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In HB 1804's first month, no Tulsa arrests

 
By NICOLE MARSHALL & CURTIS KILLMAN World Staff Writers
Published: 12/9/2007  1:41 AM
Last Modified: 6/4/2008  7:15 AM

The number of local immigration detentions has fallen since September, law enforcers say.

Tulsa law enforcement leaders say it has been business as usual in the month since a new immigration law took effect.

No arrests for violations of the law, known as House Bill 1804, have been made in the city, they said last week.

The law, passed in the Legislature's last session, makes it a felony to knowingly transport illegal aliens, requires proof of citizenship to receive certain government benefits and creates barriers to hiring illegal immigrants. After July 1, it will require contractors to check the immigration status of workers.

Chief Deputy Tim Albin of the Tulsa County Sheriff's Office and Tulsa Police Chief Ron Palmer said one of their main goals has been to dispel rumors and educate people about law officers' role in enforcing the law.

Palmer said, "We are continuing to work with the Hispanic community to get this information out and let them know that even though some people believe we are making wholesale 1804 arrests, the TPD has made no 1804 arrests in the 30-day period following the enactment of the law."

Surge in June, then decline: Albin said the number of people held in the Tulsa Jail on immigration issues jumped in June for several reasons, including increased cooperation between jail workers and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents.

Those immigration detainers -- orders to hold

a prisoner -- have nothing to do with the state law.

A Tulsa World analysis of jail records shows that the number of immigration detentions has decreased each month since September.

In November, the month HB 1804 took effect, 105 people were booked into the jail on immigration detainers.

The number of people jailed on such detainers was 133 in October and 143 in September. In August, 110 immigration detainees were booked into the jail.

Albin said "all the moons lined up, so to speak" at the beginnning of June.

The Sheriff's Office entered into a partnership with ICE that allows deputies to access ICE records directly. Deputies can also place and release detainers on inmates who are in violation of immigration laws.

Political leaders were also weighing in on the issue in June.

After the City Council approved a resolution on the matter, Mayor Kathy Taylor issued a policy clarification that month stating that police will conduct immigration checks on all people who are arrested on complaints of felonies and full-custody misdemeanors.

U.S. Rep. John Sullivan, R-Okla., called for the policy clarification.

About that time, several high-profile cases exposed holes in the system when undocumented immigrants were booked into the jail and released on bond.

"We decided we have got to figure out how to address this, and many agencies came together to do just that," Albin said.

But the reason for the decrease in holds during the last few months is not as obvious, he said.

Those numbers could fluctuate because of law enforcement task forces targeting certain types of crimes, he said. Also, jail populations are cyclical, so numbers may change based on "many things that are happening outside the jail," he said.

Albin also noted that many people who are being held now for federal immigration officials have been in the jail before, released on bond and arrested again on warrants.

Reasons for arrests: In all, 5 percent of all people booked into the Tulsa Jail in November had complaints that included ICE detainers.

Driving-related issues snared most of those held for ICE.

Failure to have a driver's license was the chief arrest complaint among the detainees, with 84 people booked last month on that offense.

Having no proof of vehicle liability insurance ranked second, with 55 people booked on that complaint.

Nearly one in four of those held for ICE in November -- 23 -- were booked on complaints that included driving under the influence.

A handful of those with immigration holds were also facing more serious charges.

Seven face various sexual assault charges.

"We are trying to arm people with facts so that they can make good decisions," Palmer said.

"If you are driving drunk, if you are driving without a driver's license . . . or even committing the smallest traffic violations, if you can't produce valid ID to satisfy the court of who you are to ensure your appearance in court, the likelihood is that you will be detained," he said.

"At that point, if there is still a question about the ID, the likelihood of you being checked with ICE is really pretty good based upon what the Sheriff's Department is doing with their agreement with ICE agents."

Crime victims protected: One misconception is that illegal immigrants who are victims of crime will automatically be deported if they notify authorities. That's not true, Albin said.

He cited as an example a case that led Tulsa deputies to arrest two illegal immigrants, Pedro and Rosalio Morin, last month on complaints alleging that they sexually assaulted a female relative, who is 11.

The girl -- who told detectives that she had been molested since she was 7 -- and her family are also in this country illegally, he said.

Charges have not yet been approved against the Morin brothers, who remain in custody. If charges are approved, county detectives and ICE agents can start considering what they can do to help the girl and her family obtain legal status while the case progresses through the courts.

There is a path to permanent status for crime victims, Albin said, but many factors must be considered and each case is viewed individually.

Palmer said police have also been explaining to Hispanic residents that police will not target them because of their race.

They have encouraged people who believe they were targeted because of racial bias to file complaints, and they have assured them that their immigration status will not be checked if they do so.

Such complaints "have not been appreciatively higher" since the law took effect, Palmer said.

The department has handed out hundreds of cards to Hispanic residents explaining the difference between a ticketed arrest and an in-custody arrest, he said.

"We think we are making some progress in regard to the fear factor," Palmer said.

"There are still people concerned out there, but there are still people out there who are in fact driving without a license and driving without insurance, and that fact can't be denied."


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By NICOLE MARSHALL & CURTIS KILLMAN World Staff Writers

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The Oracle, Tulsa (12/9/2007 5:02:59 AM)
Make traffic checkpoints frequently.All of us will be subject to checks for legal and current drivers liscenses,verificatin of current insurance,current tags,and stolen vehicles,and unsafe vehicles,and outstanding warrants.Impound all autos that are being driven illegaly.This applies to all drivers on our public streets and highways.
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jam, tulsa (12/9/2007 6:05:25 AM)
OK, a few have been detained by Tulsa authorities...the question now is...How is ICE handling the dispositions? How about some ICE dispostion statistics Tulsa World?

Doesn't appear to be much enforcement enthusiasm from the "sanctuary city" folks (Taylor and Palmer).

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laura, tulsa (12/9/2007 6:41:51 AM)
tulsa police and the sheriff's especially sheriff's have arrested people every weekend for DWM....not traffic violations and all that other crap! They have arrested at least 15-20 hispanics every weekend. Of course they aren't going to put that in the paper because they don't want people to think they are racial profiling people and they are! ICE gets the people off of paperwork being transfered to OKC and that way the person can't get out of jail in the 48 hour time period ICE has to come get them! Those are the facts!
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Tulsan, Tulsa (12/9/2007 7:28:53 AM)
laura:

If people here illegally are being apprehended and turned over to ICE agents, that's the goal of immigration control.

Most of us do not believe that open border policies are good for our nation.

I'm assuming your acronym DWM stands for driving while mexican.

We all know that the overwhelming majority of people here illegally are Hispanic so it doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude that nearly all illegals apprehended are likely to be Hispanic.

If you're put into a room and told to gather as many balls as possible in a set amount of time and 98% of the balls are red - how many blue balls are you likely to have?

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america first, (12/9/2007 7:59:58 AM)
Laura

Load them up and ship them out, illegal is illegal. what don't you understand?

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rdm, bartleville (12/9/2007 8:54:07 AM)
The Tulsa Police needs to go to the flea market on Admiral & Mingo on saturdays,we went and thought we was in MEXICO ,very few people spoke english,there were no tulsa police in the area,Are the tulsa police toid to stay out of the area??? We recieved many dirty looks from the mexicans while there,this the first time we been there in years we will never go back,it looks as if the mexicans are turning parts of Tulsa into MEXICO ,what a shame and everyone knowns 80% of them are illegals and the Tulsa Police does not up hold the laws as they sworn too !!
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SARA.. A PROUD OKLAHOMA RACIST, Tulsa (12/10/2007 9:06:37 AM)
To # 94:

I have a very good business, thank you.

You ask why my people are out trimming trees and limbs in the freezing rain, it is because a lot of peoples homes and such have been damaged by fallen trees and limbs. My people worked through the night, helping people. I have eight employees, they are working twelve hour shifts, four at a time. This is a job that the illegals want to rant about, saying that the American people will not do this type of work. My workers have more work than they can handle. Why?. Because the majority of the American people are very pleased to hire a company that employees legal citizens, the way I do. So to all you illegals out there, there are Americans that will do landscaping jobs.

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MAC, Tulsa/San Diego (12/10/2007 12:03:31 PM)
It would be a lot easier for Americans to obtain WIC if there wasn't a block long line of Stop and Drop Illegal single mothers already there.
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SARA..A PROUD OKLAHOMA RACIST, Tulsa (12/10/2007 3:27:34 PM)
To # 93 and # 95...

Go ahead and call me whatever you like.

I have had my landscaping business for ten years. I started out with three employees, now I have eight employees. In the ten years I have been in business, never once have I had a black apply for a job. When the illegals say that the American people will not do the hard work that the illegals will do, maybe it is because of people like you. I think that you two have a lot worse thing to concern yourself with, than what I post on this site, such as the high crime rate among the black people. You people are killing each other off faster than if there was a war.

I will not send my employees into a high crime area to work, that means north and east Tulsa. When I get calls for work in those sections of town, I inform the caller that I have a back-load of jobs, and I recommend they get in touch with another company. I will not put my workers lives in danger.

So, may I suggest, until you curb the violence, driveby shootings, high dropout rates in your schools, don't worry about something as trivial as what someone comments on this site, OKAY ????

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Sara, Tulsa (12/10/2007 6:58:53 PM)
.. Rogers Arkansas

Immigration Officials raided 6 northwest Arkansas restaurants.

Rogers, Arkansas.. Federal immigration officials say they have raided six restaurants in northwest Arkansas and arrested 19 suspected illegal immigrants.

According to U.S. Attorney,Robert c. Balfe, the Immigration Criminal Apprehension Taskforce executed search warrants Monday at Acambaro restaurants in Bentonville, Lowell, Rogers, and Springdale, Arkansas.

Balfe's office says the restaurants belong to Acambaro Mexican Restaurant, Inc. and Garcia's Distributor Inc. Immigration officials also arrested four operators of the restaurants: 35 year old Arturo Reyes Jr., 36 year old Silvia Reyes, 33 year old Lucila Huaracha and 33 year old Armanda Reyes. Balfe says all four are believed to be illegal immigrants from Mexico.

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Latisha, , Okmulgee (12/9/2007 10:53:21 PM)
# 88 Sara the snow white business woman: No only whites are legal, we are all colors. Go clean your trailer, you bitter racist.
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To REALLY oldrusty, tulsa (12/9/2007 11:06:16 PM)
91. 12/9/2007 8:59:32 PM, oldrusty, tulsa

"when i started driving, Liability insurance was not the law, and I still think its a civil matter,"

oldrusty - You must be REALLY freaking old! When DID you start driving?

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White Christmas, (12/9/2007 11:11:42 PM)
here is a song for sara

I'm dreaming of a white christmas trimming my tree just like the ones that used to be brown, black, red and yellow.

Know only the white christmas tree trimmers that trim in the freezing rain.

So does the white christmas song means a whole bunch of white people at a Christmas party.

#84 quit picking on the ones that mispell you did it to. Does that mean you need an education. you hill billy, redneck, honky gringo

looser face, toad smeller.

this is fun no school tomorrow

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brown power, (12/9/2007 11:15:39 PM)
Sara

the only trimming you do is at the welfare line. Go get more food stamps and WIC.

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hitler watchman, tulsa (12/10/2007 12:23:20 AM)
Wow! Stupid people put him in power. Stupid people put Stalin in power.... about 80 years ago... and again, today.

His plan really worked... I am looking forward for the time of the Beltane to hear his inaugural address and watch occult rituals on tv.

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hitler watchman, tulsa (12/10/2007 12:45:53 AM)
jethro...

America is returning to tribalsim. See the movie, Apocalypto.

Unfortunately, you will not have a stockplie of M16s and nukes... but another tribe will.

What will you do, then?

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Jethro Bodine, (12/9/2007 6:50:19 PM)
Yeah, Sara...and long ago, when the native Americans inhabited this land, the men hunted & gathered food while the women tended to the home and children. They had no true desire for money and no known differential treatment of 'race' because they were all equal within tribes. Then the white man came over and said, "Y'know what? Let's make things BETTER"
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Common Cents, Sapulpa, (12/9/2007 7:09:10 PM)
I really don't have a problem with immigrants, legal or otherwise, as long as they speak English. The only issue I take with Mexican immigrants is that they should stop plastering the Mexican flag all over their trucks! If you're so d*** proud of your friggin' "Home Country" then GO HOME! Otherwise, fly an American flag, if this is where you want to be, show some pride in the greatest country on the planet. Don't insult us by displaying your hispanic paraphernalia and claim that Mexico is great and all this crap. You obviously left there and came here for a reason, and I don't think it was to advertise!
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oldrusty, tulsa (12/9/2007 8:59:32 PM)
I sure as heck dont understand people wanting to live like they was in Russia, carrying proof of citizenship, papers,going through road blocks, to prove car insurance, when i started driving, Liability insurance was not the law, and I still think its a civil matter, not a path for the Big insurance companies, to keep soaking dollars from the good drivers, and citizens. others just want to drop their head, and pay through the nose.
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to Sara, (12/9/2007 9:17:53 PM)
Sara, so I'm guessing your landscape bussines is rally bad so not to make enough money to live somewhere else other than your 1 bedroom trailer..
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Jessie, Broken Arrow, Ok. (12/9/2007 10:28:09 PM)
to sara, the racist: So, you think only white milk people are legal?, think twice ignorant hillbilly, I am black and I am legal. Go back to School.
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not sara, ba (12/9/2007 10:41:38 PM)
sara you dumb @ss racist trash, why are you posting on here when you claim to be trimming trees, where you doing the trimming not in the freezing rain!! oh and if you had a good business you wouldnt have to be out working in this freezing rain!!!!!!!!!! get a life
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Davy Crotchety, Tulsa (12/9/2007 5:44:28 PM)
Hey, man, where ya been? These clowns LOVE the idea. They are hurtin' for a little authoritarian manhandling. It's creepy.
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Not from Tulsa, Tulsa (12/9/2007 5:51:59 PM)
Crotchety!! What he hell is "you're are advocating violence"? Good God, I wish you people would learn to spell. Maybe we need some education reform in Tulsa. I get sick of reading rants from you illiterate Okies!
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Tulsan, Tulsa (12/9/2007 5:59:01 PM)
Reality - Did you even read post# 17?

Yes, it's a misdemeanor to enter our country illegally.

And Yes, it's a misdemeanor to BE HERE illegally (undocumented presence).

However, the penalty for both offenses is deportation.

The law allows detention until deportation.

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