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HB 1804 ruling remains in limbo
It's been months since attorneys argued the case in Tulsa.

Officers process an illegal immigrant in 2007. Tulsa World file
 
By BILL BRAUN World Staff Writer
Published: 12/27/2008  2:22 AM
Last Modified: 12/27/2008  2:29 AM


Read the lawsuit filed in Tulsa County District Court challenging the constitutionality of HB 1804.
tulsaworld.com/1804petition


More than eight months after attorneys argued legal points in a Tulsa County courtroom, a judge has yet to rule on a challenge to the constitutionality of a state law dealing with immigration.

After listening to lawyers address the issues on April 11, District Judge Jefferson Sellers did not resolve the matter and set no decision date.

He gave lawyers the opportunity to submit proposed "findings of facts and conclusions of law," which were filed in May.

Sellers recently said the case is still awaiting his decision, and he declined to estimate when that will be issued.

Sellers is "very thoughtful," said Steve Hickman, one of the attorneys who filed the case Jan. 3.

"Hopefully he will come to the right decision," he said.

The suit contends that the law known as House Bill 1804, enacted in 2007, creates a Bureau of Immigration in Oklahoma and allows for appropriation and expenditure of public funds in violation of the state constitution.

The plaintiff is Michael C. Thomas, identified as a resident taxpayer of Tulsa County. His father, James Thomas, is one of his attorneys and also is a law professor at the University of Tulsa.

The lawsuit asserts that HB 1804 includes multiple subjects in violation of a constitutional requirement that every act of the Legislature must embrace only one subject.

The suit — seeking to prevent an "alleged wrongful expenditure of public funds" for "enforcement of an unconstitutional statute" — listed Gov. Brad Henry and the Tulsa County Board of Commissioners as defendants. The commissioners have been dismissed from the case.

Henry is represented by state Attorney General Drew Edmondson's office.

On Henry's behalf, Assistant Attorney General Daniel Weitman has argued that the law "touches on immigration" but does not establish a Bureau of Immigration.

HB 1804, which was "overwhelmingly" approved by the Legislature, is intended "to protect the taxpayer and the state's resources from the adverse affects of illegal immigration," Weitman has said.

Among other facets, the law makes it illegal to knowingly transport illegal immigrants, creates state barriers to hiring illegal immigrants and requires proof of citizenship before one can get certain government benefits.

In June, U.S. District Judge Robin Cauthron of Oklahoma's Western District issued an injunction in a federal lawsuit involving HB 1804. That suit was filed against the state by multiple chambers of commerce and business groups.

Cauthron'sinjunction blocked two aspects of the law from taking effect as scheduled on July 1.

One would require an employer to verify a worker's eligibility for employment within the United States before that employer could be eligible for state contracts. The other would require businesses to verify the work- authorization status of individual independent contractors to avoid state tax penalties.

An appeal of that injunction is unresolved before the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Denver.

The Tulsa County suit says it raises challenges "premised exclusively upon the Oklahoma Constitution, without any federal constitutional consideration."

James Thomas said Sellers does not need to delay a ruling until after the 10th Circuit rules on Cauthron's case.

A plaintiff's memorandum in the Tulsa County case says that "this is the time for this Oklahoma state court to provide the leadership to the federal courts." It also "respectfully points to the passage of time that has elapsed since the parties last argued the case."

Edmondson's office has asserted that statutes created by HB 1804 are not in violation of Oklahoma statutory law or the state's constitution.

James Thomas said that however Sellers rules, his decision will be appealed to the state Supreme Court.




Bill Braun 581-8455
bill.braun@tulsaworld.com


House Bill 1804 law

  • Makes it a felony to knowingly transport illegal aliens.
  • Creates state barriers to hiring illegal immigrants.
  • Requires state contractors to check the immigration status of workers.
  • Requires proof of citizenship to receive certain government benefits.

By BILL BRAUN World Staff Writer

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Isaac Parker, Tulsa (12/27/2008 7:01:14 AM)
This case is all about liberal, leftist lawyers searching for loopholes in the law to thwart HB 1804, and the will of Oklahoma citizens against ILLEGAL immigration.
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CWG, Tulsa (12/27/2008 7:29:16 AM)
1804 will stand the tests,citizens should be aware of who is using illegals and who is in support of killing this legislation and respond with your wallets.
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CWG, Tulsa (12/27/2008 8:01:11 AM)
kerugma, falsely labeling people does not change the truth.You did not tell us how HB 1804 is about RACISM,BIGOTRY,and HATE MONGERING.In return,let me label you as a mud slinger who would lie when the truth sounded better.
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CWG, Tulsa (12/27/2008 8:25:56 AM)
Tell us how HB 1804 promotes all these awful practices. What is wrong with being a legal worker? When it is time for me to renew my mechanical license I will have to provide a copy of a drivers license and a birth certificate,perhaps I should resist this RACISM,BIGOTRY, and HATE MONGERING. This was brought on me in part because the country is full of sneaks who do not belong here.
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my view, Sand Springs (12/27/2008 9:10:41 AM)
When that new congress convene's they had better be careful, a large majority of Americans want to put a stop to illegal immigration. There are other states that looking a passing bills similar to HB1804. I find it odd that those elected Democrats in Washington fight immigration bills. Could it be, that they as well as some posting on this site think that may just enlarge the Democratic base.
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tfromtulsa, Tulsa (12/27/2008 9:27:03 AM)
illegal immigrant n. an alien (non-citizen) who has entered the United States without government permission or stayed beyond the termination date of a visa. (See: alien)

alien 1) n. a person who is not a citizen of the country. 2) in the United States any person born in another country to parents who are not American and who has not become a naturalized citizen. There are resident aliens officially permitted to live in the country and illegal aliens who have sneaked into the country or stayed beyond the time allowed on a visa.
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tfromtulsa, Tulsa (12/27/2008 9:31:40 AM)
"Requires proof of citizenship to receive certain government benefits."

Do any of you pro-illegal people think we should give government benefits to people who have sneaked into the country and are not citizens?
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Paula, Midtown (12/27/2008 9:49:38 AM)
Funny how the TW always talks only to people who are against 1804.
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Travis, Tahlequah (12/27/2008 9:50:02 AM)
Illegal immigration might be a hot topic for PEBO since his aunt is here illegally. Maybe that is why PEBO supports the idea of a slap on the wrist fine and move to the back of the line approach.

kerugma, Just how does supporting HB 1804 make one a racist? Do you even know the meaning of the word? How does it make someone a bigot? how does it make someone a hate monger?

HB 1804 will probably withstand the court challenges.
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tfromtulsa, Tulsa (12/27/2008 10:02:54 AM)
Paula - I'm sure it's a very short list.
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Scritchner, Tulsa (12/27/2008 10:06:21 AM)
"Requires state contractors to check the immigration status of workers.

Requires proof of citizenship to receive certain government benefits."

Wow, you would have thought this was standard practice in Oklahoma.

I think the fact that we feel the NEED to pass a law like this shows the discrepency between the goals of the community and the goals of business's here in the state. If it's reached this level it's not just because a few "bad apples".

I'm not a big supporter of this bill, only because most of the jobs that illegals generally take are those that only the most uneducated or unskilled have to resort to. I'm not trying to defend illegal immigration, but I think we should concentrate on the root of the problem rather than an effect of the bigger problem. They can't get jobs if they can't get in the country.
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FS, Broken Arrow (12/27/2008 10:26:03 AM)
kerugma, Broken Arrow (12/27/2008 7:37:22 AM)
HB1804 is NOT about ILLEGAL immigration.
HB1804 IS about RACISM, BIGOTRY and HATE MONGERING!
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Wrong - You seem to identify the word 'illegal' with a particular group. In that case, the law would be hate-based, and therefore quite illegal. If you personally are using the word 'illegal' as another word for a particular group, then you are guilty of a hate crime and should be prosecuted and jailed.

The word 'illegal' in this context means an individual who hasn't the right to be in the country because they didn't follow the proper channels upon entry.

Perhaps if you were to return to school ...

There is no discrimination here
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Popeye, T-Town (12/27/2008 10:27:45 AM)
"The southern strategy crashed and burned..." Hililarious! Is there no end to drooling, heart-worm infested canine yipping?

Judging by the comments I'm seeing in several threads, I'm not the only one that made a decision to ignore canines and bovines...
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FS, Broken Arrow (12/27/2008 10:30:15 AM)
Bville Yellow Dog, Bville
Actually to his credit even Bush was in favor of a rational immigration bill ...as was McSame before he started pandering to the hard right.
Given that the "Southern Strategy" crashed and burned you can expect progress.
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Bush was for anything that would give his cheerleaders access to cheap labor - the man had a vendetta for the American middle class and was determined to destroy it.

Thank God he's almost gone. I'm not sure, as others, what we replaced him with but ...
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CWG, Tulsa (12/27/2008 10:30:43 AM)
kerugma, the requirement that I complained about is a new requirement and I am sure that resistance to HB 1804 had something to do with it.Illegal aliens are not just doing mundane work, they are getting good jobs for nothing.
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jess, (12/27/2008 10:48:35 AM)
Come on folks, cut the Political tirades. Lets use some common sense. legal immigration OK, illegal immigration NOT OK.

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Skeptic, Tulsa (12/27/2008 12:23:16 PM)
I agree jess, seems pretty simple.

I wouldn't allow an uninvited person to live in my house so why would I agree to have someone "uninvited" stay in my country.
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R U 4 Real?, GREATER TULSA AREA (12/27/2008 1:39:18 PM)
skeptic...
I agree.
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okie ridgerunner, small town (12/27/2008 1:48:33 PM)
Jess, Skeptic, - I agree.
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Timk35266, (12/27/2008 1:51:09 PM)
I am one of those immigrants all of you are ranting about. In case you want to know I came here legally. This whole discusion is almost funny. Only in the United States, is someone who wants to protect his or her own nation called a bigot, or racist. Almost all nations around the globe have very strict immigration policy. And for good reason. Why should this wonderful country be any different? The U.S.A. is not what it once was, because you no longer stand together. You no longer see yourselves as one people, perhaps now would be a good time to stop the mass invasion of your country before you don't have any national identity, or country anymore.
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CWG, Tulsa (12/27/2008 3:31:28 PM)
Amen Don't know much,if the people in this state---both Dem.& Rep. would do what is right,the illegal aliens would leave Oklahoma.
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Diana D, madill (12/27/2008 4:23:07 PM)
Limbo's good, at least in Oklahoma, i'll take limbo, because when a law is in limbo oklahoma law enforcement don't do nuthin, cuz it might make the wrong guy mad, so a few jobs are safe for a while...yep limbo is good.
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CWG, Tulsa (12/27/2008 5:07:35 PM)
What jobs need protection Diana D?
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Citizen M, Bartlesville (12/27/2008 5:21:05 PM)
Rules for District Courts of Oklahoma
Rule 27. Matters Taken Under Advisement and Service of Orders and Judgments.

In any matter taken under advisement, a decision shall be rendered within sixty (60) days of the date on which the matter was taken under advisement or, if briefs are to be submitted, within sixty (60) days of the date of the filing of the final brief.

When a trial court takes a matter under advisement, the judge shall specify the date by which a decision shall be rendered. If briefs are to be submitted, the dates for filing such shall also be specified.

The Chief Justice may extend the deadline for a decision upon sworn application for an extension of time of the trial judge setting forth with specificity the reasons therefor.

Looks like this judge needs to do his job.
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CWG, Tulsa (12/27/2008 5:57:05 PM)
Someone point out Citizen M's inaccurate definition of the court's rules in order to stop me from getting outraged again at the court system again.
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