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Role in schools backed
The mayoral candidates discuss education in a forum on Sunday.
By SHANNON MUCHMORE World Staff Writer
Published:
11/2/2009 2:22 AM
Last Modified: 11/2/2009 3:46 AM
Visit the Tulsa World’s city elections Web page for continuing coverage.
Tulsa's next mayor should take an active approach in the city's education programs, the candidates said at a forum Sunday.
"It should be a priority for us," independent candidate Mark Perkins said, adding that the city can help by investing in health and safety programs for school children.
Republican Dewey Bartlett Jr. agreed, saying he would want a liaison from the city to serve as a nonvoting member of the school board to create an ongoing dialogue.
Democrat Tom Adelson, who has served as an adjunct teacher for four years at Booker T. Washington High School, said the city should use its resources to recruit teachers and offer credit recovery programs.
Adelson also said he has broken with his party by supporting charter schools.
The three spoke at a noontime forum at All Souls Unitarian Church.
Perkins and Adelson also attended a forum Sunday afternoon at the Dennis R. Neill Center of Equality. Bartlett did not go to that event, despite the date being moved at the request of his campaign, said Toby Jenkins, president of Oklahomans for Equality.
Jenkins said he flooded Bartlett's office with calls but was told last week the candidate couldn't make it to every event.
The mayoral candidates will appear on the Nov.
10 municipal election ballot.
Another independent candidate for mayor, Lawrence Kirkpatrick was in the audience at the first forum, but not on stage with the rest of the candidates. The forum moderator, Clayton Vaughn, said organizers wanted to involve Kirkpatrick in the event but could not get in touch with his campaign. Kirkpatrick was not invited to the event at the equality center.
Vaughn, a member of All Souls, asked candidates their reaction to public charges that their campaigns have been too negative.
Perkins, who has not had the campaign coffers to run television advertising, said his opponents' campaigns have relied on the politics of fear.
"I just think it is not the hallmark of statesmanship," Perkins said. "People should run on ideas, on leadership."
Adelson said he has to respond to charges against him, adding that he is "in this race to win."
He said he called for an end to negative advertising weeks ago, but Bartlett would not agree to the conditions.
Bartlett said advertising needs to point out differences between candidates, and that is what he aims to do.
Perkins said he is in favor of nonpartisan politics, and he has the vision to unite Tulsans. "Age is overrated," said Perkins, 30. "It's judgment and leadership and talent that count."
Bartlett countered that experience is key to success as mayor and said again that he would the "job-gettingist" mayor Tulsa has ever seen.
Adelson continued to advocate for a more regional-based government and said he wants Tulsa to grow up instead of out.
The candidates did find quite a few things to agree on Sunday. All said school children should have been able to listen President Barack Obama's speech to students in September.
They also celebrated the presence of independent candidates in the race and advocated more televised debates during the campaign.
At the latter forum co-sponsored by the equality center, PFLAG and the League of Women Voters, Adelson and Perkins said they had favorable relations with Tulsa's gay community and support a city rule to ban firing public workers on the basis of their sexual orientation.
In response to an audience question, they also said Tulsa has plenty of parking, including in the downtown area. Perkins added he would like to see parking restrictions eased to allow for more development in the city.
The two candidates support lowering lease rates at the new City Hall and possibly dividing the space to accommodate smaller businesses.
When asked why they wanted to be mayor, Perkins said he wants to give back to the city.
"It just comes from the heart, really," he said. "I'm just trying to make my community a better place."
Adelson said he believes now more than ever that public servants can make a difference.
"I want to do more to protect Tulsa's special position," he said.
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moogle
, Tulsa (11/1/2009 1:33:34 PM)
At least we now know that none of the candidates have made the connection between the decline in TPS and the indiscriminate splattering of apartment complexes and low-rent housing around the city. Apparently none of them have a clue as to how inner city schools become inner city schools.
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calloy
, T-town (11/1/2009 1:47:35 PM)
i applaud the move of taking the "i heart tulsa" t-shirts off for this appearance.
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Corvetteguy
, Tulsa (11/1/2009 1:52:08 PM)
Education?......
That's it,.....education?
We are laying off Police Officers, and running the firetrucks short staffed,....and we're going to talk about pumping more money into education?
Do any of these candidates realize that the last Mayor put education as her #1 priority? anybody between you realize this?..duh....
That's your priority also?
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irwindale
, Tulsa (11/1/2009 1:52:49 PM)
...I recall that the owners of the Tribune, founders of All Souls, chose to run the article that was at the core of the 1921 race riot. Any help with Tulsa history would be nice.
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calloy
, T-town (11/1/2009 2:46:23 PM)
why fore is you agin ejucashun?
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irwindale
, Tulsa (11/1/2009 3:14:41 PM)
75 years of educational and racial strife in Tulsa and it is still a joke to the racist.
Education must be inclusive of all. Yet I see in Tulsa whites and blacks remembering the past differently and in some cases with malice. Hence Tulsa's problem with race and education. We will never be able to solve one without the other.
Just a Travelers opinion.
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marine2.0
, (11/1/2009 4:04:09 PM)
irwindale, keep traveling through and take your opinion with ya. The only problem with race in the Tulsa schools is that TPS would rather focus on diversity than reading, writing and arithmatic.
moogle, great point.
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irwindale
, Tulsa (11/1/2009 4:30:05 PM)
Military life required travel to other environs. Gave perspective and clarity of thought.
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veteran_TPD
, Tulsa (11/1/2009 4:43:46 PM)
Interesting that we are discussing education in view of recent events.
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spirit07
, Tulsa (11/1/2009 4:47:15 PM)
Worst candidates ever. Vote Kirkpatrick
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oldnorthroad
, (11/1/2009 4:54:17 PM)
Corvetteguy
Without more intelligent people running this city, the same departments will be facing the same budget problems 10, 25, and 50 years from now.
People... do not be so short sighted as to dismiss the great importance of educational funding in this city.
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marine2.0
, (11/1/2009 5:22:09 PM)
What clarity? For that matter what thought? The problem is not race but the liberal mentality of the educators and administration that find it offensive to measure them based on their results. Everytime numbers of failure were released about TPS they always had an excuse and had some complaint about how the figures were counted or gathered. They never accepted responsibility. They even modified the superintendents contract to give him a raise even though he failed to meet the original contract requirements. The school board is a joke that thinks they outrank parents and failing schools retain their same leadership (I use that word loosely). TPS puts together a police department for the campuses and instead of a defined presence based on safety, security and accountability, they want the main focus mentorship. We all no in schools that are bombarded by thugs and gangs that all they need is someone to talk to. Give me a break!
There is some clarity of thought for ya.
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Popeye
, T-Town (11/1/2009 5:45:15 PM)
Obama stated this while stumping for New Jersey Govenor Corzine: "You need to work hard on Tuesday," Obama told a Camden crowd. "I need you to go back into your neighborhood. I'm going to need you to knock on doors. ... I'm going to need you to do the same thing you did last year."
That my friends is what the Democrats do better than the Republicans. The ONLY thing they do better...
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Corvetteguy
, Tulsa (11/1/2009 5:53:27 PM)
Right again Popeye.
Google search democratic party membership breakdowns.
See if who you surrounding yourself with, when you support today's democratic party, is representative of this great nation.
It's not the party that was founded a long, long time ago. That party was hijacked by the extreme left-wing liberal arm of the party. Take a good long look at the record of the current National Chairman of the Democratic Party.
Tell me that he represents the American working man.
Look it over, and then put your hand on your wallet. They will get into it, so they "spread the wealth around" as Joe the plumber was told.
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CEE
, (11/1/2009 6:07:22 PM)
The Tulsa city - and county - leadership may have an interest in education, but it is the responsibility of the school boards of the individual districts to make policy and the patrons of the various districts to vote funding. Consequently, there is little the Mayor or Counselors can do but discuss their concerns; they cannot make changes to either policies or funding as is is not within their job responsibilities.
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vaamroom
, Newton (11/1/2009 6:18:44 PM)
I was there today. The moderator asked them about Edison HS not letting the students watch President Obama's televised address. It was Perkins' turn to answer first and he said he didn't know anything about that. He hadn't heard that the President wanted to address school children. He even asked the moderator to tell him what he was talking about!! The moderator said that if Perkins didn't know anything about the issue that it was too complicated for him to catch up. Perkins doesn't even know what's going on in the world. He's clueless!! How do you miss that? Oh, and Perkins, have you heard it's flu season? Also, the whole thing wasn't about education, that's just what the World keeps wanting to report on. Hey moderators, stop asking about education. It's important, but it's not a city issue. The candidates can only answer the questions they are asked. These guys are just responding to the questions they're being asked.
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stringer
, (11/1/2009 6:57:14 PM)
Mairne...its "know" not "no".
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irwindale
, Tulsa (11/1/2009 7:02:53 PM)
...run on sentences. Paragraph, what paragraph. Marine and Vaamroom, take a refresher course between rants.
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Observer3
, (11/1/2009 7:12:10 PM)
CEE: I, too, was wondering why these Mayoral candidates chose to discuss "education," when they have no responsibility whatsoever for the educational process in Tulsa. I wish they would discuss City issues so I can make an informed decision in the voting booth in one week. I have yet to hear anything of any substances from any of them.
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The A Team
, (11/1/2009 7:23:00 PM)
What that kid doesn't know could fill a library, let alone a book.
He was probably too busy bar hopping and chasing skirts to pay attention to such things.
Perkins was at a All Souls forum Friday and said he would not support changing the building codes, as recommended by the recently approved, FEMA required(for federal disaster assistance) multi-hazard mitigation plan, to make Tulsa a more disaster resistant community.
His main priority is allowing builders to pad their profits by building substandard, less safe structures, not making Tulsa a safer city with better built, disaster resistant buildings at a minimal cost, to proactively reduce the expensive after effects of natural disasters in our community.
I keep sounding the alarm that this guy is just about carrying water for the Home Builders Association and the Tulsa Metro Chamber, here's yet another sign of that.
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irwindale
, Tulsa (11/1/2009 7:29:58 PM)
...of course Observer3 smiles with the thought of the Mayors office having limited or no control over the educational process here in "your Tulsa".
Gotta believe private schooling was out.
I would have expected the citizens of Tulsa to demand that their Mayors, through legislation, effect a change and provide the future of Tulsa more than what the school board has given you guys in the past.
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focuses
, (11/1/2009 7:41:14 PM)
The Company is an Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO) employer and does not discriminate in any employer/employee relations based on race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, national origin, age, marital status, disability, veteran's status or any other basis protected by applicable discrimination laws.
...above mentioned non-discrimination clause.
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thanks but no thanks
, (11/1/2009 7:57:32 PM)
Appears Dewey Bartlett took a few pages from the Kathy Taylor playbook. Endless budget meetings were scheduled to the accommodate Kathy's busy schedule but she did not both to attend the meetings. One can only imagine Bartlett is equally skilled with pounding on tables and storming out of meetings.
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sweeper
, (11/1/2009 8:26:50 PM)
This article has many errors. There was a wide range of topics, and the candidates just answered the questions they were asked. Perkins did well. Some of these posters just lie because they are in somebody's pocket.
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Nuff
, (11/1/2009 8:50:02 PM)
"Bartlett countered that experience is key to success as mayor, and said again that he would the "job-gettingist" mayor Tulsa has ever seen."
What kind of corn-ball crap is that? He wants to outsource as many services and jobs at City Hall as possible. According to Bartlett, "Everything is on the table when it comes to outsourcing."
And he plans to work 4 days as mayor and 1 day at Keener Oil.
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