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Goal: Insure Oklahomans
Authorities craft plans to sign up thousands of low-income residents.
By TOM LINDLEY World Capitol Bureau
Published:
12/15/2008 2:22 AM
Last Modified: 12/16/2008 1:01 AM
Correction
This story incorrectly reported the requirements for participation in the Insure Oklahoma program. To be eligible for Insure Oklahoma, an individual’s income cannot exceed 200 percent of the federal poverty level.
OKLAHOMA CITY — It has often flown under the radar since its inception four years ago, but Insure Oklahoma may soon become a household name in parts of Tulsa.
Oklahoma Health Care Authority officials say they will start working with community leaders to try to identify eligible clients and streamline the enrollment process in the state's insurance premium assistance program.
The goal is to sign up thousands of low-income, uninsured residents, which officials say would help address the city's uncompensated health-care problem. Officials say the program has room to expand by about 24,000 slots.
"It's our hope that it will buy long-term security and take pressure off of all the Tulsa-area hospitals," State Treasurer Scott Meacham said.
The concept was a key piece in an agreement reached in recent weeks between state and local negotiators to transfer operation of the OSU Medical Center and its residency program to St. John Health System.
Under the arrangement, the state will make available $51 million per year in federal and state funding under its Medicaid and Insure Oklahoma programs to residents of Tulsa. The goal is to reduce the level of uncompensated care at OSUMC.
Point-of-sale sign-ups:
Coverage will be offered through a "point-of-sale" sign-up at the hospital and other locations.
Pending legislative approval of a $48 million subsidy package, the hospital could change hands as early as March.
Nico Gomez, spokesman for the Health Care Authority, said the agency already is looking at a training concept that will empower health-care providers to sign up uninsured patients when they seek treatment.
It will mark a departure in how Insure Oklahoma's enrollment process has worked and could serve as a national blueprint for how to deliver more affordable health care, state officials say.
"I like the policy of having the government assist people in getting insurance, but it's been cumbersome to get people enrolled," Sen. Tom Adelson, D-Tulsa, said.
About Insure Oklahoma:
Facing one of the highest per-capita uninsured rates in the nation, Oklahoma lawmakers approved the program in 2004 in an attempt to help small businesses provide health coverage for their low- and middle-income employees.
Until now, Insure Oklahoma has focused primarily on providing insurance premium assistance for Oklahoma businesses that have 50 or fewer employees. About 3,600 businesses with about 10,600 enrollees participate.
Another 5,200 Oklahomans whose income exceeds 200 percent of the federal poverty level are covered under an individual plan.
Insure Oklahoma offers 274 health-care options through 20 participating insurance companies.
Funded through a combination of tobacco tax revenue and federal funds, Insure Oklahoma has taken in $32,957,179 and spent $11,193,457 through the first four months of the current fiscal year.
The average premium cost to individuals is $37.50 per month.
Kaiser commitment:
Under the Tulsa plan, an individual's share of the insurance premium may be underwritten by the George Kaiser Family Foundation.
The foundation has made up to a $20 million commitment to address the indigent care problem in Tulsa as part of the overall agreement between the state, the city and local hospitals.
"If that's what it will take to maximize participation, we won't shy away from it," said Ken Levit, executive director of the foundation.
Levit said the foundation also is considering a voucher program and financially backing an effort by nonprofit organizations to sign up eligible participants.
House Speaker Chris Benge, R-Tulsa, said Tulsa will now serve as a test case to see how effective Insure Oklahoma can be.
Gomez said the authority's outreach effort in Tulsa won't require any rule changes.
The authority, he said, already was in the process of asking for federal approval to increase the income limits in Insure Oklahoma to 250 percent of the federal poverty level. It is also seeking to increase the number of employees that a business can have from 50 to 250.
Details of Tulsa hospital agreement
Ardent Health Services will donate OSU Medical Center to a local trust.
St. John Health System will manage the hospital under agreement with the trust.
The state will guarantee existing medical education funds received by OSUMC.
The state will provide funding of $28 million for operations support of OSUMC at the beginning of the first year of the agreement and $5 million annually for four additional years.
The state, through a bond issue by OSU, will provide $25 million for capital needs of OSUMC during the first year of operations. St. John and OSU will jointly undertake a capital study to determine any additional capital needs of OSUMC.
The state will make available $51 million per year under its Medicaid and Insure Oklahoma insurance programs to reduce the level of uncompensated care at OSUMC.
The state will provide $2.5 million per year for Federally Qualified Health Centers to maximize federal funds to increase utilization of clinical facilities by Tulsa’s indigent population.
St. John and the George Kaiser Family Foundation will provide or raise $7 million per year for five years to support the operations of OSUMC.
Tom Lindley (405) 528-2465
tom.lindley@tulsaworld.com
By TOM LINDLEY World Capitol Bureau
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Mr. Neal
, Tulsa oklahoma (12/15/2008 6:20:10 AM)
Insure Oklahoma sounds to me like a gift from Heaven. I too suffer from no health insurance. In my opinion, if a commitment is needed to sign a certain amount of qualified companies,or individuals, please clearly publish a phone number, an internet address, or explain exactly where the "point-of-sale" can be found. I have not been able to ascertain this information. Maybe I need my head examined. Just please tell me where I should have this done!
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tulsan09
, Tulsa (12/15/2008 6:45:48 AM)
With all due respect, why do so many people think the TW is supposed to provide all of the details. That's not their job. You obviously have internet access, so simply go to Google and enter Insure Oklahoma. Then YOU can take responsibility for getting the information YOU need.
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j70
, (12/15/2008 6:51:02 AM)
Since I can't put in a link...w w w.oepic . ok. gov/ (take out the spaces).
I Googled "Insure Oklahoma."
Sadly (and who would have believed it) my family makes too much. We're in that gap between "make too little for assistance" and "can afford a good health insurance policy without assistance." Too bad they don't subtract your day care costs from the amount of your income for consideration.
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Eric
, Tulsa (12/15/2008 7:11:26 AM)
Not sure exactly what tulsan09 means, as there are plenty of folks in my neighborhood who get home delivery of the World but do not have Internet access (or even a computer) in their home.
Besides, I'd rather have a one-stop shop for news info since I do not have time to surf for all the details.
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Mr. Neal
, Tulsa oklahoma (12/15/2008 7:28:57 AM)
Eric, thank you for your comment.tulsan09 your idea of "due respect" escapes me.No offense intended.
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Tulsaboyw
, tulsa (12/15/2008 7:47:17 AM)
COoll but only if it exempts pre-existing.
In my wifes case, insurance is too expensive to bother with if it doesnt somehow exempt her.
Ie; in her case with diabetes, its cheaper to go without insurance and get it free via 'welfare' than to be a big $$ EARNER (me) and get it rejected.
In my case last year, her medical even with insurance was $8000.
Without insurance, our cost was half that.
Becuase we legitimately used the free options for those who are homeless.
Yet I have assets, but the government refuses to help those in the middle.
Eric, tulsan09's point was if the person could ask the quesiton on the internet, then they can google.
I agree about the non-computer people getting paper still (but thats not relevant here to Tulsan09's point).
Tulsan09 comment is valid, too many think a newspaper should do all their work for them.
I actualy know of a few people who never do google or any other search and despite being able to use email or pull up a website, still dont do that either.
And thats even people who are smart enough or aware enough to know about it.
My own 89 year old mother knows it, but has me do it for her.. (no pc), when she needs research done.
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Tulsaboyw
, tulsa (12/15/2008 8:09:50 AM)
google it;
there will be 3 main links (among others) to get to their site to get any and all questions answered.
In my own case, though I researched insure oklahoma and even if its great its usesless for me because the only doctors on it are too far away to be of any value to me.
My own doctor is not yet on it, and wont be for a while.
And it will cost enough to get to a doctor who is on it to make this plan worthless to me.
Ie; in most cases, the individuals doctor will not be on this plan unless they live potentially in bixby,sapulpa and other areas.
None in Tulsa last time I checked.
Until then, its worthless.
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Tulsaboyw
, tulsa (12/15/2008 8:14:16 AM)
Im not driving to bixby or sapulpa for medical when I can legitiamtely go to ER and get the same virtaully free on taxpayers dime.
Btw, I have assets enough to pay for it,but regular insurance is too expensive currently (except when working) to even consider in our familys case.
I do have bigtime highend catastrophic coverage but that is easy to get, since it covers nothing till I get up in $$ on costs, but once past that its 100%.
Last year, even with insurance, my familyes medical deductables was $17k.
Btw, My income last year was $32k total.
I used Carecredit (gemoney) to subsidize much of it, and still had huge deductions.
This year still will have similar deductions but on lower income but have fewer medical problems too.
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Tulsaboyw
, tulsa (12/15/2008 8:27:41 AM)
Btw, a quick search on insures list of docs shows only one in all of Tulsa County who fits my criteria.
English
male or female
Tulsa County
in my case though because the new doc would require a lot of new procedurs to be started up, going insure now with him will still cost me too much $$ up front to be worth it.
Its cheaper still to stay with the doc I have who is minutes away and already has everything done and its a matter of time before I get off the current medicals.
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Ricardo
, (12/15/2008 8:49:55 AM)
There are dozens of Tulsa physicians participating in Insure Oklahoma. Go to InsureOklahoma dot org, Click on "Find a provider". Look on p. 24-26, and p. 16.
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The Real Joe Dolty
, TULSA (12/15/2008 8:50:47 AM)
I tried applying for this online but it said I didn't qualify. I didn't give a reason. I don't think this is all it's cracked up to be. I doesn't appear to help the working people who don't have access to health care through work.
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The Real Joe Dolty
, TULSA (12/15/2008 8:51:43 AM)
I = It
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The Real Joe Dolty
, TULSA (12/15/2008 8:55:15 AM)
Eric, if your "one stop shop for news info" is the TW then you're sadly under and misinformed.
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G-Tulsa
, (12/15/2008 12:46:21 PM)
Call them if it says you don't qualify. The online system isn't perfect. They'll let you know what you can do. 1-888-3-OK-EPIC
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John M
, Tulsa (12/15/2008 3:40:17 PM)
I am on the Insure Oklahoma plan. It has solved at least 95% of my financial issues related to health care and I think it is great that Oklahoma has this plan.
However, it does exclude many because of gross income limits and you have to work for a small employer (less that 50 employees). There is a federal waiver that has been filed that would expand this but it has been sitting with the federal government for 17 months and I have not been able to find anyone that can tell me when or if this will get approved. This was left out of the article in the last paragraph.
Another item in the article that was incorrect concerns the reporter's comment about the 5,200 Oklahomans whose income exceeds 200 percent of the federal poverty level are covered under the individual plan. There is an employer and an individual plan. However, the gross income limits are the same for both plans.
Truth Patrol says it does not cover many of the large expenses that would set you back. Please give examples of what you are talking about.
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John M
, Tulsa (12/15/2008 7:58:45 PM)
TRUTH PATROL: You are correct in that they do not cover transplants, physical therapy and allergy treatment.
However, most people will not ever need a transplant and the therapy and allergy items are minor when compared to what they do cover. The biggest exposure most people have is ending up in the hospital with a major medical illness which without insurance can run into the thousands of dollars and would bankrupt most people. Under Insure Oklahoma the co-pay for Inpatient Hospital services is only $50. The emergency co-pay is only $30. The lifetime maximum is $1 million per member. Also, the co-pay for perscription drugs is only $10 for brand name or $5 for generic.
Here is the other point you are missing. A lot of people cannot get health insurance because of pre-existing health conditions. The insurance companies only want to insure healthy people. I was turned down for sleep apnea, even though I own my own CPAP machine which completely takes care of this issue. Under Insure Oklahoma, they do not turn people down for pre-existing health conditions.
I am not saying that the Insure Oklahoma program is perfect for everyone. If I needed a transplant I would be out of luck. But so far it is the best and only option that I have found to provide me a no-frills basic health insurance policy at a reasonable cost.
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John M
, Tulsa (12/15/2008 10:08:27 PM)
TRUTH PATROL: Since you have worked in the insurance industry, I am sure you do know much more than I do. However, I am trying to learn more about it. So please be patient with my lack of knowledge.
I have trouble believing that the therapy would be more expensive than the hospital stay, although you may be correct. I guess it would depend on the amount of therapy needed versus the length of the hospital stay and procedures done in the hospital. But if the hospital stay is paid for that is one less expenditure. It may be that people would have to forego or limit the therapy, or learn to do some exercises on their own.
I am sure you can find health insurance policies that cover many health costs that Insure Oklahoma would not cover. But as you say in your last sentence, something is better than nothing.
And you are correct that very few people qualify for Insure Oklahoma under the income and small-employer guidelines. It needs to be expanded but the federal government has sat on the waiver that would do this for 17 months.
Actually my wife has allergies and just went through a full series of testing. The cost was $240 which I am paying the full price with no help from Insure Oklahoma. Do I wish I had insurance that would pay for this? Sure! But in looking at all my other health care costs for me and my wife (drugs, lab fees, office visits, bone scans, mammograms, pap smears, insurance premiums) I have already saved well over a thousand dollars over the insurance we previously had and I have only been on Insure Oklahoma for a couple of months.
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John M
, Tulsa (12/16/2008 12:06:01 AM)
I agree, it is better to insure for the unlikely big costs and self-insure for the little costs.
Heart disease, cancer, diabetes and stroke are common medical conditions that can run up big bills. In looking at the Insure Oklahoma handbook, here are some of the services they DO cover that I think could be helpful in treating these diseases:
Anesthesia, Chemotherapy, Radiation, Diabetic Supplies, X-Ray, Medical Equipment, Emergency Services, Inpatient and Outpatient Hospital Services, Laboratory, Oxygen, Prescription Drugs and insulin, Specialty Clinic Visits
These services are either fully covered or have small co-pays.
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