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Oklahoma legislator's anti-gay comments stir hostile reaction
By TIM TALLEY, Associated Press
Published:
3/10/2008 1:05 PM
Last Modified: 7/23/2008 5:17 PM
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OKLAHOMA CITY -- A Republican member of the Oklahoma Legislature has received death threats since telling a political group that "the homosexual agenda is just destroying this nation" and poses a bigger threat to the U.S. than terrorism or Islam.
"I'm not gay-bashing. But according to God's word that is not the right kind of lifestyle," Rep. Sally Kern of Oklahoma City said during an appearance before a group of Republicans. Her comments were recorded and posted on the video sharing Web site YouTube on Friday.
"Studies
show no society that has totally embraced homosexuality has lasted more than a few decades," Kern says in the recorded comments. "It is not a lifestyle that is good for this nation."
On Monday, Kern said her comments were edited and taken out of context. Kern said they were directed at wealthy, politically active homosexuals who are contributing money to gay and lesbian candidates for public office in Oklahoma and other states.
"I was talking about an agenda. I was not talking about individuals," said Kern, the wife of a Baptist minister. "They have the right to choose that lifestyle. They do not have the right to force it down our throat.
"I have never said hate speech against anybody. I would never do that."
Kern said she has received more than 3,000 e-mails and hundreds of telephone calls since her comments were posted online. She said a few supported her comments but that most condemned them and that some contained death threats and obscenities.
"I hear what you said and you should be killed...," said one.
"You honestly think that homosexuality is a greater threat than terrorism?" said another. "How someone as petulant and vile as yourself got elected to office, I will never understand."
The only openly gay member of the state Legislature, Rep. Al McAffrey, D-Oklahoma City, said Kern's comments have alarmed gay voters in Kern's district and elsewhere in the nation.
"It saddens me that we hear bigotry from our representatives," said McAffrey, who embraced Kern as the two lawmakers discussed her comments about gays in a state Capitol hallway Monday morning.
"There is not a gay agenda," McAffrey told The Associated Press afterward. "There are a lot of people who have money who are willing to support progressive candidates."
McAffrey said he is a father and a grandfather. "And I happen to be gay. I think we need to look at individuals."
In her recorded comments, Kern expressed concern that gay candidates "are winning elections" and control city councils in Arkansas, Maryland and other states.
A former teacher, Kern also said gays are teaching young public school children that their lifestyle is acceptable. "We're not teaching facts and knowledge anymore. We're teaching indoctrination," Kern said.
"We have the gay-straight alliance coming into our schools. Kids are getting involved in these groups, their lives are being ruined," she said. "They are going after our young children, as young as two years of age, to try to teach them that the homosexual lifestyle is an acceptable lifestyle.
"This stuff is deadly and it's spreading and it will destroy our young people, it will destroy this nation."
In a response to one e-mail, Kern said she was primarily concerned about "the aggressive movement" to support gay candidates across the nation and in Oklahoma, where a gay candidate is seeking a statewide office.
Jim Roth, a member of the Oklahoma Corporation Commission who is openly gay, is seeking a full six-year term on the commission that regulates utilities and the oil and gas industry.
"As a public official I have taken an oath to serve 100 percent of our citizens and I only wish that Representative Kern would honor the same spirit of our democracy," said Roth, a Democrat and former Oklahoma County commissioner who was appointed to the statewide position by Gov. Brad Henry last year.
"My focus is on serving the citizens of Oklahoma, not on responding to the rantings of an angry legislator. We all have a duty to serve all people," Roth said. "The politics of division and demagoguery only steal the future from what our state needs for everyone's sake."
By TIM TALLEY, Associated Press
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Tony
, Tulsa (3/10/2008 2:22:27 PM)
I'll take my chances with a society that is open and tolerant over Kern's preference for another Dark Ages.
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jack briggs
, tulsa (3/10/2008 2:21:13 PM)
While she may not have said it the best way, she is more correct than not. She seems to be frustrated with the gay agenda to make this 'lifestyle' more mainstream, and i share her frustration. This should be a private subject - I don't care what gays do in their own bedroom. If they'd quit making headlines out of it and TV shows , they'd have a lot less problem.
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RW
, Tulsa (3/10/2008 2:20:35 PM)
This just adds to the stack of reasons, why people leave Oklahoma. And I can't wait to move.
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Lulu
, Tulsa (3/10/2008 2:19:00 PM)
Respecting someone's right to have an opinion in no way equates to condoning that opinion.
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SRV
, (3/10/2008 2:18:40 PM)
Another reason to vote Democrat. Man, I can't wait for these elections. The Democrats are going to pick up house and senate seats as well as the White House! :)
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Constitutional Rights Protector
, Tulsa (3/10/2008 2:12:08 PM)
Very well stated "Good Grief". I agree completely!
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Whatever Jimmy
, Tulsa (3/10/2008 2:37:49 PM)
Jim Roth??? hahahahaha! You didn't even BOTHER to respond when we attempted to contact you to complain about being without power for a week and more recently to complain about AEPPSO billing us "late" charges, when our bill wasn't late but they threw out some excuse "well because of the ice storm we got behind" - whatever! That's their problem. And again when AEPPSO said they wanted to raise our rates. You spew forth your so called promises to "serve the people" - roflmfao! You didn't return one single phone call.
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To #16 - Lulu
, (3/10/2008 2:11:11 PM)
No one is saying she shouldn't have the right to say what she said - they are saying it's ridiculous hate speech to equate being homosexual (which is not a choice) with terrorism. And she didn't even do that - she said it was worse. Give me a break - if you want to defend that, go ahead. I think the KKK has the right to spew whatever vile racist speech they won't, but that doesn't mean i have to condone it as you apparently think we all need to.
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Good grief
, Tulsa (3/10/2008 2:09:04 PM)
A few things. First, it’s also worth mentioning that she didn’t say radical Islamic terrorists are a danger to our country – she said Islam. That suggests she equates all Muslims with terrorists. Second, thanks to “don’t ask- don’t tell” we have hundreds, if not thousands of gay men and women quietly serving in our armed forces, protecting her right to say what she’s saying. It’s quite ironic that she thinks they’re part of the most dangerous thing in America.
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Ignorance Runs Wild
, Tulsa (3/10/2008 2:07:37 PM)
Matthew 7
1Do not judge others, then you will not be judged.
2The way you judge others, that is the way you will be judged. How much you give to others is how much will be given to you.
3`Why do you look at the spot of dust in your brother's eye? But you do not see a big stick in your own eye!
We are ALL God's children and He is the one who will judge us. Keep that in mind Mrs. Kern, you too will be Judged!
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Lulu
, Tulsa (3/10/2008 2:07:08 PM)
It is not necessary for anyone to agree with Mrs. Kern, but she does have a guaranteed right to express her opinion, as do the gay citizens of this country. I find it hypocrytical that a group which is seeking greater rights would seek to deny others the right of free speech. I am not homophobic and I have no "agenda" other than to hope that everyone will respect the right of free speech, even when we disagree with what is being said.
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Ron
, Jenks (3/10/2008 2:04:56 PM)
I agree with #2 disgusted. After attending an immigration symposium last week, it appears Oklahoma is all Hate all the time. There is a difference in discussing issues and advocating hate, and she crossed the line. I predict her resignation.
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Tom
, Irving (3/10/2008 2:03:16 PM)
DC, EVERYONE "pushes" for acceptance. We all have that as an agenda. I don't oppose your agenda for acceptance. To do so would make me a bigot. To oppose your lifestyle (whatever it is) would make me a self-righteous hypocrite if I assume my behavior is superior to yours (even if it's mowing the lawn in your cutoffs and keeping a tattered flag on a pole 24 hrs a day), what I've done is create a divisive atmosphere and one ripe for hate crimes and discrimination. Don't you think it made it a lot easier for Tim McVey to do what he did by Republicans like Inhofe harping on "jack-booted Federal thugs" ?
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Citizen
, Tulsa (3/10/2008 2:02:39 PM)
This woman is the biggest threat facing America today - intolerance. I hope we can rally and put a good liberal Democrat in her seat next session - she's term limited but that doesn't mean we can't stop her from passing the seat to someone like-minded. I would be willing to bet this is exactly what her Baptist preacher husband spews from the pulpit on Sundays, too. What an embarrassment to a great state.
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D
, Tulsa (3/10/2008 2:00:01 PM)
Thank you Mrs. Kern! As # 9 said, we are to just blindly accept others way of life otherwise we are labled as a bigot. I applaud you for going out on that limb and exposing part of what is wrong with our country. If God intended for like sexes to be together intimatly he would've made us to where both sexes could reproduce. All of those bashing Kern will see the error of their ways when Jesus comes back and takes the Christians, leaving the rest to fight it out amongst themselves. I personally can't wait for that day to come! You are in my prayers!
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Anthony Bhal
, tulsa (3/10/2008 1:56:15 PM)
Kern says that homos are more dangerous to this country than Islamic terrorists. She should know, Islamic terrorist and Kern want to make their religion law. You can choose your religion, you can not choose to be gay or straight.
Sally Kern you are the bigger threat.
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hrw
, tulsa (3/10/2008 1:53:11 PM)
The homosexual lifestyle is perverted. It belongs in the closet, along with all the other unexceptable morals that have become lax in recent years. It is proven to be unhealthy with HIV, HPV, AIDS and a multitude of other side affects. If you condone this kind of sexuality then you are wrong morally.
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DC
, (3/10/2008 1:47:25 PM)
Thank you, Kern. And, it is not hate. It is opposition to a behavior and lifestyle. No, it is not the equivalent to a bomb or other terrorist action. Yes, the push for acceptance is an agenda. Acceptance is happening because it is referred to and seen more and more in TV, movies, comedy acts, etc. To be politically correct and not a bigot, we are told to accept.
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Frank B
, (3/10/2008 1:42:24 PM)
Studies Show? What studies are those? Do produce some evidence of that. Oh wait, this is a Christian and of course Christians have no evidence of their belief -- so why not just make up a study! OXOXOX
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HH
, Tulsa (3/10/2008 1:38:55 PM)
I don't see how Rep. Kern can say that her statements were taken out of context. They all sound pretty hateful to me. For being a Baptist Minister's wife, she really needs a lesson in tolerance.
There is supposed to be a seperation of Church & State. If she wants to make these types of comments in her own home, or her own church, that is her perogative. However, she should not be using her State position to make these types of comments.
Oklahoma continually surprises me with the bigoted, backwards types of comments that come from people in this state. For being a part of the Bible Belt, there is a very prejudiced and bigoted tone to many comments & statements from residents of this state. It is truly embarrassing.
We all, as HUMAN BEINGS, need to recognize that there are many different religions, lifestyles, and belief systems out there. We do not need to agree with each one, but each person deserves a level of respect & tolerance as a human being. We need to not be as hateful as these types of comments show that we can be.
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WV reader
, Charleston WV (3/10/2008 1:38:27 PM)
Spewing hatred destroys decency, it does not enhance it.
Calling homosexuals terrorists is vile, but mostly it invokes a feeling of sadness in the audience. Kern would be right at home in the Roman Coliseum cheering on the lions as they slaughtered the misunderstood Christians.
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H
, Tulsa (3/10/2008 1:35:13 PM)
"FOR DECENT MORALS" AND SALLY KERN- How do we let such ignorant, closed-minded people hold positions in this state? You invariably find something to "fear" about everything in this world, and usually about people who do nothing but make our lives richer and fuller. I actually feel sorry for you because it must not be comfortable being so filled with hate on a daily basis. I pray that your beliefs in condemnation of anyone "different" than yourselves don't filter down to future generations. In fact, it is usually what we don't like about ourselves, that we hate about others. So just give it up, be a hero and come out of that closet loud and proud!!! Some of us will love you unconditionally!
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K
, Tulsa (3/10/2008 1:34:45 PM)
It is truely unfortunate that one of our State leaders cannot seperate her personal feelings from her duty as as a public figure. Whether she believe it or not, sexual orientation is not a choice anymore than a persons race or gender is a choice. Why would anyone choose to be persecuted and ridiculed in such a manner? She qualifies her comments with "I'm not gay bashing" but that is exactly what she goes on to do. She is speaking out of ignorance and it is disgusting and disgraceful that someone such as this is representing us.
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Manuel
, Sacramento, ca (3/10/2008 1:34:30 PM)
Why do okie republicans hate so much?
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disgusted
, tulsa (3/10/2008 1:25:38 PM)
New Oklahoma license plate;
"OKLAHOMA THE HATE STATE"
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