Isaac Parker, Tulsa (6/8/2008 7:53:30 AM)

Well said Fish. Anything "unionized", will produce high-priced, mediocre (at best), non-competitive products, whether automobiles or educated children.

Graychin, Eucha (6/8/2008 8:28:35 AM)

Thank you, Tulsa World, for insisting on the disclosure of this report under an open records request. It will be fascinating to see how the school board responds. But they have already waived their own two-day rule, so I'm not optimistic about the release of the report.

Will they attempt to hold their discussion of the report's release in executive session?

It smells like a cover-up, doesn't it?

Mar, (6/8/2008 10:15:53 AM)

Nothing would surprise me a,

Harold Brookens 1, (6/8/2008 10:43:05 AM)

The fix for this is easy. Eliminate the program. And in the future hold students and parents responsible for violation of school rules and regulations.

All suspensions and discipline problems should remain home school issues. The home school has better knowledge of the student and parent and is in a better position to work solutions to the family's problems.

Out of school suspensions should, except safety and criminal behavior, should be in school. Hold the parents responsible for their childs behavior. If a student is in violation of school regulations, then the parent should serve the in school suspension with the student after school.

In adddition, for those students who are in danger of failing, after school tutoring should be mandatory. Stop just letting these children fail. Intervention must be a proactive feature of TPS. Require parent/counselor remediation plans for failing students. And schedule once or twice a week after school meetings with parents and a school resource official to keep remediation plans on track.

All of the above ideas are better than casting wayward children into a thunder dome environment whereby survival is more important than learning. TPS talks about investing in our kids future, well lets see that investment with action and results. Parenting is the probem. Isolating the child away from his school in a boot camp is not the answer.

Harold Brookens 1, (6/8/2008 11:04:43 AM)

Also, I would like to see the statistics on the precentage increase in suspensions during state testing times. I have a feeling that failing students and those with behavior problems are being suspended at a higher rate during the states school accountability testing period. Thses teachers and schools are kicking those students out whose performance on state tests might affect the teachers or schools test scores. They are getting rid of these kids before test time to help stay off the Needs Improvement List. I wish the Tulsa World would check these statistics out. Then the patrons will know the truth about our schools and TPS commitment to school improvement.

Whirled Peas, (6/8/2008 11:49:39 AM)

It sounds like TPS is going to eventually end up being investigated at a level high enough that they cant censor the outcome.
With their own secret police force, Tulsa Public Schools is turning into some sort of "shadow government" that doesnt feel it has to answer to anybody.

KJNOKIE, (6/8/2008 1:36:28 PM)

There should be no decision to make. The report should be issued to those who pay these people and pay for the schools.
If they don't release the full report, recall all of them and fire the administrators.

involved mom, T.B.D. (6/8/2008 8:58:44 PM)

I agree with KJNOKIE...maybe someone should start a petition to remove all the current board members. This is a classic cover-up and if we, as parents and taxpayers, sit back and do nothing now, this will give them the ok to do what they please when they please. WE pay them!!!! They need to answer to us, pure and simple.

tfromtulsa, (6/8/2008 10:42:18 PM)

involved mom - I live in another school district and this is what happens there.

Fish is so right about the schools no longer serving students and parents.

This law firm represents many of the local school districts, and that's why the schools cover up what they do and make sure parents DO NOT hear about all the dirt and DO NOT have a say in what happens at these schools.

We pay taxes so these schools can serve our children, but instead they serve school personnel and these lawyers.

This is one of the reasons why my kids go to private school.

Fred, (6/9/2008 2:02:31 AM)

It would be so nice if David and Rickie were still in school and Ozzie and Harriot were there at home to support them. We wouldn't have these problems with alternative schools to send disruptive and violent children{can't call them students}.

Have you ever been in a classroom with an habitually disruptive or dangerous student while you have been trying to hold a class in a proper learning environment? If by removing the disruptive student to save the other 40 students, it might seem like a good idea. But, sending them home isn't an option that people want to hear.

Ah. Let us send them to an alternative school and hope that they can get their act together and stay up with their class(fat chanch in both of these hopes). The classroom they were in is doing better but the alternative school they are now in has got some really nasty kids. They have been told that they were worthless and stupid since they were born, and they will be striving to live up to those lofty goals. This "school" will not be nice. This school will have a horrible environment. This school will be an embarrassment for the school district. This is a public school district that has held up to public scrutiny for the last twenty years, and possibly longer.

Want ONE DOLLAR SCHOOLS AND WE ARE READY TO PAY, BEGRUDGINGLY ONE NICKEL.

Fifty years ago, these disruptive students would never have made it through junior high, and would have been sent off to trades. Today we want to keep all students in school, no matter how much of a problem they might be to others in that learning? environment. Can you blame the school system for having problems trying to sift the wheat from the chaff? This is tough problem for them to solve. They are trying. They may never be able to solve this problem, but they do at least monitor and adjust. Give them some time and let them work this out.

Ben Greenwood, (6/9/2008 6:20:19 PM)

I regret mentioning this, but the overall aim of the Elite is to dumb down each generation. This is evident with the major institutions including media (music, TV) and the education bureaucracy. What's happening with TPS is happening across all Western nations.

If you want to do more than just process your children through until they're 18, you will be responsible for educating them. This means private or home schooling. If you lack the financial ability to do that, this means you will need to home school after work and on weekends. Of course, you will need to do this with a child who has been immersed in the various sub-cultures influenced by the above media.

Just like paying for $3.79 gas and more expensive groceries is the good news today, with the bad news being it will get worse - be thankful you have the above choice today. It will get worse.

Fred, (6/9/2008 11:01:54 PM)

Ben,

I have taught thousands of high school aged men and women. The students that I have been able to work with who where there to study music were the most brilliant group to work with. To read music and to put together a score with a group uf people is so stimulating to their mind. I can say as a group, those who studied music were sooooo much ahead of the others in classroom learning. Ain't that something?

Ben Greenwood, (6/10/2008 2:00:28 PM)

Fred, I was not saying that music is detrimental to the mind. I agree with you that it's the opposite! However, music has it's effects on the mind, potentially good and bad, depending most on the lyrical content of the music.

This hasn't gone unnoticed by the media Elite, who for decades have tended to hand out the biggest carrots to those who can reach the largest number of people with the more negative and/or culturally destructive message.

On a personal level, thanks for teaching and working with high school men and women. One of the better ways to hold off and even reverse the plans of the Perverse, is to pour your life into others.

Paul said, "I will very gladly spend, and be spent, for your souls." 2 Corinthians 12:15

Again, thanks Fred.