor with the school several years ago when he adopted a universalist theology, that because of what Christ did, all people will go to heaven.
Pearson said he was surprised by Roberts' resignation.
''I did not expect it to happen quite so soon. I thought it would have been something that would have been an absolute last resort.''
Pearson said he expects Roberts to maintain a connection with the university and that the regents will ensure he and his family are financially secure. He said he feels sorry for Roberts.
''When you spend your life impersonating who you think people want you to be, you forget who you are,'' Pearson said. ''He tried to live up to his father's expectations.
''My heart goes out to Richard and I wouldn't trade positions with him for anything.''
Ole Anthony, founder of a religious watchdog group called the Trinity Foundation, said allegations that the Roberts family lived a lavish lifestyle funded by ministry donations are nothing new.
''We did a six-month undercover investigation back in the early 1990s,'' he said. ''It was the same thing, unbelievably extravagant lifestyles and spending without any constraints. It was just way over the top.''
Anthony said to save ORU, which is $52 million in debt, ''a real board of regents with some academic credentials would need to be named.''
''I know what a lot of people wish would happen, and that's that the university changes directions. It's got enough backing and people that they don't need a healing minister.''
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ziva.branstetter@tulsaworld.com
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GR
, (11/27/2007 1:36:39 AM)
Why does Carlton Pearson feel that he needs get attention from this story?
Carlton - it is not about you all the time!
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I was the 1st one :-)
, (11/27/2007 1:37:08 AM)
Pray for the people
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betty jones
, (11/27/2007 2:32:29 AM)
Pray for all involved including Carlton Pearson.
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Daniel
, Tulsa (11/27/2007 2:51:49 AM)
Anthony said to save ORU, which is $52 million in debt, ''a real board of regents with some academic credentials would need to be named.''
Why hasn't ORU thought of this?? Hmmm, maybe because it's not an academic university but instead a fundamentalist breeding ground for purtianical, charismatic hypocrites.
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Carl R
, (11/27/2007 2:55:52 AM)
COVER-UP TIME.
SEND US MONEY, BUT DON'T ASK QUESTIONS
This is part of the deep cover-up now going on.
They've asked for a gag order, tried to seal documents, forbid subpoenas-- all to cover up.
Cover up what?
Don't ask.
They only want your money.
Not your questions.
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ORU grad from Europe
, (11/27/2007 4:08:03 AM)
Are you, Americans, asleep? C'mon, wake up, I want to read your comments! :)
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DJ CLAYVIS
, tulsa, ok (12/1/2007 1:38:25 PM)
ORU is a great school, I met some great people and my beautiful wife their. I completely agree the LR & RR are completely disengaged with reality...Once Lindsey & Richard are replaced the SCHOOL WILL ONCE AGAIN RISE TO PROMINENCE, because it will be honoring God...I feel so strongly about this that I put together another Parody Song about the latest RICHARD debacle and ORU'S impending return to prominence. You can find it by googling ORU Slim Shady. - DJ Clay 1/2 of the "Original" ORU SLIM SHADY.
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Fifty Dollar Fine
, (11/28/2007 1:16:00 AM)
#63 Reformed Grad - "Carlton Pearson had the guts to stand up for what he believes. He lost everything in the process, but he didn't back down."
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Dontcha just luv all these Christians, beside themselves with RAGE because CP said somebody else besides them is going to heaven.
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They're supposed to want everybody on the planet to be "saved", but only on their narrowminded, myopic terms, according to THEIR lifestyle and theirs only.
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They make a laughingstock out of their own religion. Idiots.
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Stephen
, Palo Alto (11/28/2007 5:04:58 PM)
Televangelists like Richard Roberts practice a weird form of narcissism. God speaks to them, we are told, and poof! they resign in the face of yet another money and sex scandal.
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Why doesn’t God ever speak to them BEFORE they get into trouble, and avoid the whole mess in the first place?
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These preachers, the likes of Richard Roberts, Oral Roberts, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Peter Popoff, Jimmy Swaggart, Pat Robertson, Ted Haggard, Creflo Dollar, Jim Bakker, Robert Tilton, Paul Crouch, Rick Hawkins, Earl Paulk, Warren Jeffs — the whole lot of millionaire shout-and-collapse artists — are enough to give egomania a bad name.
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They make millions preying on the gullibility of fearful and ill-educated people. However, just because they call you a flock doesn’t give them the right to fleece you.
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Oral Roberts ‘University’ continues to implode, because it has never been more than a temple to the vanity and greed of one man and his family.
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God recently told me that there are more evangelical scandals to come.
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Pastor PUKE
, CITY OF CRAP (11/28/2007 6:34:23 PM)
GET RID OF ALL TAX DODGES.l
TAX ALL CHURCHES TRIPLE AND YOU WILL GET RID OF THE CRIMINALS...
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Ann
, (11/29/2007 2:31:56 PM)
Jesus said in Matthew 6:
19"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
22"The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light. 23But if your eyes are bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!
24"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.
That is the measuring stick that Jesus himself set forth.
I don't know how Roberts had been spending the money entrusted to him, but it's reported that Benny Hinn has a $10 million dollar beach home, pays upwards of $3000 for each of his suits, etc., etc. Paul Crouch refers to the "precious little widows' mite" that has allowed him to live like a king. How do these guys sleep at night knowing their extravagance comes from their riding on the backs of the poor?
Jesus come quickly.
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BUDREAUX
, city of BAD HAIRPIECES (11/29/2007 6:53:31 PM)
The real criminal here is the guy that charges THREE GRAND for those funny looking suits...He looks like a cross between Austin Powers and The Pope...
don't even get me started on that HAIR...He looks like a CLOWN !!!!
Somebody should tell him !!!!
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sicofit
, (11/29/2007 9:49:39 PM)
Hey 129. This statement: The corrupt prospered, the just were fired. You don' t know how exactly right this statement is. From experience: hinn's camp is totally that. Read I Timothy and you'll have what hinn's camp is.
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Joe-Allen Doty
, Tulsa, Oklahoma (11/27/2007 6:07:18 PM)
Added note: In the spring of 1977, ORU instituted the "No Fat Students" rule. Those who were currently enrolled and appeared to be even slightly obese were weighed and measured in the Health Office in the Aerobics Center. Then they were told that they could finish the semester; but, in order to be readmitted to ORU for the Fall semester, they had to report in, be weighed and check for body fat content. If they were in a reasonable range with weight and body fat, they were given permission to complete enrollment.
. . . A number of students who were getting government financial aid notified the federal government because it was against the law to discriminate against folks who were overweight. ORU had to drop that rule and it is interesting that there are folks now going to ORU who are fatter than any of those who were attending in the Spring of 1977. Even Richard Roberts is no longer slim.
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HURRICANE
, Tulsa (11/27/2007 7:23:15 PM)
#24...Bill...I do not have a degree from anywhere let alone ORU...from my perspective I disagree with you about your degree being a joke...these scandals are definately an embarassment for the institution but in my opinion, for what it is worth, I don't think it really reflects on the students themselves...past or present...you should be proud of your degree...
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okie jh
, Tulsa (11/27/2007 8:31:01 PM)
Creflo Dollar is on Larry King now. Larry is asking tougher questions this time around. Good for him.
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Former ORU Student
, (11/27/2007 11:10:25 PM)
Creflo Dollar is the BIGGEST crook and hypcrite ever. He said out of his own mouth that he hates when blacks are janitors and snubbed one when he said "hello" to him. He's a snob and we should all boycott his butt and see how poor he gets.
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Fifty Dollar Fine
, (11/28/2007 1:06:49 AM)
#28 helen - "Mercy is the word that comes to mind I pray mercy upon him for he know not what he is doing"
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Do you really think you are Jesus? Are you that delusional?
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Fifty Dollar Fine
, (11/28/2007 1:08:46 AM)
#195 - "Added note: In the spring of 1977, ORU instituted the "No Fat Students" rule. Those who were currently enrolled and appeared to be even slightly obese were weighed and measured in the Health Office in the Aerobics Center. Then they were told that they could finish the semester; but, in order to be readmitted to ORU for the Fall semester, they had to report in, be weighed and check for body fat content. If they were in a reasonable range with weight and body fat, they were given permission to complete enrollment."
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This is fascist behavior and an Ubermensch, elitist mentality.
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DTaylor
, (11/27/2007 4:12:23 PM)
after 40 years of being the heavy handed leader. miracles still happen i guess.
someone said, 'people change slowly'. that being the case, the luck factor would be more appropriate.
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I Am An Idiot
, (11/27/2007 4:16:19 PM)
To #187 CM, Do you REALLY believe that you could distract God from His judgment (as you posted)?
Answer - In a manner of speaking Yes, as I stated in the post you refered to I give you book, chapter and verse of why I stated it. Proverbs 24:17-18 NKJV
17 Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, And do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles;
18 Lest the LORD see it, and it displease Him, And He turn away His wrath from him.
Granted judgment is an assumed thing here but it certainly can apply so I would rather err on the side of caution rather than blow a trumpet to shout my approval at ones judgement. Thank you for the lesson on proofread, I stand corrected.
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DTaylor
, (11/27/2007 4:19:50 PM)
news 2 is running preliminary oru story groundwork info for the conference right now. wetting our whistle.
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Hello Dolli
, San Diego (11/27/2007 4:32:27 PM)
Results scheduled for 6 pm Tulsa Time.
I think from ORU.
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IDIOT
, OWASSO (11/27/2007 4:36:47 PM)
#166 he is an idiot, fool.
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Joe-Allen Doty
, Tulsa, Oklahoma (11/27/2007 5:59:44 PM)
I am just "saying," by typing, that, IMO, for a university to be a completely PRIVATE institution it should not accept monies from government sources. ORU accepts monies from the government in the name of certain students, without the students handling or even seeing the money. Granted, ORU does not ask the government for money for the students; but, in effect, it is still the same thing.
There are some institutions of higher education which do not accept any kind of money from government sources.
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