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Creek Nation seeks aid on trusts
Tulsa city and county officials oppose tribal land parcels being designated tax exempt.
 
By CLIFTON ADCOCK World Staff Writer
Published: 8/5/2009  2:22 AM
Last Modified: 8/6/2009  3:12 PM


Correction
This story originally contained incorrect information about the number of county commissioners who sent letters to the BIA. The story has been corrected.


The Muscogee (Creek) Nation is gearing up for a fight against Tulsa city and county government over tribal trust land issues, and is asking for help from more than 500 tribes around the country.

In a letter sent to more than three dozen Oklahoma tribal leaders, Principal Chief A.D. Ellis asked for support and unity after the Tulsa City Council passed a resolution last week opposing the tribe putting two pieces of land in Tulsa in trust.

Two Tulsa County commissioners also sent letters to the Bureau of Indian Affairs asking that a trust application be rejected.

The Creek letter is also being sent to more than 500 Indian tribes throughout the nation, as well as the National Congress of American Indians, Ellis said.

"This action by the City of Tulsa could have a far-reaching effect on all Indian nations," Ellis wrote.

"I would urge all tribal governments with trust land in and around cities everywhere to consider and respond to this attempt to interfere with tribal relations with the United States government. Our rights are again being threatened. The voices of many, speaks louder than one."

The letter, sent to the executive branches of 38 federally recognized Oklahoma tribes, states that the city represents a large voting bloc that will "undoubtedly reach our representation in Washington, D.C., for their support."

Tulsa's three county commissioners sent separate letters to the BIA on July 15 opposing the tribe's application to put land in trust for a parking lot near River Spirit Casino at 81st Street and Riverside Drive.

Last week, the Tulsa City Council passed a resolution opposing the Creek's application to put two pieces of land on the Arkansas River in trust because it would decrease the city's tax revenue.

The two pieces of land include the parking lot land and acreage on the west side of the river, near 81st Street and Peoria Avenue, eyed by the tribe for a strip mall.

In January, Mayor Kathy Taylor asked the BIA to not put the west bank land in trust, saying that it would cost more than $34 million to provide infrastructure to the property, in addition to lost sales and property taxes, and that part of the property sits in a flood zone.

Having land in trust with the federal government is vital to many tribal enterprises and a tribe's sovereignty, tribal officials say. Almost all tribal casinos, smoke shops and government service buildings are on trust or restricted land.

In most cases, trust land is outside the jurisdiction of local and state authorities, and thus exempt from local taxes and regulation.

Ellis said he has received several calls from tribes in the eastern and western part of the state supporting his position, and that he is asking those tribes to send letters to the BIA.

"If it (the attempt to stop land being put into trust) affects us and is successful, then it's going to affect all of the tribes, because most of the tribes at one time or another have land in whatever towns they're in," Ellis said. "(The BIA) works for the tribes, they don't work for the city, that's their job. This has been going on throughout history, land issues."

In their letters, the commissioners wrote that it would cost the county an estimated $102,053 per year in property taxes if the land were put into trust and more if the land was developed.

"I must cautiously oppose this acquisition at this time," wrote District 3 Commissioner Fred Perry. "Further, should these properties become commercially developed, this loss of (property tax) revenue would amount to a taxpayer subsidization of tribal commercial pursuits, and a taxpayer promotion of a private business that may be in direct competition with several nontribal commercial enterprises."

Perry said the individual commissioner's letters were not coordinated with the Tulsa City Council's recent actions, and that he is open to meeting with tribal officials to discuss a resolution to the matter.

Ellis said no meetings have been held with city or county officials on the issue, but that he too is open to talks.

"I'd like to hear what kind of proposition they have," Ellis said. "I think it's up to them to come up with a proposition, not us."

Other potential battles

Meanwhile, another fight may be on the horizon as the Creeks plan to submit an application to put land near 121st Street and Yale Avenue into trust, Ellis said.

Tribal officials in the past have acknowledged plans to build a toll bridge on the land between south Tulsa and Jenks.

A similar, previous effort by the city of Jenks caused an uproar by some south Tulsa citizens and a legal battle that ended with the state Supreme Court deciding in favor of the city of Tulsa.

City councilors will likely fight an effort by the tribe to put a bridge on the land.

"We just bought a lot of land down on South Yale. That's going to be a big battle, I know it," Ellis said.

An application to put the land in trust has not yet been submitted, he said.

The Creek Nation is also fighting other battles dealing with its sovereignty.

The largest tribe in Oklahoma without a tobacco compact, it is involved in two court battles with the state over cigarette brands sold at several of its smoke shops that are not allowed in the state, one filed by the state against some of the tribal business officials and smoke shop owners, and the other filed by the tribe seeking the return of cigarettes without tax stamps seized by the Oklahoma Tax Commission earlier this year.


Clifton Adcock 581-8462
clifton.adcock@tulsaworld.com
By CLIFTON ADCOCK World Staff Writer

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Ppoohbr, (8/4/2009 6:50:54 PM)
Oh but lets build a new ballpark when they can't even give tickets away and fill the stadium they have now, causing others to pay higher taxes when they can barely pay what they owe at this present time.......Yeah the Indians are asking for the land to be put in to trust, The state already benefits from the profits from all casinos. Wasn't the land the Indians to begin with?
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Thunder196, Tulsa (8/4/2009 7:12:11 PM)
I have a feeling Muscogee (Creek) Nation Principal Chief A.D. Ellis, is more of a savvy businessman then people gave him credit for. He isn't about to back off without a fight. He is going to show what it means to get organized, in regards to fighting a major battle.
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Graybeard, Tulsa (8/4/2009 7:22:51 PM)
No. Tulsa has enough Indian enterprise, thank you. We have enough casinos. We do not need any more gaming facilities or smoke shops. We need more business that pays Federal, State, County and City taxes, provides higher paying jobs that benefit the entire population.
No. No. No......a thousand times no. Speak up, citizens of Tulsa! If you don't want these lands put in trust, speak up....make your opinion heard.
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Harold Brookens 1, (8/4/2009 7:28:39 PM)
I don't think the City of Tulsa or county officials are so much against the Creeks from developing the land, as they are more interested in establishing some type of compact with the tribe to generate revenue. But the problem as I see it, is that city and local governments have no sovereign authority to negotiate with a sovereign nation. Only the United States has that authority. And so the City and county want to gin up support and and get the attention of Congress to repeal treaties and laws diminishing some of the sovereign rights of Indian tribes.

Its a power and money game. And Senators Inhofe and Tom Coburn, and the Oklahoma congressional delegation will surely support this action. Penning legislation to strip and rewrite arbitrarily Indian treaties to suit the commercial needs of state and local governments. And hope other states fall in line and the Supreme Court agrees. Just a modern day version of taking away the sovereign rights of Indians that have been established and formalized in treaty by the United states as a solemn promise. How dirty!!!
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Mar, Tulsa (8/4/2009 7:34:50 PM)
Oh brother. I think these tribes are getting too full of themselves. I'm part Native American, but even so I don't agree with the tribes land power grab. Please do what you do best, run the casinos.

Good gosh, we are having enough problems with the Mexicans and Asians trying to take over our country and now the Indians are trying to get in on the act. These people were suppose be a part of our country and work for the betterment of all of us. And I don't want to hear how the Indians were mistreated years ago, the U.S. stole Texas, etc. etc. That was then, this is now, get over it! Geez!
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How nice, (8/4/2009 7:40:38 PM)
greybeard ?? you wise old man ? stay off our roads,keep your grandchilden out of our lakes. I hope you enjoyed your stay. . .now go home.Then pray for me.
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Radical, (8/4/2009 7:41:20 PM)
Grey beard you must not know of the many other enterprises that the Muscogee Nation has. They have medical clinics, day centers for both children and seniors, they have a new Collage, the have construction contracts with the U.S. govt. They do large construction projects at places like Altus AFB, here in Oklahoma. They have tribel farms to train its citizens in farming and animal husbandry.
Cigarettes and gambling, are not the only things that the tribe is doing.
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Ayo, T-Town (8/4/2009 7:45:14 PM)
Gear up, and let's battle. Chief Ellis has proved he won't fold to the whims of the state. Let's get it on.

This isn't just a Tulsa thing. This isn't just an Oklahoma thing.
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Harold Brookens 1, Tulsa (8/4/2009 7:57:33 PM)
Mar... the difference is that the Hispanics and Asians were not accorded sovereign rights in treaty a solemn promise made by the people and the United States government. Is the United States of America a country of its word, whose promise can be respected?
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mike2000, (8/4/2009 8:23:18 PM)
Greybeard is correct. We have too many Indian enterprises not paying taxes but pulling money out of the economy.

As I recall, the civilized tribes were relocated here from the Southeast. That means they displaced other Indians and took their land. Perhaps the Creeks/Choctaws/Cherokee.. should give the land back to the Osage who were here first.

The Native Americans lost the war in the 19th centure but a "benevolent" federal government has given much back to them. Still, I don't recall the Indians owning the lakes and roads around here. I must have missed that one.
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Harold Brookens 1, Tulsa (8/4/2009 8:46:17 PM)
Greybeard and others might be correct in that Indian enterprises are pulling money out of municipal coffers. And the impact of this loss of revenue is impacting the greater good of all citizens in the community. And that it would only be fair that all citizens share a proportional responsibility within the community.

But treaties are more than just laws. They represent a higher level of authority than statutory law or even constitutional law. A treaty represents the Good Faith and Honor of the United States of America. And as such, for better or worse, must be honored.
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flub-a-dub, (8/4/2009 10:20:22 PM)
Mike2000, you need an Indian history lesson. The Indians that were relocated here from the Southeast did not take other Indian's land but were forced to take this land in lieu of their home lands by your own federal government. Second, the Osage Nation has nothing to do with land located in other Indian Nations. They too were forced off their homeland and relocated. Third, the only displacing going on was by the federal govt who took this land in order to give it to the Indians. Perhaps the federal govt should do as you suggest and give the land back to the Indians who were truly here first. Otherwise, your recall is sharp as a tack. Maybe you should stiick to a topic you know something about!?
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PhoenixIX, Jenks (8/5/2009 5:07:58 AM)
After littering our State with Casinos and Smoke Shops they still want more ?

It's "high time" the Indian citizens of the United States of America become just that-Citizens of the UNITED States of America.
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ndnguy, Tulsa, ok (8/5/2009 6:11:13 AM)
All of the tribes experienced a Trail of Tears due to the forced relocations; some were more or less severe. However, regardless of their differing severity, the forced relocations were all part of the U.S. extermination policy, or genocide, to solve their "Indian Problem." The "problem" in Indian Territory was that the tribes who were forced to relocate under conditions that significantly reduced their population through extermination or starvation, some in harsh winter conditions, was that they survived the forced relocations at all. Hence, a "solution" was needed to insure white domination in Indian Territory. Henry Dawes and his Dawes Act fueled by racism, denial of joint statehood, and a cruel "wedding" fusing Indian Territory with the State of Oklahoma all contributed to Oklahoma's Statehood through the elimination of many tribal lands and the great diminishment or total elimination of tribal political influence. This why all native nations need to band together and work for the better good of our nations. So all tribal members of any tribe need to write and/or e-mail congress now!!
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Graybeard, Tulsa (8/5/2009 6:31:59 AM)
What a great deal: give me land that I can develop in any way I choose, with no restriction and no legal way for you to collect taxes. Only you have to provide me with fire and police protection and infrastructure support and be ready and more than willing to do so. Basically, this amounts to holding local government hostage and blackmail.
It is time to abolish the BIA, Sovereign Nation Status to all Indian Tribes, and all agreements, pacts, etc. with any Native American Tribe. We live in one Nation, under God, with Liberty and Justice for all. AMERICANS.
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Lil Sparrow*, Midwest Flyway (8/5/2009 7:07:52 AM)
harold brooken 1
your comments are wise and insightful.
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ndnguy, Tulsa, ok (8/5/2009 7:22:13 AM)
Sorry to burst your bubble gray beard but first, the land was not given to us it was the tribes to begin with. Second, trust land is purchased land asking for exempt from taxation ( tell you in your terms, they bought it and now do not want to pay state or county taxes on what ever they build on it) third, tribes have their own police (Creek Nation Lighthorse), fire and ambulances. The tribal enterprises pay for local police also just like wal-mart does but no taxes. I will give you this, we do live under one nation but not one state, parts of Oklahoma has Native American reservations on them (look it up). The individual tribes pay federal taxes on lots of things including wages. Tribal Enterprises pay federal and state and county taxes on wages, purchases and other goods and services. Last is if you are Native Americans you are an American. This definition would make you a true American (not a poser) and trace your family only to this country.
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Graybeard, Tulsa (8/5/2009 7:29:31 AM)
If we had Neanderthals still walking among us, this land would be theirs? Would they be the TRUE Americans?

Abolish the BIA, all treaties, pacts, etc. Let's all live together under one flag and live by the same rules.
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ndnguy, Tulsa, ok (8/5/2009 7:48:58 AM)
Yes Grey Beard if they were alive but they are not. Most of the Native Americans in the past were on the genocide side of things but they made it (see comment above). So you are correct on that part. So by your way of thinking if all Native Americans were gone we would not be seeing this article, so were should we go this time, I'm thinking back home, oh wait I am home.

Final comment, Small minds condemn anything they don't understand and some times "The Majority" means the fools are on the same side.

Cehecares
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Ayo, T-Town (8/5/2009 8:39:06 AM)
It's tough for some of you, isn't it? It took Congress until 1924 to 'deem' all Native Americans as legal American citizen.

I think we'll keep our sovereignty, thanks. I will also continue to keep my hyphen, afterall it took 148 years for us to become 'legal Americans'.

My Chief didn't fold to Scott Meachum and the state on the unfair tobacco compact. He won't fold on this, either.

It's time for all Mvskokes to unit, and provide our support to Chief Ellis on this issue.

The National Congress of American Indians will assuredly lend support, as will many tribes throughout this country.
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PhoenixIX, Jenks (8/5/2009 8:53:49 AM)
I think I'll vote for Tom Coburn after all. He is has called these treaties "antiquated".I agree.
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Urban Crab, Tulsa (8/5/2009 9:17:29 AM)
Karen Keith and her dunder-head cohorts need to stay out of this altogether. (Karen you just lost my support.) Mayor Taylor and the city council need to shut up. The only true economic development going on in this metro area is through Native American enterprise. Every person employed by the tribes pays federal income tax and state income tax on their salaries and they pay all sales taxes when they shop. The county makes more off of Native Americans in sales tax revenues from their shopping than the mere $100,000 they're whining about. And I know for a fact that the Creeks have directly discussed a sharing of tribal tax revenue with the city. Isn't there anything non-governmental entities can do arouind here that doesn't meet with objections and obstacles from city and county government?
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H_Harl, (8/5/2009 9:25:43 AM)
i have to agree with graybeard on this.
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PhoenixIX, Jenks (8/5/2009 9:29:02 AM)
Urban Crab,

"And I know for a fact that the Creeks have directly discussed a sharing of tribal tax revenue with the city."

That is really "big" of the Creek Nation.

We are "one Nation" not two.
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Shooter, Tulsa (8/5/2009 9:29:17 AM)
These tribes have received enough benefits!!! The trail of tears and all that crap happened over 100 years ago. They didnt legally own the land to begin with. They have no right to just come and take whatever land they want and demand whatever city or county it is in to provide roads, police and fire protection but then pay absolutey no taxes whatsoever. That is ridiculous!!! I have no problem with the tribes wanting to create business that is fine but they should be subjected to city and county taxes just like any other business would be. If they want tax free business do it outside of the city and they should provide their own infrastructure, police and fire needs!!
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