Albert, Tulsa (12/17/2007 10:11:29 AM)

Wait for all the libs to start shouting "global warming..."

Al G, Tusla (12/17/2007 10:20:26 AM)

Excellent article on the global warming causing more ice storms.

THe mayor's response has been appalling; no plan of action whatsoever to combat the global warming crise and stop the ice storms; read the "mayor's response to the storms" article.

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We the citizens of tulsa call upon the mayor to address the crises immediately and put a plan of action into place to stop the ice storms at once.

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yeah, tulsa (12/17/2007 10:21:00 AM)

yeah, lets blame Global Warming! By God we have to have something to blame!!!

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Let's blame Global Warming for the streets, illegal immigration and Mayor Taylor too...

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Gore should do a movie

Ray, Tulsa (12/17/2007 10:29:48 AM)

Wait for all of the cons to start spinning their Polyanna spin on things that warmer climates are good and great and not our problem . . . .

Idiots Delight, in Tulsa (12/17/2007 11:50:17 AM)

Obviously, you all are related by incest to idiot Senator for Okiehomma Inhoff-stooge.

Bluesman3, teresita (12/17/2007 11:59:17 AM)

The is no longer an argument whether or not we are seeing global warming, only the biggest holdouts of that flat earth society are keeping the debate alive.

The fact is, we should embrace what we know, and replant trees that are durable in this heavy ice, because at the end of the day, we must deal we what is evolving on this planet that we've altered due to our CO2 emissions.

No easy answers, but I noticed black walnut trees on my property in the historic ice storm s/e of Tulsa in January had devastating effects on many of my trees, but every mature black walnut tree that I've inspected never lost a limb, they're unbelievable tough, tough hombrees. We should plant more of these to replace some of the softer wooded trees for future generations.

JA, (12/17/2007 12:13:04 PM)

I support Global Warming!!!

Can't wait until I get my old car finished and am able to driveit with those horendous catalytic convertors to rob power from the engine.

What about the Global Cooling that happened years back??? Hello???

HG, Tulsa (12/17/2007 12:33:42 PM)

Global warming is not a liberal-conservative issue! It's a scientific issue. It's sad that so many choose to try to make it political, when free exchange of ideas and evidence does not need labels for one side or the other. It needs only true intelligence.

bg, (12/17/2007 1:03:05 PM)

If Global Warming "needs only true intelligence", why is Al Gore the front man?

Jeff Hawkins, Gaithersburg, MD (12/17/2007 1:06:17 PM)

I will not argue against the theory that man has had a significant impact on global warming. However, one must keep in mind that the Earth is a living, breathing entity, and as with all living things, there are cycles. The earth has been going through cycles since it was born. Man has simply exacerbated it, and increased the rate at which these things are changing. I agree with the other writer about planting species that would be more adaptable to our changing climate.

soothsayer, (12/17/2007 1:16:13 PM)

Thank God Al Gore invented "global warming" it explains every part of the natural phenomena known to man!

Plus, of course, it provides lots of lucrative grants for "scientists" to study "global warming"

Kilroy, Tulsa (12/17/2007 1:18:17 PM)

Not denying that there may be global warming going on, but it wasn't the cause of THIS ice storm. This was casued by a warm moist air mass (not unusual) colliding with and overriding a cold air mass that had been trapped in Canada for a week or more. Also not unusual.

And there isn't enough data to say one way or the other really if global waring is going on at all. With all the factors that could cause the same effects we're seeing now, there hasn't been near enough data collected in the last 110 years to create to a statistically valid model. Either way. The issue has been politicized to the detriment of everyone.

According to some scientists, global warming is the cause for floods, droughts, ice storms, hurricanes and even head lice. OK, maybe not head lice...yet.

Paul, W Tulsa (12/17/2007 1:20:52 PM)

I blame the republicans

The Synic, Tulsa (12/17/2007 1:23:28 PM)

This is not global warming. After looking at all the damage to the trees and lights at Rhema one can only conclude that this ice storm was nothing more than God smotting the Rhema bible church for its audacious light display. Oh vengeful God. Forgive our wayward brethren.

Jeff Hawkins, Gaiithersburg, MD (12/17/2007 1:29:16 PM)

So much for intelligent dialogue.

Jay, (12/17/2007 1:59:16 PM)

Mr. Hawkins (#15)...welcome to the blogs of the Tulsa World. Everything turns sour here.

Zod, The Zone (12/17/2007 2:12:31 PM)

You ain't seen nothing yet!

Josh, Sapulpa (12/17/2007 2:15:37 PM)

Evidence of global warming has been collected for quite sometime. Although at first the "evidence" that was being collected by and large was just data that was being collected for one purpose or another. After so many years of collecting data researchers started noticing changes and trends in the data they had collected. Researchers compared data with one antother and began formulating the idea that the climate was changing and that we migh be helping it along. The earth does go through cycles warming and cooling cycles but it does not mean that we should help it along. At the very least if we can not all agree that Global Warming is occuring, we should all try to live less materialistic and consumptive lifestyles.

Josh, Sapulpa (12/17/2007 2:20:38 PM)

Living less materialistic and consumptive lifestyles would help to ease the ever growing burden we have placed on the earth to provide enough resources for us to lead the lifestyles we (U.S.) and others such as the Chinese are becoming used to. Changing our current consumptive rates to less consumptive rates is inevitable in the long run, if we want the human race to continue.

Kilroy, Tulsa (12/17/2007 2:36:57 PM)

You make a good point, Josh, and having a reduced impact on the environment would be a good thing. Even if Global Warming wasn't/isn't occurring, it's insane to continue to emit volumes of toxic fumes at an accelerating rate. Eventually, they'll kill you even if the warming doesn't. But the issue gets politicized when you have "bureaucrats" calling for draststic actions THEY haven't researched well based on scientific research they probably really don't really understand. So to call for reductions in some coutries while allowing developing countries to emit more greenhouse gas while "developing"...so they can emit more gases...is no solution at all. The rush to action is foolish until you know exactly what you're dealing with. Still, emission reduction can't be a bad thing

in the long run, even if the "warming" theory is false.

But you have to bear in mind that all scientists don't agree either, and they're looking at the same data. And oyu can't blame the schism in the scientific community on the same kind of "politics" that is trying to formulate policies.

Josh, Sapulpa (12/17/2007 2:51:13 PM)

I agree with you Kilroy. Coming up with a solution to allow developing nations to develop is going to be tricky. We can not ask them not to what we already did without helping them. Especially when we as a nation continue to have such high pollution levels. We demand these poor countries to have cleaner, better emissions and still produce goods for the same cheap price we are used to. It is just not feasable and finding a solution is going to be tough. Getting people to agree upon a solution will be even tougher.

Kilroy@inorbit.com, Tulsa (12/17/2007 3:28:20 PM)

When you can prove imminent doom, you have a better chance of reaching a concensus. Until then you still have to deal with the theorists who think a warm up preceeds an ice age. Then it's the same thing all over again.

What if?, Tulsa (12/17/2007 3:33:50 PM)

Maybe "Global Warming" will wipe out the human race and a more functional life form can make use of this planet. After 500,000 years on this planet, we are just a bunch of bickering fools. What purpose do we serve? Is it possible nature is in the process of exterminating us because we are useless? If this is true, trying to cut CO2 emissions to save ourselves is going against our natural destiny. Maybe we are supposed to pollute the planet and render ourselves extinct. If the planet decides it is better off without us (it probably is), who are we to disagree? It could be argued that getting rid of humans is the best thing for the environment.

John Galt, Galt's Gulch (12/17/2007 3:51:36 PM)

Global warming is the expanation the collectivists want to give to the weather manipulation caused by the shadow government spreading chemtrails in the skys. Ron PAul will stop the shadow government, the Bilderbergers TRilateralists and illuminati with their chemtrails and global warming. Other candidates talk about the weather but Ron Paul will do something about it!!!!!!!!!

Vote Ron Paul in '08!!!!!!!!

Kilroy, Tulsa (12/17/2007 4:11:19 PM)

What if--You need to get some optimisim, Dude! Galt--You're starting to scare me.