Grad, (1/26/2008 1:48:12 AM)

Best wishes for the future of ORU !
Although, it will take many years to recover its reputation.

Jeff, Tulsa (1/26/2008 2:22:45 AM)

I'm calling it.....Dr. Mark Lewandowski will lobby to be the next president of ORU. That's what this move was all about. With his name no longer on the lawsuit, he's got to be thinking that with his great experience in "righting several ships" in big business that he is a frontrunner for the job. He knows that his good buddy and local businessman, Rick Fennimore is on the new board of trustees and will definately nominate him to the search committee. My guess is that that even though he tried to distance himself from Richard Roberts, because his name WAS on the original lawsuit, he will be affiliated with the Old Regime and thus overlooked to lead the university.

jam, tulsa (1/26/2008 5:45:31 AM)

And the whole sordid mess continues...but under a judges gag order. Bright light will never shine on this bunch.

Graychin, Eucha (1/26/2008 8:23:52 AM)

ORU certainly doesn't want its dirty laundry out in public. There has been heavy pressure on the plaintiffs to settle this quietly, including a Tulsa World editorial!

Why have the plaintiffs refused to settle? Perhaps they will insist on taking this to trial so that the whole world can know the full details of what was going on at "God's University."

Deborah, Tulsa, Ok (1/26/2008 11:02:46 AM)

I am not convinced ORU is "God's University."

ruth, (1/26/2008 12:38:01 PM)

I'm afraid that God has not been well represented much of the time if this is His university. If it had really been "God's University", wouldn't it have been called that? Or at least GRU (God and Roberts University).
It's my opinion that by the time that university was built and opened, Mr. Roberts was much too powerful in his own eyes to give that much room to God in the matter. Oral Roberts and Money ruled the day........and as far as I can tell, it hasn't changed much in the Richard Roberts saga. Maybe the university will be renamed: RRU--Richard Roberts University.
Then the Roberts kingdom will be kept in its rightful place....above all.

Cherry, Tulsa (1/26/2008 1:15:15 PM)

I still think they ought to turn ORU into the next Bell's. They got the flags already in place!!

Jeff, Tulsa (1/26/2008 2:05:18 PM)

The best days are ahead for ORU!!!!! Keep up the good work, BOT! We Know that you all are working hard to make things right at ORU!

Sad, Tulsa, Ok (1/26/2008 2:58:59 PM)

I have only posted on in these articles one time. So here goes my second post.
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I am sitting in my home dying from an incurable inherited disease. I can not work and I can not get insurance, and I can not qualify for Medicaid. I am trying to disability and they keep turning me down.
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Most of you fight over things that will never matter. I just wish Mr. Green would help me get health care instead of baling out a university that in the end does not matter. At least when I die I will not hurt anymore.
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I leave one thought with all of you. You will never take things to heaven with you. You will only take souls.
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As Check It Out once said, I doubt any of you will even read my post or care. That is fine, because most of you could care less if people like me exists.

Gail, Tulsa, Ok (1/26/2008 3:55:03 PM)

To: Sad: I hope you are the one I posted to the last time you said you posted. I spoke to Nanny and she said it is fine to email her so we can connect. Maybe I can help you get medical care. Do you have Nannies email address?

Sad, Tulsa, Ok (1/26/2008 5:03:43 PM)

Gail, I have Nanny's email address, but I will not email her. I am just so sick I can barely type much less have people here. Thank you anyway.

Gail, Tulsa, Ok (1/26/2008 6:05:05 PM)

We need to pray for Check It Out's husband!

Lewandowski hasn't a chance, (1/26/2008 8:02:00 PM)

Colleges & universities do not choose for their President, a Provost who grandstands the way Lewandowski did. He wrote that letter to the Board of Regents, giving it to the media first. His "ultimatim" cost him any & all opportunity, or potential to become President of any institution of higher learning. When it comes to a President, academia wants professionalism & a good fundraiser that can get along with all sorts of people, not dramatic grandstanding. JMO, but a professional one.

Fifty Dollar Fine, (1/26/2008 8:07:54 PM)

#12 Gail - "We need to pray for Check It Out's husband!"

How is he doing??

Gail, Tulsa, Ok (1/26/2008 8:12:04 PM)

FDF, go to your email! It is a very difficult time for this family!

Fifty Dollar Fine, (1/26/2008 8:12:43 PM)

#13 Lew hasn't a chance - "When it comes to a President, academia wants professionalism & a good fundraiser that can get along with all sorts of people, not dramatic grandstanding. JMO, but a professional one."

But ORU doesn't want to be part of academia, and the hayseeds that enable it certainly don't want that.

From what I have read on these boards the past few mos, they want:

A "special" Charismatics-only holding pen for their toys/children

Theological purity among the BOT, favoring Pentecostalism/Charismania

"Students" who never learn anything except for how to jibbajabba on Tuesdays and Thursdays, who only wear certain clothes, only read certain materials, only screw a certain way, and only love a certain way.

None of these things has ANYTHING to do with academia.

In short, they are like the village whining that everyone else has a fiddler on the roof, but their little Pentecostal corner of the universe doesn't.

Comments on 16, (1/26/2008 8:19:08 PM)

The manner in which you speak & write demonstrates that you do not know very much about higher education, or professional criteria.

Deborah, Tulsa, Ok (1/26/2008 8:36:08 PM)

To: Poster #17: No Name as Usual: When you can not effectively counter FDF you attack personally and professionally. How stupid can you get?

Comments on 18, (1/26/2008 8:51:54 PM)

Read # 16. There is no other way to answer this person. Your use of words (ex. stupid) is not effective, either. Refer to #17.

Fifty Dollar Fine, (1/26/2008 9:24:05 PM)

#17 Anonymous Coward - "The manner in which you speak & write demonstrates that you do not know very much about higher education, or professional criteria."

Uh-huh.

insider 50 +, glenpool (1/26/2008 9:30:17 PM)

as old stuff, nothing is different in any of this.
#9 my heart and prayers are with you unfortunately our family is going through the same thing, we have a uncle that is sitting at home going through the same thing, it has got to the point that we dread to answer the phone. My heart and prayers, love are with you.

Fifty Dollar Fine, (1/26/2008 9:43:22 PM)

It should be a federal crime to give desperate people false hope, as the Roberts, Bakkers, TBN, Robertson, Hinn, Dollar, and the rest of these crooks have.

Deborah, Tulsa, Ok (1/26/2008 9:43:48 PM)

t\The academic need to study the word "stupid."

Jeff, Durango (1/27/2008 12:40:50 AM)

Corinthians 6:1-8 definitely instructs believers to not go to court against one another. If we do we only demonstrate that Christians are not capable of forgiving each other and what message does that send to the non believer.

If you get a chance, check out the movie called "Time Changer"
A christian sci-fi with a great insight into the "church of today".

What are the two greatest commandments according to Christ?
Matt 22 "Love the Lord thy God with all your heart, soul and mind" and then he goes on to say, the second greatest is like it, "Love your neighbor as yourself."

Jim, Claremont (1/27/2008 12:55:11 AM)

Matthew 18:15 - But if thy brother sin against thee, go, reprove him between thee and him alone. If he hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. ------

According to the lawsuit - it sounds as though the Word of God was not taken into consideration.

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From news source:
The lawsuit alleged Dr. Swails and Tim and Paulita Brooker were forced out after they reported ORU's involvement in a local political race and 'gave regents a report alleging moral and ethical problems' of Mr. Roberts and his family.