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Clinton, McCain rise in poll ranks

Sen. John McCain of Arizona AP photos

 
By RANDY KREHBIEL World Staff Writer
Published: 2/3/2008  1:45 AM
Last Modified: 2/3/2008  1:45 AM

Huckabee slips to second place among likely GOP voters.

Hillary Rodham Clinton improved her position among Oklahoma's Democratic voters during the past month, while the Republican side of the presidential primary race remained volatile, the latest Oklahoma Poll indicates.

The survey of 757 likely Oklahoma voters, conducted Jan. 27-30 by SoonerPoll.com for the Tulsa World and KOTV, channel 6, also found that the economy is now the foremost issue among Oklahoma voters as they head to the polls.

While Clinton widened her lead heading into the state's Tuesday primary, U.S. Sen. John McCain of Arizona jumped ahead in the GOP race after trailing former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee by double digits just four weeks earlier.

McCain was the choice of 40 percent of Republicans surveyed, up from less than 17 percent in December. Huckabee, meanwhile, dropped from 29 percent in December to 19 percent in the most recent poll.

"What's significant to me is the meteoric rise of John McCain and meteoric disaster of Rudy Giuliani," said poll consultant Al Soltow, University of Tulsa vice president for research. "McCain was at 23.2 in April, at 17 percent a month ago, and now he's at 40."

Giuliani, who led all Republicans by a wide margin in April, dropped to 12 percent in December and 5 percent in the most recent poll. The former New York City mayor dropped out on the last day of polling.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was at 17 percent, up from 9 percent in December, while U.S. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, the fourth remaining active candidate, was unchanged at 3 percent.

"I don't think anybody is enamored of the choices we have," said Republican Geraldine Voorhees of Broken Arrow. "The reason Obama and Clinton have done so well is that Republicans have such poor choices."

McCain was significantly weaker in the Tulsa metropolitan area than in Oklahoma City and the rest of the state, drawing just 29 percent here compared to the mid-40s everywhere else.

Huckabee was at 26 percent in Tulsa, about his December level, while Romney jumped from 11 to 22 percent.

For Huckabee, a Baptist preacher, the bad news was that even evangelical Christians were more likely to support McCain. Only the most ardently religious -- those who attend services several times a week -- favored Huckabee.

Still, Huckabee's background and populist message have some enthusiastic followers.

"He seems to make more sense than the rest of them," said Charles Schmitt of Tulsa. "He seems to speak more on my level. I like the fact he's Southern Baptist. I'm a Southern Baptist."

Tamra Johnson of Pryor said she is socially conservative like Huckabee and has received good reports about him from family members in Arkansas.

"He doesn't stutter over what he says. He seems to be more honest," Johnson said.

McCain supporters emphasized his experience, both in the military and as a long-term member of Congress.

Besides the four active candidates, California U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter, Colorado U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, former Tennessee U.S. Sen. Fred Thompson, Jerry Curry, Daniel Gilbert and Alan Keyes will be on Oklahoma's GOP ballot on Tuesday.

Among Democrats, the percentage planning to vote for Clinton increased from 34 to 41 percent. Former North Carolina U.S. Sen. John Edwards, who suspended his campaign on the last day of polling, remained steady in the mid-20s, while U.S. Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois improved slightly, to 17 percent from just under 15. Sixteen percent statewide still were undecided.

"It appears that Clinton will be the winner in the Oklahoma primary," Soltow said. "What happens to Obama is largely dependent on where Edwards' votes go.

"Regardless of where they go, it doesn't change the likely outcome. The only thing it will do is determine who picks up the most delegates."

At least one of those Edwards supporters said he probably will stay home on Tuesday.

"I think I may save my vote until the general election," said Sam Henry of Bixby. "The Democrats aren't going to have anyone I want to vote for."

Henry said McCain now is his first choice.

The decision between Clinton and Obama seems to be a matter of weighing Clinton's experience against Obama's charisma.

"I'm not worried about experience," said Jim Sewell of Tulsa. "Look what experience got us with (Dick) Cheney and (Donald) Rumsfeld. I just think Obama's a sharp guy. If he's elected -- and I don't think he will make it -- his image alone would change the world's opinion of us."

Sandra Berenson sees it differently.

"To not look at someone's resume is unthinkable," the Broken Arrow woman said. "Not that Mr. Obama isn't a wonderful person, but he just hasn't been around long enough."

Clinton's support was uniform statewide, but Obama polled 10 percentage points better in Oklahoma City than in Tulsa or the nonmetropolitan areas.

Clinton, Edwards and Obama, along with Connecticut U.S. Sen. Chris Dodd, Ohio U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson and Jim Rogers will be on the Democratic ballot.

Asked to name the issue that mattered the most in their decision about a presidential candidate, 22 percent said the economy, up from less than 11 percent just one month ago. The war in Iraq, named by one-third of the respondents in an April Oklahoma Poll and by 22 percent in December, came in second at 19 percent.

Candidate characteristics, such as honesty or experience, ranked third at 11 percent.

Interestingly, a number of hot-button issues such as abortion, gun control, Social Security and ideology barely registered. Immigration was named by only 5 percent, and moral and religious issues dropped from 11 to 6 percent.

Concerns about the economy were uniform across party and ideological lines, but Republicans were less likely to be concerned about the war than Democrats and independents. Republicans, on the other hand, were more likely to cite national security as their top issue.

The poll also asked which candidate is the strongest leader, best understands problems of voters, is most honest and trustworthy and has the best experience to become president.


If the presidential primary election were held today, who would you vote for?

REPUBLICANS

John McCain 40%
Mike Huckabee 19%
Mitt Romney 17%
*Rudy Giuliani 5%
Ron Paul 3%
Other 2%
Don’t know/Refused 14%

DEMOCRATS

Hillary Clinton 41%
*John Edwards 24%
Barack Obama 17%
Other 2%
Don’t know/Refused 16%
* withdrew


What is the single most important issue to you in your choice for president?

Economy 22%
War in Iraq 19%
Candidate quality issues 11%
National security 7%
Morals/religious issues 6%
Health care 6%
Immigration 5%
Other/Don’t know/refused 24%


About the Oklahoma Poll

Soonerpoll.com conducted the scientific telephone survey Jan. 27-30 of 757 voters registered in Oklahoma.

The respondents consisted of 306 Republicans, 426 Democrats, 24 independents and one Libertarian selected randomly from voters who have established a frequent voting pattern. The margin of error is plus or minus 3.56 percentage points.

For questions asked of all 306 Republicans, the margin of error is plus or minus 5.6 percentage points. For questions asked of all 426 Democrats, the margin of error is plus or minus 4.75 percentage points.

For questions asked only of the 290 Republicans planning to vote in the Tuesday presidential primary, the margin of error is plus or minus 5.75 percentage points.

For questions asked only of the 405 Democrats planning to vote Tuesday, the margin of error is plus or minus 4.87 percentage points.

The Oklahoma Poll is sponsored by the Tulsa World and KOTV, channel 6.


Randy Krehbiel 581-8365
randy.krehbiel@tulsaworld.com

By RANDY KREHBIEL World Staff Writer

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Linda Peacock, Houston, Texas (2/3/2008 3:27:42 AM)
I urge Edawrds supporters to vote for Edwards. He can still win delegates and your voice will be heard at the convention.
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Buddy Brown, Tulsa (2/3/2008 3:36:33 AM)
While Obama seems like a really nice Person, His rallies and answers at the debates always sound like He is pandering; including all the "key" catch phrases... Hillary actually explains in detail Her plans and ideas, with substance... I would hope that the OTHER Candidates on the Democratic ballots on Tuesday are not voted for; just wasting those votes...
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Hillary, for the win (2/3/2008 7:19:50 AM)
It's funny, as worked up as okies get about immigration, it's the least important concern for voters. Does that tell you anything?
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E T, tulsa (2/3/2008 8:25:08 AM)
I don't beleive in these polls. they don't even poll 1 percent of the people and the calls could have all come from east tulsa where all the illegals reside. after listening to hillary and obama air out their dirty laundry on each other, to which neither said was not true, I don't know how anyone could vote for either. McCain is just as bad as obama or hillary. Isn't is interesting that hillary couldn't remember anything under oath but could remember everything in her books she wrote.
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James, Weatherford (2/3/2008 9:08:05 AM)
Nothing could be sweeter than to see TWO candidates win who are so abhorred by knuckle-draggers like Rush Limbaugh and his minions. It's a dream come true!
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Tired, Tulsa (2/3/2008 9:35:52 AM)
"I don't think anybody is enamored of the choices we have," said Republican Geraldine Voorhees of Broken Arrow. "The reason Obama and Clinton have done so well is that Republicans have such poor choices."

Yo! Idiot! Huckabee is my first choice, but regardless of who the Republicans put up against the Democrats, they would be a better choice that Queen Hilary or Obama. You don't seem to have a clue what a "poor" choice is.
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akupetsky, Tulsa (2/3/2008 10:30:00 AM)
Vote your conscience, but here is why I'm voting for Obama. He has the ability to inspire and convince people to pull themselves up with their own bootstraps - something even a libertarian or other republican can admire - while still fighting for the ideals (such as universal health care, anti-poverty and workers' rights) that Democrats hold dear. He does so without alientating people, and he does so effectively, as you can see in his time in the Illinois and US legislatures. He is supported by some of the most conservative democrats (Nelson of NE and Kaine of VA) along with some of the most liberal, as well as many newspapers including the Dallas Morning News. He is what we need to bring the United States back from its foreign policy nightmare - just by being elected, he brings us back to the starting line, and he surrounds himself with smart, effective foreign policy people such as Dick Lugar.
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Kyle, Del City (2/3/2008 11:14:14 AM)
Jim Rogers has received my vote.
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nycvoter, (2/3/2008 11:31:09 AM)
I think compromise and reconciliation are good ideas, but if you start from a weak position, like not asking for universal health care, you'll never get there and only Hillary's plan, like that of John Edwards, aims to be universal.
A quote also says look what experience Cheney and Rumsfeld gave us, but the issue is really that a inexperience GWB who just wanted to have a vision left the day to day up to other people with more experience and that's what happened. We need a strong leader who understands how to roll up her sleeves and manage multiple goals within the first year, from health care to energy to our economy and foreign policy all while getting us out of Iraq. It can't be left to others but needs to be managed by the President, and that's why you should vote for Hillary Clinton
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The Dude, Tulsa (2/3/2008 11:50:38 AM)
I refuse to vote to allow one of the two families who have controlled the presidency since George H.W. Bush to remain in office another four years. Sorry, Baby Boomers and Old Guarders, your reign of terror is almost over. Congratulations, you've screwed everything up for your children and grandchildren. I will not be part of it. This vote goes toward Obama.
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Barbara, T-Town (2/3/2008 11:53:34 AM)
I would love to see McCain win, that would be a show in for the democrats, no matter who it is. Only 351 days and 23 hours til the chump is GONE 1-20-09!
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Barbara, T-Town (2/3/2008 11:54:38 AM)
correction, shoe in!
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Brandon, Waynesboro (2/3/2008 11:59:25 AM)
To Akupetsky, Tulsa:

I find it ironic that Obama apparently holds dear our "democratic ideals" such as universal healthcare, when he DOESN'T EVEN SUPPORT UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE. That's one of the main reasons I support Hillary. At this day and age, it's ridiculous that we have such a flawed healthcare system so I look to someone like Hillary who clearly has a passion for making change in that area (she has the experience to prove it too) instead of someone like Obama who is likely to make false promises.

Hillary for President!
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Union Steals My Pay, Tulsa 36th North - Mingo (2/3/2008 12:34:01 PM)
While the Labor Union steals my pay to give it to the politcians using the AFL-CIO, Labor Councils, and Lies to laundry the money, I laugh everytime the Candidate they support falls out of polling data. First Edwards gots our paycheck, then he pulls out of the race one day after a small group shows up at the Union Hall, now Obama is trailing Clinton while the Union backs Obama.

The Union has NO Political Power, the leaders are all smoking crack or getting drunk causing a false belief that they have some meaning. They are doing nothing more than having parties with our paychecks while they negotiate concessions against our livelyhood.

What is sad is the Union is allowed to steal our money for politics under threat of termination while the members support and vote for other candidates than the what the leaders have funded. How American is that?
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DavidS, Tulsa (2/3/2008 1:01:13 PM)
Well we remember how well these polls did with the last Mayoral race..... Silly stuff
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Flash, (2/3/2008 1:32:59 PM)
There is a Huckster Born Every Minute

To paraphrase the Jews, this is "bad for the evangelicals."

As far as I can tell, it's mostly secular liberals swooning over Huckabee. Liberals adore Huckabee because he fits their image of what an evangelical should be: fat, stupid and easily led.

Hey! How about adults privately smoking cigarettes in their homes? Huckabee wants a federal law banning smoking IN YOUR OWN HOME!

Huckabee claims he opposes gay marriage and says Scalia is his favorite justice, but The Huckster supports a Supreme Court decision denounced by Scalia for paving the way to a "constitutional right" to gay marriage. I guess The Huckster is one of those pro-sodomy, pro-gay marriage, pro-evolution evangelical Christians.

No wonder Huckabee is the evangelical liberals like.

Huckster's been cavorting with the legacy of the White Citizens' Council -- the Council of Conservative Citizens, a group listed as a white supremacist organization by the Southern Poverty Law Center. That's why the South thinks Huckster is the best candidate if Obama is nominated. Rumours are that McCain will pick The Huckster for VP.

"In the 1930s, the socialist intellectual H.G. Wells called for the creation of a "liberal fascism," which he envisioned as a totalitarian state governed by an oligarchy of benevolent experts. In Liberal Fascism, Jonah Goldberg brilliantly traces the intellectual roots of fascism to their surprising source, showing not only that its motivating ideas derive from the left but that the liberal fascist impulse is alive and well among contemporary progressives-and is even a temptation for compassionate conservatives."

"With someone like Huckabee; with someone who actually takes compassionate conservatism seriously, you've got this vision that the government can do anything it sets its mind to, and that the measure of good public policy is how much you care. That, to me, is a very scary turn of events in American politics."
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Dan, Texas (2/3/2008 1:59:14 PM)
Guess OK is going republican anyway, so doesn't matter much what happens on the dem side. Texas seems to have Clinton in the lead. This has inspired me to get out there and try to convince people to go with Obama. He is the better leader. Here Clinton has ALL the advantage of political patronage and favors to call in. Obama has done an amazing job of organizing and leading in this campaign. If he runs Washington one-tenth as well as he runs his campaign, we'll have integrity, an end to waste, fraud and abuse, and the best minds of either party will be welcome to throw their ideas into the ring. I trust Obama to make wise decisions about what to do, because he's done it in the past. I want common sense, not backdoor political payback.
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Chaya, (2/3/2008 2:31:13 PM)
Jerry Curry is the only one with real leadership abilities and can represent the GOP! Go to curryforamerica
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George, (2/3/2008 2:38:27 PM)
Well Dan #21 ordinarily I would agree with you 100% to the point that I secretely suspected Oklahoma would be the only state to put solid support behind a write in program to draft GW for a third term. Its tough now though bc okie voters firmly follow whatever Limbaugh tells them to do. But its tough to vote for a Morton when you are the buckle of the Bible belt. So they are "Follow Rush or Jesus, Rush or Jesus, Rush or Jesus? Can I get back to you with an answer?"

Meanwhile McCain is now branded as unclean by the rightie radicals so that is just gonig to confuse an okie. I suspect many will just stay home rather than think for themselves which will leave only the small amount of moderates to vote. That may tip the state toward McCain.
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Vote McCain, (2/3/2008 3:33:57 PM)
Illegals have a great chance of becoming legal with McCain. Everyone lets all vote for McCain and we can join with Mexico and have open borders. Thanks GOP.
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Sarah, (2/3/2008 4:33:08 PM)
Experience matters!
I am a young woman and educator. I am supporting Hillary Clinton for president. If we want to make real changes then we need a person with experience and a real plan! She is the best candidate to deal with world issues and keep our country safe. She is the only one with an economic plan and the experience to get the economy back on track. Hillary also supports better funding for education and protecting the environment. Hillary Clinton has the knowledge and experience to solve the serious issues our country is facing. She gets my vote!
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larry, tulsa (2/3/2008 5:02:03 PM)
McCAIN’S PAST IMMIGRATION ACTIONS TO SUPPORT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION

In just the past four years, John McCain has taken the following actions to support illegal immigration:

McCAIN: WEAK ON SECURING THE BORDER & ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAWS

* 2006- Sen. McCain voted against extending the border fence in the Sessions Amendment (2) to H.R. 5441.
* 2006- Sen. McCain voted to prevent the border fence from being built by voting in favor of the Managers Amendment to S. 2611, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006.
* 2006- Sen. McCain voted to allow illegal aliens to receive Social Security by voting to table the Ensign Amendment to S. 2611, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006.
* 2006- Sen. McCain voted against funding additional immigration investigators by voting against the Sessions Amendment (1) to H.R. 5441.
* 2005- Sen. McCain voted against providing funding for additional Border Patrol and ICE agents by voting against the Byrd Amendment to H.R. 1268.
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Patrick, Tulsa (2/3/2008 7:23:26 PM)
Amnesty John McCain.Kennedy- McCain would have legalized millions of illegal alien lawbreakers.Vote Romney.
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Fifty Dollar Fine, (2/3/2008 8:03:14 PM)
#1 Linda - "I urge Edawrds supporters to vote for Edwards. He can still win delegates and your voice will be heard at the convention. "

Interesting. I didn't think of that. I was so sad when he dropped out prior to "Mega Tuesday". Thx for the reminder.
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soonerforedwards, (2/3/2008 10:49:48 PM)
Edwards can still get delegates indeed. I have also heard that what he does next could be heavily influenced by his numbers on Tuesday. The general election is the time, if any, to vote your party. The primary is the time to vote FOR somebody, somebody YOU want as president. If that was John Edwards before he suspended his campaign, I urge you to stick with that on Feb. 5th.
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