marine2.0, (10/22/2008 1:12:16 PM)

Next question should be to ask the same kids that have had someone killed due to gang violence if they listen to gangster crap, whoops my mistake, rap music. Ask them how many friends they have that are involved in gangs. It will amaze you that most if not all will answer YES to both. Where is the problem here?

ryount, Owasso (10/22/2008 3:03:00 PM)

They listen to that type of music because they identify with it. That is their reality. And a harsh realty it is. I can't imagine living that life and I would imagine neither can you. Instead of condeming them for what type of music they listen to why don't we start working together as a community to change their reality and put an end to all of the issues students are dealing with today.

marine2.0, (10/23/2008 7:14:56 PM)

Ok time for a reality check. So under your arguement if I grew up in a white supremisist community then it is ok for me to listen to racist punk music. Because afterall that would be my harsh reality. Yours is a sad, worn out arguement that is constantly used by the very terds that choose to perpetrate the criminal activity in our communities. By no means should we condemn the constant chant of Ho, bit--, nig--, gun violence, violence against women, drug use, rebel against authority etc. How about instead of condoning the behavior we make a stand that it is not appropriate or tolerated. I can imagine living that life because I worked in a gang unit for a couple of years. I came across people that you only read about and they all listen to this garbage. Name one positive that comes from ganster rap music. Please show me the itellectual stimulization one would get from the Dr. Suess like renditions of bragging about money, materialism, degrading women, degrading race, denouncing authority etc?
As far as helping students deal with issues that is easy, stop codeling them. Get the schools out of the business of social indoctrination and back to the business of teaching them reading, writing and arithmitic. Teach responsibilty and stop blaming others for thier actions. Stop giving students a book of rights that is multiple pages long. Here in one sentence is what a students rights are. Sit down, shut up unless spoken to and prepare to learn.
This may sound extremely harsh and that is because it is. The promotion of hate and violence is what ganster rap does. There is no redeming value at all and to not condemn it along with all it stands for is irresponsible and ignorant. Would one let someone hear music that promotes suicide if they were conteplating suicide? Then why would one accept someone listening to hate and violence when they are trying to stop the hate and violence?