WHAT???, Tulsa (9/16/2008 9:56:23 AM)

Here we go again, one group of people don't like not having all the power and then they start their own"tribe". The Keetoowah were the best warriors the Cherokee Nation had way back in the day. They are a band of Cherokees not an individual tribe. They have no legal standing in the jurisdiction of the Cherokee Nation in the present or the past. This is a group of people who want to run everything plain and simple.

Cherokee Born, (9/16/2008 12:27:03 PM)

Ask UnrealCherokeeVote about his past.

Cherokee Born, (9/16/2008 12:27:33 PM)

All he can do is copy and paste. OLD, OLD news.

Bennie Ray Stephens, Barnsdall (9/17/2008 12:20:01 AM)

The CNO are not the owners of the the lands they Clame it belongs to the Western Cherokee old settlers and The Keetoowahs and the Delawares and the Shawnee and the Freedman were all put in the tribe with the Emegrant Group that are in control of the Western cherokee Tribal lands that the Western cherokees traded there lands or rez. in Ark for the lands here in okla the Emigrant or Traol of tears group as the Emegrant grop is part time called were dropped of by the Fed. in Ark. on the Western cheroke rez until they the Fed. gov. figuared it safe for us as The Cherokee Nation one and all as we were brought together as one tribe in 1839 but . The 1/8 cherokee and the rest Schotchman and the Chiefs that followed hime such as WW Wheeler was 1/16 and the Emegrant group littlerly stole the HQ from the Chiefs Bowl and Bkack coat and this false clame the emegrant Group that say they own or have the say over the land that is all 6 Groups by the act of congress in 1839 and yet we have people who chamge the constituon after running the 2 leagle terms as Chief They Chamge the document to read as they want so's they can illeagly Run for another term and them they Kicl out the Freedman by construing how the Treaty reads between the Emigrant and the Fed .Gov and the Freedman. These leaders that don't even go by there grandfathers given name are Greety. and if they look at the history the Western cherokees are still a recognized Tribe But the Emigrant group that so blatlantly took charge of thr Western cherokees Chiefs positions with the help of the Federal Gov. in1839 and they have broken not only the treaty with the Freedman but also with the Western cherokees and the Delawares and the Shawnee's.and the keetoowahs Not only did they break the treaties but they kept the 1.3 part of the funds that was supposed to be given to the Western Cherokees of the $300.000.000 they get to run the complete tribe on but they dished it out to each group as if they were the owners of it. and they still do the Shawnees this way just what they think they can get away with and then after the Delaware got back there sovernty and were doing great on there own he claimed they could not put a casino on there lands even though the Delawares paid twice for the lands the hold in okla. and the emigrant group in chatge of the actual lands owned by the Western Cherokee old Settlers they still dish it out as they wish to each group. and they have not sence 1892 given anything to the owners of the lands they say they own the Western Cherokee Old Settlers. It seem that the old John ROss and the Bodinots and the treaty party are still up to there old tricks and to finish The Western Cherokee old settlers are a recognized tribe according to the Federal Governments Bis which is run by the Treaty bunch with The Chief so call because of a change of the constitution to read as he wants He needs to re study the Aboriginal History and he woud learn that there given names are with them for ever not the ones they adopt.. There is a true Cherokee Nation But it consists of the Western old settlers the Delaware the shawnee the keetoowahs the freedman and the emigration group that run under the Rolls that were not recognized by the Congress od the USA. The well Know Defubct Dawes Rolls as BoB Blankanship can tell you there were 400 pages of the Western cherokees Left off this roll untill updated by Mr. Blankship in 2005 and there were 200 pages left off the Gion Miller Rolls as well.and they were put back on both rolls in2005 by a true native aboriginal Mr, Bob Blankship . ahd This Ross Swimmer that is with some of his tribal members Working with the Trust funds and he has gotten caught again they hve pot parties and firewater drinking on the job and also have sex parties to round off a full day of messing up things so the real Aboriginals are Screwed out of ther Rights. what does this say for the Tribal Council that have the actual authority of thow the Tribe is Run All the Chiefs and Dept. Chiefs are just the figure heads that are supposed to carry out what the Tribal ciuncil t

KeithLong, Pawhuska (9/17/2008 8:05:26 AM)

The BIA has allowed tribes/bands and individual tribal members to place land into trust inside other tribes.

The Choctaw Nation purchased the Blue Ribbons Downs property in Sallisaw, OK, inside Cherokee Nation, with the blessings of the BIA.

The Muscogee Creek Tribal Towns are recognized by the BIA. The Kialegee, Thlopthlocco and Alabama/Qussarde Tribal Towns
have property inside Creek Nation. Thlopthlocco operates a casino on I-40 near Okemah, with the blessings of the BIA.

Individual Indians have traded restricted lands to live inside other tribal boundaries.

For Hanna of the BIA to deny the UKB trust status just doesn't make sense. The UKB have established themsleves and have facilities on their property to operate their programs.

Of course, anything the BIA does at this point seems always senseless.

Cherokee Born, (9/17/2008 1:29:29 PM)

Bennie: Can you re-type your post? Can't understand a word of it the way it's typed.