billy8, Sand Springs (10/31/2009 10:06:50 AM)

All these candidates seem to disregard the separation of church and state. A religious ceremony at a political meeting is thumbing your nose at that clause. Follow the constitution and the bill of rights, and you'll see that church and god are not mentioned,therefore should be left out of counsel meetings and other political places.

Few Clothes, America (10/31/2009 11:30:16 AM)

"Your lips move but I don't hear what you're saying."

Pink Floyd

FUTURE WORLD, Tulsa (10/31/2009 5:25:58 PM)

Mr. Brown you said it. When Albertsons operated the store I saw many times cashiers not ringing up for their friends or family. Clerks walking out the store with beer and other items to waiting cars in the parking lot. They had security, but I guess if you paid them off you didn't get caught. The store general manger quit and became the security manager I guess because that position had a bigger pay off.

Mr. Brown, Kanagawa, Japan (10/31/2009 3:27:44 PM)

truth fairy
money to open the store in North Tulsa isn't the problem.
Hiring people from the area that won't rob the place out of business, along with the customers
in the area, IS. Albersons stands as a fine example.

Mr. Brown, Kanagawa, Japan (10/31/2009 6:41:34 PM)

FUTURE WORLD
That's it! But you can't beat that Jack(-s-) Henderson braying that racism is behind all of it.
He needs to do his job, by mobilizing his constituents to embark upon the mission of saving themselves and their communities through education, responsible parenting, and honest, sober living. Good luck with this one...

AngelsCu, Tulsa (10/31/2009 4:52:43 AM)

Is there a candidate that agrees with this? I believe ALL faiths have a right to their own beliefs and their own way to pray and/or worship, since we all have been raised in different homes with faiths taught to us by our families; and with this being said, I therefore believe as the American whose motto is -(and hope will ALWAYS be)"In God We Trust". My question and personal opinion is...Why do "WE the people,of the United States of America", being a Christian (believing in God/Jesus),and an American (being born, raised and lived here in America all of our life, or new citizens), have to be "quiet" and forfeit OUR RIGHTS as Americans, to say OUR "Pledge of Allegiance", or have OUR RIGHTS to say "OUR Prayers", as we learned in school, here in America, in or at our schools at lunch/games/sports/concerts/events or any type of activities? WHY? WE only get a moment of silence! What is silence teaching our children? Is there ONE Congressman or elected official that will take up for OUR RIGHTS as an American Citizen to be able to express these as our fore Fathers did and meant for OUR Great Nation to continue? They prayed for hours BEFORE they ever decided on anything. Check our history. The way it is now, all other faiths and religions from other countries, have priority over our own. If people from other countries that have become American citizens, that has faiths and religions that differ from these, then they too should have their way of expressing their faith at the same time. If they don't wish or choose to hear ours, then they too should have the right to do so in a different room or area where they can have their privacy to worship as they choose. Nobody probably agrees with me...but it was worth a shot anyway.

OkeyDokey, Anytown USA (10/31/2009 6:01:28 PM)

Our deplorable situation in NOrth Tulsa is only going to get worse, as it is in other places now, like Detroit with their unemployment rate of 30% and thousands standing in line waiting for a "handout" from BO". With millions of people, black and white, out of jobs, losing their homes and in dire straits increasing, we will see more crimes committed by "poor under-priveleged people" just to have money for food for themselves and their families. The likelyhood of a racial/class civil war, that will more than likely be "sparked by a minor incident", perhaps right here in Tulsa, will break out and all hell will break loose all over the country, like ti did in Los Angeles Watts District once. And, as we can see in the news every day, the situation is worsening by the hour, thanks to "changes being made" by BO and his Chicago cronies who have all been appointed to key positions as Czars with control over every aspect of our lives, rich or poor, black or white, it don't matter folks. What is a Mayor of Tulsa, Oklahoma going to be able to do about that situation, regardless of whether he is a Democrat, Republican or Independent ?? Thank's to our military troops, God and Fox News, we do still have our rights to "freedom of speech". "freedom of the press" and "the right to bear arms"..at least for now !!! Whatever we do my fellow Tulsan's, we MUST vote for the one with the most impeccable character, the most intelligence, the most honest, the one with the best integrity and moral, family values, the one who has proven himself by his devotion to charitable community services,a civic club member, helping unfortunate residents of the city, and, it would not hurt if he were a faithful church member of whatever his religion may be and if he had a military service background, or even a Boy Scout leader, that too would be a plus ! God PLEASE Bless America Again....and Tulsa.....!!!

Exchanging views, Tulsa (10/31/2009 8:09:49 AM)

truth fairy have you seen what happens to the stores in N. Tulsa? Why on earth would someone want to do business up here? They think it's ok to steal any and everything, instead of working for it. More big screen TV's are in the projects than on the South-side homes. Wasting our tax dollars (food stamps ect) on junk food. How many times do you see them spending this on cokes, candy, and more junk food? They think it sucks they can't spend "our $$" in fast food places, but if you look around their living area's, it's clear they have the cash needed for such anyway.
Check with the business most recently opened up there (NE corner of Pine / Peoria) and ask how the citizens have acted... ask how many THOUSANDS of dollars in merchandise have been stolen. How many times the thieves play the race card?
It would be simpler if ALL HANDOUTS were cut off and done away with. To many frigging grasshoppers and not enough ants coming out of N. Tulsa. Yes this is our local / state / federal tax dollars at waste.

Trey Lib, Tulsa (10/31/2009 6:38:52 PM)

In accord with billy8...

Many aesthiests--who are also citizens--resent ANY RELIGIOUS CEREMONIES OR OTHER DOINGS.

True, we could use more unity....for both those who believe and don't.

Please be sure to include the aesthiest minority too...

marlin, (10/30/2009 9:14:34 PM)

Hopefully the national media doesn't catch wind of this, it would be truly embarrassing.
I can see the headlines now on the AP, "Tulsa Held Hostage...by Curly, Larry and Moe!"

lufkin, (10/31/2009 2:55:40 PM)

More inane pc platitudes.Do any of these candidates really have the courage to "speak honestly' on race?They could start with the astronomical black crime rate,lack of respect for the police,and 70% illegitimacy rate. Yuppie jerk Perkins is even more repulsively pc than the uber-liberal Adelson

flyingtheo, Broken Arrow (10/31/2009 9:48:02 AM)

The "model city" concept really worked well in Detroit. LOL

flyingtheo, Broken Arrow (10/31/2009 6:12:22 PM)

(yawn) Just another exercise in political correctness and a contest to determine which candidate can grab the most hallowed "moral high ground". Totally meaningless.

mayor_maynot, Tulsa (10/31/2009 5:51:09 AM)

It's difficult to see the separation of church and state.

truth fairy, (10/30/2009 9:22:19 PM)

It would seem that some kind of federal funding, private grant, or at least a low or no interest loan might be found to enable opening a grocery store in north Tulsa. Tulsa's many mega-churches and it's members could solve this problem, as well, if they felt so inclined.