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Gay, lesbian groups show up at Capitol to protest Kern comments
Oklahoma state Rep. Sally Kern, R-Oklahoma City, is pictured at her desk on the floor of the House chamber on March 13. AP
By World Capitol Bureau
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3/18/2008 1:51 PM
Last Modified: 3/18/2008 2:32 PM
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OKLAHOMA CITY -- Advocates of gay and lesbian rights came to the Capitol in force on Tuesday hoping to meet with Rep. Sally Kern. But they said the lawmaker who said homosexuality was worse than "terrorists and Islam" was nowhere to found.
About 300 people gathered to protest Kern's recent comments, which ended up on YouTube and drew extensive national attention.
Robin Meyers, senior minister at Mayflower Congregational Church, said Kern's homophobic comments are a "national embarrassment for Oklahoma."
"It is frightening to me that Sally Kern is an elected official doing the people's business," he said.
James C. Shields, who said he lives in Kern's northwest Oklahoma City legislative district, said he went by her office to invite the lawmaker to the rally.
Kern's assistant said the lawmaker had "left for the day because she did not have any committee meetings."
Kern said later that she would be willing to meet next week with two or three people representing the gay and lesbian community.
"I'd have no problem meeting with them next week when I have my lawyer," she said. Kern said she is working with a lawyer from the Thomas More Law Center based in Ann Arbor, Mich. The law center described as a conservative Christian center has offices throughout the country.
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Susan
, Tulsa (3/18/2008 2:23:19 PM)
I think what she said was pretty interesting. Why should she have to resign for saying what she feels? My take on what she said was, while we are spending so much time worrying about gays and lesbians being treated 'fairly' the world around us is turning to crap. Who cares if some gay guys get 'married' when people can't afford healthcare and illegal immigrants have more rights than citizens and 6 year olds are playing with guns. There are a LOT bigger fish to fry than some gay rights.
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David
, (3/18/2008 2:24:36 PM)
Sally Kern stood up and said exactly what she thought about homosexuality and the homosexual agenda.
What happened next? The true nature of the "tolerance" that the homosexual agenda often pushed rose up. They sound real "tolerant" now, don't they?
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Steven
, Bixby (3/18/2008 2:35:59 PM)
More than welfare, I see those fat cats sititng on there behinds in DC in the Senate, Congress, House--as more of a drain on the economy than poor folks. Have you heard how much those people make and waste? They get those jobs and never leave. They can barely make it to the office and they still get that fat paycheck. And what's up with the Supreme Court Justices? They get a lifetime job..Get rid of those old folks and get some new blood in there. Re-elect them every 4 years like the president. Are we talking wasting money or gay rights?
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Mac
, Phoenix (3/18/2008 2:43:00 PM)
Man, I sure am I glad I moved away from Oklahoma over a decade ago!!! These comments sre ridiculous. Never realized there was so much hate mongering in OK. Show some tolerance people!! I guess you can not expect much more from the Bible Belt. Racsit, Sexist, Homophobes.....Welcome to Oklahoma.
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K
, Tulsa (3/18/2008 2:49:34 PM)
I think it is great that they are trying to confront her regarding her comments. She should have to answer for what she said and as a public official should make time to meet with her constituants. I would hope she does take her lawyer to the meeting. Maybe he can prevent her from saying something else stupid and derogatory. She got her say now let the gay and lesbian groups have theirs. It's only fair right? Free speech and all.
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Disgusted American
, deptford NJ (3/18/2008 2:49:39 PM)
As a PUBLIC servant Ms Kern should ALWAYS choose her words wisely....no one is saying she can't have her opinions..but when you represent ALL the people, You REPRESENT ALL the people...growing up in the 60's - religion WAS kept to one's self...as it should be. If Ms Kerns had substituted the word Gays/Lesbians and inserted Blacks,Spanish,Jews....she'd be in a HEAP of trouble...and probably be FORCED to resign. But being that Gays/Lesbians are the LAST bastion of Publically endorced Bigotry & discrimination...by some in the public USING a 2500yr old Book of mythes as a sheild of reference to thier bigotry. As an American who beleives in EQUALITY for ALL Americans - Ms Kerns falls quite short!
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Sherry
, Tulsa (3/18/2008 2:49:47 PM)
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination
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Bob
, Tulsa (3/18/2008 2:52:55 PM)
Sally Kern has a right to stand and proclaim her beliefs, just as any other American does. If she has upset the gay community, then they'll just have to get over it.
Good for you Sally! It's about time! Most of us are proud of you. God Speed and God Bless!
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gb
, sapulpa (3/18/2008 2:53:36 PM)
#4 is absolutely correct. Sally called a spade a spade and the queers went crazy. They want everybody to tolerate them, their press/media releases and their parades, but they they don't want to tolerate anyone else. GO SALLY GO!!!
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K,
, Broken Arrow (3/18/2008 2:58:40 PM)
Disgusted person from NJ. Glad you live there! When you are Black, Spanish, Jew-you are what you are. When you are gay/les you choose to be that. When you are stupid, you probably don't have much choice either.
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JesusRules
, (3/18/2008 3:07:51 PM)
Why do so many of you think it's okay for gays and lesbians to promote their agenda of disagreeing with Ms. Kern, yet it's not okay for Ms. Kern to disagree with their actions? That sounds mighty hypocritical to me. At least Ms. Kern has a solid foundation in the Bible for her beliefs. The few of those who disagree with her make it sound like Ms. Kern must be tolerant of everything put out by the queer community, yet the queers can't see your own intolerance of Christians in this world. Get over it!
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MB
, Tulsa (3/18/2008 3:08:53 PM)
Hello, she is suppose to represent the public, not just the ones ignorant enough to vote for her. That is why she should resign. Her private opinion is not in question, people.
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Mac
, Phoenix (3/18/2008 3:19:33 PM)
The Bible is a STORY....Not the absolute truth. Why people take a book written, at time when 90% of the world thought the Earth was FLAT, literal I will never understand. It is a great story on how to live a good life, but to take everything literal, well that is plain ignorance...Overzealous Christians spew more hate in this world, yet proclaim themselves to righteous and worthy!! Get off your pedistal and let people live their life the way THEY see fit....Ignorance is Bliss I guess.
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Disgusted American
, deptford NJ (3/18/2008 3:21:17 PM)
Hey Broken Arrow - Im glad Im here in a Progressive state liek NJ...and I would NEVER go too,visit nor tour such a Bigoted Hateful state as OK. Your post as well as Many others here..shows America How BACKWARDS you truly are....and btw WHEN did you DECIDE to be straight? It must have been a BIG decision for you huh? ..and for you stupid women on here who just Sally...you all should really/seriously educate yyourselves - about WOMEN'S History....1906 to 1920,Women fought for,protested,were arrested/force fed....to OBTAIN thier RIGHT to VOTE, and have a SAY in Gov't. Back then..Men and so-called Religious churches/peoples FOUGHT to prevent You ladies from having YOUR SAY,you were suppoed to sit down,shut up..and be happy with what Men gave you. They controlled your money,your children, and your lives. ...and WHAT was thier argument against you...."If Women Obtain the RIGHT to Vote, then the Very Fabric of American Society would crumble" sound familiar yaw? Google the name ALICE PAUL,and educate yourselves ladies.
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David S
, Indianapolis (3/18/2008 3:27:29 PM)
You all are idiots. I agree that Ms. Kern has a right to her opinion - no matter how stupid she sounds. I just feel sad for her son who is gay.
I also hate the arguments brought up by you so-called Christians...."how come it's okay for Gays to say what they want but someone like Kern can't..blah blah blah..." - probably because the majority/white/Christian people have been having a say about how they feel the world needs to be run for centuries.
Quit acting like you are entitled to the world and that you are the only ones who receive God's love...
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Just Me!
, (3/18/2008 3:28:42 PM)
11. 3/18/2008 2:52:55 PM, Bob, Tulsa
Sally Kern has a right to stand and proclaim her beliefs, just as any other American does. If she has upset the gay community, then they'll just have to get over it.
Good for you Sally! It's about time! Most of us are proud of you. God Speed and God Bless!
AMEN! This story sounds like the story in the Bible when the homosexuals
went to Lot's house to meet with the Angels who were visiting with Lot.
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David S.
, Indianapolis (3/18/2008 3:32:03 PM)
Bob - why don't you get over your hatred and bigotry towards people different from yourself?
I bet you're some really ugly, old man.
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Just Me!
, (3/18/2008 3:33:59 PM)
20. 3/18/2008 3:19:33 PM, Mac, Phoenix
The Bible is a STORY....Not the absolute truth. Why people take a book written, at time when 90% of the world thought the Earth was FLAT, literal I will never understand. It is a great story on how to live a good life, but to take everything literal, well that is plain ignorance...Overzealous Christians spew more hate in this world, yet proclaim themselves to righteous and worthy!! Get off your pedistal and let people live their life the way THEY see fit....Ignorance is Bliss I guess.
...........................................
The Bible is NOT a STORY! It is the absolute TRUTH to Bible Believing Christians! You will never change that. So get use to the fact that Christians believe every word written in their BOOK.
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K,,
, Broken Arrow (3/18/2008 3:34:55 PM)
Disgusting--I mean Disgusted. Why are you reading anything about Oklahoma anyways? Glad we don't have to worry about you soiling our turf. Ya'll just stay on up there in progressive NJ where they treat gays so good!
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K,,
, Broken Arrow (3/18/2008 3:40:07 PM)
Disgusting--I mean Disgusted. Why are you reading anything about Oklahoma anyways? Glad we don't have to worry about you soiling our turf. Ya'll just stay on up there in progressive NJ where they treat gays so good!
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K
, Tulsa (3/18/2008 3:43:33 PM)
#27 Wow! Are you really siding with the nazis and saying genocide is acceptable? You are a sick individual and I am going to ask all of my good Christian friends to pray for you right along with the bigot Sally Kern.
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Sinister
, Tulsa (3/18/2008 3:44:02 PM)
God, why does the Tulsa World even allow comments on its stories? The fountain of moronity that spews forth from the denizens of our fine state astounds me time and time again.
Item 1) Just like the KKK or the Flat Earth Society, Sally Kern had a right to say what she said.
Item 2) GLBT groups have a right to be angry about it and to say so.
Item 3) What the heck does the issue of who's on welfare or not have to do with anything?
Item 4) In my humble opinion, to which I also have a right, racism, sexism, and homophobia are symptoms of a diseased mind, and should be treated as such.
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oklahoman
, (3/18/2008 3:56:06 PM)
kern has failed to represent the people of oklahoma.
it is time for her to go.
please resign and let the state get back to important business.
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David
, (3/18/2008 3:56:19 PM)
Aside from the actual subject of it a politician acutally stood up for something. It's nice to see some backbone in government.
Like I said before, "tolerance" is only afforded to those who agree. If you dare disagree, as did Sally Kern, the double-standard rears its ugly head!
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non-confused
, (3/18/2008 3:58:36 PM)
Men with Men
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
OLD TESTAMENT…KEEPING IN MIND THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS…I AM THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER…I CHANGE NOT…
Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination…………………….
Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them………………..
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