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Law no threat to tribal hiring

A sign opposing House Bill 1804, which was passed last year, hangs at Tacos San Pedro, where Emiliano Gutierrez takes a customer’s order. Tulsa World file

 
By OMER GILLHAM World Staff Writer
Published: 3/16/2008  1:33 AM
Last Modified: 3/16/2008  1:33 AM

Oklahoma's Indian tribes appear to be exempt from a new state law that goes after illegal workers and makes it a felony to transport or harbor illegal immigrants.

House Bill 1804 became effective in November. Business leaders have filed a federal lawsuit to stop the bill from being fully implemented and therefore thwart added requirements to verify the legal status of workers.

Beginning July 1, contractors must use a verification system to determine the legal status of workers and independent contractors.

Meanwhile, most of Oklahoma's Indian tribes have federal status, shielding them from HB 1804, tribal officials said.

Cherokee Nation spokesman Mike Miller said that the Cherokees are abiding by federal laws that govern a person's legal status to work in the United States.

"There have been no changes in (hiring) policy at Cherokee Nation and our businesses since the passage of the state law," Miller said. "We continue our long-standing policy of following the federal I-9 process, which requires proof of U.S. citizenship for all new hires."

The Cherokee Nation employs 6,500 workers through its government and business operations, Miller said.

Miller gave the demographic breakdown of Cherokee Nation workers as 70 percent American Indian U.S. citizens and 30 percent nontribal U.S. citizens or legal residents.

All Cherokee Nation employees have filled out an I-9 form, which means they have provided documentation that verifies their legal status to hold a job, Miller said.

Tribal and nontribal employers across America are required to use I-9 forms. Under this federal system, workers must fill out the form and present valid documentation that shows U.S. citizenship, legal residency or other documentation that shows permission to work in the United States.

House Bill 1804 adds an additional level of verification that requires an employer to check a person's Social Security number or other personal information through a national database. The bill targets illegal workers holding jobs in the state.

Meanwhile, the Choctaw and Chickasaw nations employ 8,300 workers and 10,000 workers, respectively. Like the Cherokees, these tribes apparently will not be required to use the worker verification procedures built into HB 1804.

Choctaw and Chickasaw officials said all of their workers have legal working status as outlined by federal hiring practices.

The Cherokee, Chickasaw and Choctaw nations are among the state's Top 25 employers, records show.

Attorney General Drew Edmondson's office agreed that the tribes could have exemption status from the new law.

"Unfortunately, there is not a simple answer," said Emily Lang, a spokeswoman for Edmondson. "Some provisions of House Bill 1804 may apply to the tribes, while some may not."

Oklahoma has 37 federally recognized tribes and two tribes that have sought federal recognition.

While the I-9 system has been fraught with problems involving fake citizenship papers, work permits and green cards, there are new changes to shore up the system.

For example, in 2007, the government eliminated several A-List items that could be used to verify a worker's legal status for employment.

The A-List involves documents that show a person's eligibility to legally hold a job in the United States.

Items that were easily faked and therefore eliminated from the A-List are: certificate of U.S. citizenship; certificate of naturalization; alien registration receipt card (I-151); unexpired re-entry permit (I-327); and unexpired refugee travel documentation.

State Rep. Randy Terrill, R-Moore, said HB 1804 addresses all employers but it is calibrated to target illegal workers in the construction and services trades.

That means that road construction companies, building contractors, agriculture processing, hotel workers, restaurant workers and landscapers are the targets.

"Illegal labor is primarily concentrated in these areas," Terrill said. "The language of the bill is our method to calibrate it to target the problem at hand."


Omer Gillham 581-8301
omer.gillham@tulsaworld.com

By OMER GILLHAM World Staff Writer

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oldrusty, tulsa (3/16/2008 4:06:16 AM)
Ha-HA, Terrill, the Indians got you,First Casinos and next the Indians are gonna have all the construction, and fast food joints, and landscapers., You wont have squat to stand on. Good going legislators , The Indians are the nations greatest asset think we need a law that says you must be an Indian to be elected to public office.
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Anthony Bhal, Tulsa (3/16/2008 7:43:11 AM)
I foresee Indian Staffing Companies. If they can hire an Illegal worker. Then in turn you hire the Legal company. This is a huge loophole in HB1804.

Lookout express temp and all the others. Unfair play and pay will soon begin.
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Graychin, Eucha (3/16/2008 8:30:04 AM)
Has anyone ever heard of comment spam? You can find an excellent example, right here on this thread.

All our troubles started because the first Americans didn't have a sufficiently restrictive immigration policy. So it's only right that the tribes get to take some revenge on us here in the 21st century.
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Lawrence, Tulsa (3/16/2008 9:54:08 AM)
I support the Indians in this effort to bypass HB1804. Soon it will be overturned anyway.
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sam, tulsa (3/16/2008 9:58:04 AM)
what does #3 have to do with 1804?
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ndnoutlaw99, Tulsa (3/16/2008 10:38:05 AM)
Native Americans have had relations with the neighboring South American Peoples since time immemorial. All I hear about are people talking about illegal immigrants invading the United States. The past cannot be changed only the future. I don't support HB1804 because these people are human beings and should be treated as such. These so-called christians who preach about loving thy neighbor are a bunch of hypocrites! These people come up from a third world country to make their lives better. In the Constitution it says America is the land of opportunity! For who? The ones who have pushed genocide on another Indigenous Peoples for the sake of opportunity. They don't teach you that in the history classes across the country because they would find out everyone is an immigrant here in the United States except the Native American tribes who were here back then and who are still here. They survived genocide that was pushed by European contact when the Spaniard Chris Columbus arrived on this continent. So before you start bashing anyone, read a book and learn your culture!
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C.G. , Tulsa (3/16/2008 10:59:20 AM)
Guess I had better read the story again,I thought I read that the tribes already make sure that new hires are legal citizens.
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To confused Lawrence, Tulsa (3/16/2008 11:02:35 AM)
5. 3/16/2008 9:54:08 AM, Lawrence, Tulsa
I support the Indians in this effort to bypass HB1804. Soon it will be overturned anyway.

How do you see that, Lawrence? The Indian tribes in Oklahoma support HB1804. Why would they bypass it?
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C.G., Tulsa (3/16/2008 11:08:35 AM)
Just read it again,missed some of their hiring documentation, if all employers used the same procdures the tribes use,we would not need some of the HB1804 provisions.
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Nice try, TW, Tulsa (3/16/2008 11:13:14 AM)
"There have been no changes in (hiring) policy at Cherokee Nation and our businesses since the passage of the state law," Miller said. "We continue our long-standing policy of following the federal I-9 process, which requires proof of U.S. citizenship for all new hires."

WHAT'S THIS? The Cherokee Nation, as well as Choctaw and Chickasaw Nations, as some of the largest employers in Oklahoma, continue to FOLLOW FEDERAL LAW in their hiring practices?

Way to go, Cherokee, Choctaw, and Chickasaw Nations !!!!!!!!!!!

"Law no threat to tribal hiring" should read "Law will not impact tribal practice of continuing to follow federal law"
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Nice try, TW, Tulsa (3/16/2008 11:27:46 AM)
TW, are you telling us that "Tacos San Pedro" is a TRIBAL BUSINESS????????

WHY DIDN'T YOU USE THE CASINO PICTURE AS THE MAIN PICTURE FOR THIS ARTICLE?

THE CASINO PICTURE SHOWS THAT BUSINESS IS BOOMING AT THE CHEROKEE CASINO IN CATOOSA, EVEN WITH THE TRIBE'S PRACTICE OF FOLLOWING FEDERAL LAW!

What a joke? Aren't you people even a little ashamed of how biased and unbalanced your reporting is? Why don't you post your "opinions" on the editorial page, and stop trying to fabricate "news".

I wonder if these tribes feel like you slammed them in this article?
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B. V., Tulsa (3/16/2008 12:47:14 PM)
I'm full blood Cherokee. I'm for HB 1804. There's nothing stopping me from wanting illegals out of this country. Why should I want them here? I haven't heard an excuse good enough, yet.
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Shame on TW, Tulsa (3/16/2008 12:56:37 PM)
I agree with those who posted that this article was definately twisted to appear as though native tribes were legally bypassing our new law.

Those who really read the article can see that most of the major tribes already verify the legal right to work as part of their hiring practices.

There's a big difference between the fact that they are exempt from the requirements and the implication that they will employ illegal workers.

The use of a federal database may not a requirement for them, but it would probably make the work they already do faster and simpler.

The slant of the article and associated photo is transparent.

The criminal employers that have caused the need for HB1804 have been primarily non-native American businesses.

While the tribal exemption may leave room for abuse, I doubt that it will become a problem.

Our native employers tend to operate more ethically than the ones causing the problems.
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american, ba (3/16/2008 2:11:45 PM)
TW.....you use a picture (that I don't see what it has to do with the Indian Tribes in the first place) that wants to stop an american law so you use a sign in spanish. Somebody needed to think this one through better!
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To american, Tulsa (3/16/2008 3:09:49 PM)
american - seems like they "avoided" thinking this one through.
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America first, (3/16/2008 5:22:40 PM)
15. 3/16/2008 2:11:45 PM, american, ba
TW.....you use a picture (that I don't see what it has to do with the Indian Tribes in the first place) that wants to stop an american law so you use a sign in spanish. Somebody needed to think this one through better!
Do you mean Mexicans aren't indians? (tongue in cheek)

And so the Mexicans weren't here first then, and this isn't there land after all.

Now we know about another place not to eat,Tacos San Pedro, Mexico lindo and EL tequila because they want HB1804 over turned.
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Taylor, Tulsa (4/15/2008 1:36:01 PM)
In response to #1, The difference is the Indian Nations are Americans dating back before most other ethnic groups, they are LEGAL CITIZENS and you are trying to cloud the issue of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS not going through the process to become legal and the jobs they are taking from legal citizens. The Indian Nations are trustworthy and if they said they are abiding by Federal Law, they are. They make too much revenue to cause themselves unnecesry problems. By the way for the record I am white if it matters.
 

 
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