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Henry vetoes tribal charter schools bill
 
By BARBARA HOBEROCK World Capitol Bureau
Published: 5/14/2009  2:33 AM
Last Modified: 5/14/2009  4:58 AM

OKLAHOMA CITY — Gov. Brad Henry on Wednesday tied his record for doling out vetoes.

Henry brought his veto total for this session to 13 by nixing Senate Bill 586, which would have allowed American Indian tribes to sponsor charter schools in Tulsa and Oklahoma counties on land held in trust by the federal Bureau of Indian Affairs.

"Oklahoma tribal governments already have the authority to create and operate their own schools," Henry's veto message stated. "SB 586 is duplicative of current law and unnecessary."

Sen. John Ford, R-Bartlesville, said he was surprised by the veto and disappointed.

"Oklahoma has over 600,000 students, and not all learn the same way," said Ford, who sponsored the bill. "It is important we have a variety of education options for students and parents, including public, private and home-schooling, as well as charter schools."

Charter schools are free from many of the state mandates imposed on public schools.

The Legislature hopes to adjourn by May 22, a week early this year, but has yet to pass a state budget.

In the final days of the session, hundreds of bills will be considered.

Henry this year has vetoed bills ranging from a ban on embryonic stem-cell research, to requiring voter identification at the polls.

The governor vetoed 13 bills in 2008.

"We're not counting vetoes or trying to break records," said Paul Sund, a spokesman for Henry. "We're just doing what we think is best for Oklahoma."
By BARBARA HOBEROCK World Capitol Bureau

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Bullhead, Nicut (5/13/2009 2:29:12 PM)
I don't know much about this stuff but it seems if the tribe wants to help out monetarily, TAKE IT!
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missy..........m., countryside (5/13/2009 2:32:56 PM)
well it kinda tells me that maybe hes on to something here.If he feels they need no help from the Imdians then I suppose they dont.I say its high time people started working on taking care of themselves.
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GeneTulsa, Aubrey (5/13/2009 2:58:42 PM)
Thank God, We have a Gov. who can write the word VETO,or he would be in trouble..........
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I am justme, Broken Arrow, Oklahoma (5/13/2009 10:19:00 PM)
Don't give the tribes any more power....Please.
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osagerafe, Bartlesville (5/13/2009 11:22:02 PM)
I don't know why its so scary for tribes to succeed.
Henry has always looked at the tribes as a cash cow. the problem is he has limited authority to control or tax them. He never got over it. This was a slap in the face of tribes and doesn't even reflect tribal ability to start schools. He spends too much time talking with Scott Meachum. Poor idea Brad. Showed a complete lack of understanding and just looks racist.
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rogerq, Pyeongtaek, South Korea (5/14/2009 2:44:24 AM)
Charter schools are free from many of the state mandates imposed on public schools.

such as teacher certification and accreditation perhaps?
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tulsandn, Boswell / Tulsa (5/14/2009 10:32:27 AM)
"Don't give the tribes any more power....Please."

LMAO-ROTF in tears....

Seriously though, there are enough schools and we need to learn from the schools that everyone else does, so that we know what the rules are and how to apply them to our advantage....
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D Man, Tulsa (5/14/2009 11:29:50 AM)
The tribes already operate schools in places like Tahlequah. They could do the same in OKC and Tulsa. The charter bill was just another boneheaded attempt by the GOP leadership to undercut OEA for spite. (And, by the way, I've been registered Republican since I voted for Nixon.)
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Companion, elyocp (5/14/2009 2:16:02 PM)
Sounds like conscious willful segregation by the tribes. The 19th century white america couldn't have cared less about indians being educated. Then 20th century white america wanted boarding schools to coerce the indians to learn the english language and the white culture. And introduce indian children into the public schools. Now, tribes want to break off public schools and create their own version of charter schools for indians. Sounds great to me. Even though one might consider it self-segregation. Reminds me of segregated schools of the past. Now it's retrogression by the tribes to have schools of their own.
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liberty, mounds (5/14/2009 3:24:11 PM)
he don't know how to write veto someone made him a rubber stamp
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mr.peabody, country side oklahoma (5/14/2009 4:20:33 PM)
companion: I think you have it pretty close. The tribes in Oklahoma in the nineteenth century were relocated in around 1835. By the 1850's they were said to have the best school systems in the nation. They spent more per capita on student than nationally. On the learning english part , here is a common misconception. The tribes here were highly educated, multi-lingual. This only serves to bolster you overall thesis all the same. A bit of advice if I may, don't fall into the trap of making it have anything to do with color. I'm white but my anscetory includes native American offshoots and I have native American grandchildren. Your opinion stands on it's own merit.
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mr.peabody, country side oklahoma (5/14/2009 4:42:19 PM)
Dman. It would seem that the only time the governor is for "allowing" the tribes to exercise thier souvernty is when it's a smokeshop or a casino for taxes to stoke the public school system. But the education lobby must always come first. Once they get a hold of something you can't run em off with a dirty mop!
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Companion, elyocp (5/14/2009 8:44:02 PM)
I'm half indian and would welcome indian charter schools. I feel it advantageous for american indians to go to school and study among others of their kind. I think it would have helped me. Got a lot of name calling when I was in public schools. But I remembered the sticks and stones may hurt me anecdote, but than sometimes I got into a fight anyway. Oh well!
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mr.peabody, country side oklahoma (5/14/2009 10:34:15 PM)
companion, You know I couldn't agree with you more, My first wife and I homedschooled our children for the last half of thier schooling. I 've noticed that until kids get to puberty they seemed to get along pretty well with few exceptions.
But after that, it seems like it can get pretty mean if you don't fit into a large group.If you think about it, just look at the way us adults get along and that's not even being forced together.
It seems like this is the trouble we find ourselves in when we take "top down" approaches where one man can dash the desires of the"home folks"
I think we know our kids and neighbors better than a union or a lobby.
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tulsandn, Boswell / Tulsa (5/15/2009 8:44:16 AM)
Companion - I'm a fullblood Native American (Indian) who went to boarding school (Chilocco) and public school (East Central) and I never had name calling issues unless I earned them by being stupid, that must have been your problem more than being "indian"....Because reading your stupidity makes me want to "take it outside with you" right now....
 

 
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