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Two evangelists lose clout on ORU's board
By ZIVA BRANSTETTER World Projects Editor
Published:
12/11/2007 12:34 AM
Last Modified: 3/19/2008 6:36 AM
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Read the latest ORU stories, view the lawsuit and other documents and watch slide shows and video.
Creflo Dollar resigned from the regents, and Benny Hinn is now a "regent emeritus" with no voting power.
The evangelist Creflo Dollar has resigned from the Oral Roberts University board of regents, and another evangelist, Benny Hinn, has lost his status as a voting member of the board.
ORU's spokesman Jeremy Burton confirmed Wednesday that Dollar had resigned and that Hinn had been named a "regent emeritus" without a vote on the board.
Both refused last week to respond to a Senate inquiry into lavish spending by evangelists.
A Canadian businessman, Richard Pearson, has been named to ORU's board of business regents. Pearson, who operates a bus company, was formerly on the nonvoting portion of the board.
Burton had no comment on the reasons for the changes.
Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, asked last month for financial information from six media-based ministries, including those run by Hinn and Dollar. Grassley said he was investigating complaints about "generous salaries and housing allowances and amenities such as private jets and Rolls-Royces" allegedly owned by the ministries.
Hinn and Dollar did not provide the information to Grassley by a Thursday deadline. Hinn operates World Healing Center Church Inc. and Benny Hinn Ministries of Grapevine, Texas. Dollar operates World Changers Church International in suburban Atlanta.
ORU's board has 23 business regents and 18 others who are spiritual regents, associate regents and regents emeritus. Those 18 other regents do not have a vote in business and financial matters, according to ORU's bylaws.
The bylaws give Richard and Oral Roberts wide authority on all spiritual matters, including the right to veto decisions by business regents on such matters.
Richard Roberts resigned as ORU's president Nov. 23 after three former professors filed a lawsuit. The suit alleges that Roberts and his family misspent university and ministry money and lived lavishly.
A Tulsa District Court judge is scheduled to hear several motions in the lawsuit Tuesday.
ORU's board of regents had been scheduled to meet Wednesday, but Burton said the meeting had been canceled because of the ice storm. Burton said he did not know when the next meeting would take place.
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By ZIVA BRANSTETTER World Projects Editor
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GOD SAID NO!
, (12/11/2007 12:55:29 AM)
Rick,
Bless your heart brother ... former Souls A'Fire. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh .... You made the paper. Sell those buses bro and pay the bills. Just remember when all else fails, "I got Jesus" :-)
From "You Know Who!"
Classmate and ORU Homie!!!!!!
CALL ME!
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Hugh, 3rd of Five
, Hooville, VA (12/11/2007 1:20:04 AM)
What is it they say about "cold days in..."
Two down, seven to go.
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Hugh, 3rd of Five
, Hooville, VA (12/11/2007 1:20:59 AM)
What is it they say about "cold days in..."
Two down, seven to go, including a Chairman who thinks he was put there "by God to do whatever Richard Roberts wants."
"Resistance is not futile"
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Hugh, 3rd of Five
, Hooville, VA (12/11/2007 1:37:26 AM)
Interesting "decision-making" afoot here too. Just how is it that "Dr" (cough, wheez -- he's among those with the fake ORU doctorates) Hinn was "named" regent emeritus? And who promoted/upgraded Pearson.
Was it the BoRegents themselves - the "business" end of the group - who did the deeds? As a whole, or was this GP's fiat?
More mysteries -- but sop for oru bor.
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Fifty Dollar Fine
, (12/11/2007 1:42:41 AM)
Souls A Fire is the only thing worth listening to at ORU.
.
And even then, for the sound alone, not the lyrical content.
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not an insider...
, (12/11/2007 1:54:43 AM)
maybe these changes are part of green's stipulations for the 70 mil, or they could just be clearing 2 seats for the 2 seats requested by green. whatever the reason they are stepping down it can only be seen as a good thing for the school.
let's hope the following business regents follow suit shortly...
Kenneth Copeland
Jesse Duplantis
Charles Green
John Hagee
Marilyn Hickey
Myles Munroe
George Pearsons
Jerry Savelle
I.V. Hilliard
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Tin Man
, Oz (12/11/2007 2:18:16 AM)
Right on Am....
And about your list, there's only one person on it who doesn't (that I know of) have a "fake" doctorate from Richard Roberts on his mantle. (that'd be George Pearsons -- who apparently doesn't yet have an undergraduate degree, let alone one of the honorary doctorates)
I should note though that I've yet to figure out how I.V. Hilliard received the "Dr." title he uses on his web site. (When it's unspecified like this, and its one of RR's cronies, chances are high that its an ORU "fake" doctorate)
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Tin Man
, Oz (12/11/2007 2:22:10 AM)
Perhaps the only "blessing" to come from this ice storm is that we don't have the "g-man" poster -- aka "George" (as in "George Paul?") coming on to say that this story is yet another example of TW bias..... or that everything is wonderful now at ORU and we should "trust" George Pearsons..... (the man who point blank last May said he was put in his postion "by God to do whatever Richard Roberts wanted.)
May your power come back on quick George. We can't wait to learn your spin on this one too.
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DJ
, Salem, Indiana (12/11/2007 2:59:50 AM)
WOW!!! I do believe the as earth moved and a paradigm shift is in the making. I was wondering how "the call for transparency" was going to shake out. Senator Grassley isn't asking for anything that shouldn't already be "transparent". Time for leaders with true academic credentials and business discipline. I know there's an ice storm, but Mr. Green, TW, and anyone behind the scences--"keep the heat on"! ORU can only thrive in "the light of day".
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Bus Company
, (12/11/2007 3:21:41 AM)
He operates a bus company. Nice to see some of the lower class represented on the board.
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Alan Pike
, (12/11/2007 3:40:40 AM)
------------------------
MEANINGLESS SHUFFLE
AN ILLUSION OF CHANGE
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This is a meaningless shuffle done to give an illusion of change, without change.
Oral and Richard still have the power.
(And will keep it.)
The audigtor's report is being kept top secret. ( and for GOOD reason. It stinks)
Pearsons, the RR syphantic lickspittle, is still the"chairman" of the BOR.
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"I am put here by God to do what RR wants."
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The same gang of enablers and ask-no questions sycophants -- Ellsworth, who holds the moneybags -- are still there cooking the books.
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Oral and Richard with veto power are still there -- and THAT will not change.
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So what future does a "new" ORU have with the same gang, the same powers with the Roberts, the same practices -- all covered by a blanket of secrecy, as with the report?
------------------------------------------
MR. GREEN -- TAKE YOUR MONEY AND RUN FROM THIS DEN OF PICKPOCKETS
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#11
, (12/11/2007 4:38:06 AM)
Alan give it up. You're really starting to sound even more stupid than before. I don't like your new name, either.
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Alan Pike
, (12/11/2007 4:49:03 AM)
Thank you #11
for the encouragement!
Must be hitting home.
The truth hurts, doesn't it?
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Alan Pike
, (12/11/2007 5:04:09 AM)
Re my post 13.
My encouragement -- and the support to jump-start the day -- came from post 12-- not 11.
pass the coffee.
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Elizabeth Conley
, Norfolk (12/11/2007 5:08:23 AM)
This shift on the board of regents is probably a good thing.
It would be more impressive if the board became transparent, instead of just punitive toward members getting bad press. Still, this is a sign that they are aware of limits to what is acceptable. Given their track record, this is a paradigm change.
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Alan Pike
, (12/11/2007 5:18:58 AM)
Eliz. 15
Ever the optimist.
I wouldn't declare the patient whole, healed and changed just yet.
Let's see what they do about releasing that report and dealing with the Roberts veto powers before we dance in the streets.
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Allan #11
, (12/11/2007 5:24:47 AM)
You think too highly of yourself. Actually, I agree with you. Green needs to take his money with him.
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honestly
, tulsa (12/11/2007 5:30:09 AM)
As Long as Benny Hinn is still represented in any way on the BOR, ORU will be seen as a joke. Non voting members of a board still have influence. This is a step in the right direction ... but stinks of resistance to change.
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Alan Pike
, (12/11/2007 5:43:59 AM)
ORU is widely seen as a joke, and not just because of the right-reverend Dr. Benedictus Hinn.
-- because of a BOR under the effective veto power of the "don" and his family.
-- because it's chairman is chairman only because he swore undying loyalty to the Roberts clan
-- because they continue the cover-up of that report. ( It's clear why they would)
What they permitted is beyond the pale.
--because they keep the same RR and LR enablers where they were --Ellsworth and his his do-anything-Richard-wants minions..
The BOR is a joke.
Which makes ORU a joke.
CLEAN-UP or COVER- UP?
Do you have to ask?
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Alan Pike
, (12/11/2007 5:51:42 AM)
# 17 MO alum.
It's Alan, not Allen.
And a good morning to you.
At least we agree Mr. Green should take his money and run for the nearest exit.
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DJ
, Salem, Indiana (12/11/2007 6:08:11 AM)
In earlier posts there was some discussion about BOR's educational credentials, And it prompted me to do some checking of my own -- this is probably not news to most -- it was just the realization of how far all this mess reaches. Several are running their own "schools of ministry", "Bible institutes", even "seminaries" -- roping people in with the "Dr." in front of their name. It is so wrong -- the people are so thirsty for the Word (Psalm 42) -- this deception is lining the "Dr.'s" pockets and draining the bank accounts of the workin' folks. Expensive education. What a web! By the way, my neightbor wants to be the next Joyce Meyers -- I fell out of my chair.
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WATCHING
, TULSA (12/11/2007 6:22:54 AM)
WHAT'S EVERYONE'S OPINION ON JOYCE MEYER WHO POSTED ALL OF HER FINANCIAL'S ON HER WEBSITE?
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Interested
, tulsa (12/11/2007 6:32:25 AM)
#22. I think that because she is being so open, she probably doesn't have anything to hide. Granted, the government doesn't have the right to put their nose in religious organizations, however, because of RR and LR (and those who have gone before them, i.e. Bakers), the fact that she put everything out there lends to her character and credibility in my humble opinion.
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~sojourner
, Adair (12/11/2007 6:50:13 AM)
Joyce Meyer needs to get the garbage out...
_________
Question from the balcony: Could someone please explain to me what an "honorary" doctorate degree is in the first place, please? Does it have anything to do with acadamia, do they just write a dissertation, or what? How do they qualify for the degree? If it's a PhD (since they become "Dr." I am assuming it's a PhD, is that correct?)What classes are they required to take?? Could someone explain this to me, please? Thank you.
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Interested
, tulsa (12/11/2007 7:07:58 AM)
#25. What does "Joyce Meyer needs to get the garbage out...." mean?
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