copperhead, (2/14/2009 5:00:37 AM)

I'm thinking at least two employees at the paper would strongly disagree with those who consider or would have others believe the Tulsa World to be ultra conservative.

my view, Sand Springs (2/14/2009 5:07:21 AM)

Well a few people wasted their time and the time of the county workers. What was gain? Nothing.

What in the World!, Tulsa, OK (2/14/2009 6:30:07 AM)

Odd the TW runs this story again. What is the purpose of this story? Oklahoma and most people who live here believe a marriage is between a male and female. If they want to be married move to a state that recognizes gay marriages. If they want to be considered husband and wife stay in the state they married. Gee, not hard. Just dont expect to force your lifestyle on us that believe differently.

zzx375, BA (2/14/2009 7:26:30 AM)

What new information, not available ten years ago,
now compels acceptance of homosexual marriage?

sickboy_918, Tulsa Sucks (2/14/2009 7:40:54 AM)

In the case of a divorce, who would pay alimony?? Who would pay child support?? Silly people!

justiceawaits, Claremore (2/14/2009 7:44:18 AM)

More pro gay garbage from the Tulsa world.The vast majority of Oklahomans do not accept this deviant behavior as a life style no matter how many time TW insists on writing about this propaganda.

William42, Broken Arrow (2/14/2009 8:07:09 AM)

Interesting - every single comment here so far is filled with reason. No ranting and raving, just good common sense. That's refreshing. :o)

Lunatk, (2/14/2009 8:24:21 AM)

Yea, ranting and raving about gays would really suck.

DOLOLLY P SNERD, TULSA (2/14/2009 8:28:01 AM)

What brave souls these folks are! Times are a!changin, like it or not!! Too bad Oklahoma is always last to join everything! I fully support same-sex marriage.

Echos, Tulsa (2/14/2009 8:43:23 AM)

A husband is male...........A wife is female...... How did everyone get so screwed up with this definition and start thinking is will ever be different. Stupid article needs to be cut. Get back in the closet and stay there. UGH

born okay the 1st time, tulsa (2/14/2009 9:20:50 AM)

OMG the evil gay people are on the loose! Lock up your children! Hurry! before they see that the world isn't just shades of black & white! Hurryyyyyyyyyyyyy!
Seriously, get a life folks, the world doesn't revolve around just straight christians.Their existence isn't hurting you & if they do get married, it STILL isn't hurting you.

Bodean, Tulsa (2/14/2009 9:30:10 AM)

Echos, (2/14/2009 8:43:23 AM)

Honey, the closet door was thrown open in the 1960s. Get used to it or bury your head deeper in the sand.

Sarge776, Tulsa (2/14/2009 10:42:26 AM)

With all the changes throughout our history, and even to the point where gays have come out and demanded their rights, I am still unconvinced that since they are a special interest group, they shouldn't be granted any more special rights than anyone else. As far as those gays who are church going Christians, the only way, that it will ever be known if God accepts their behavior or not, is if they make it past the pearly gates of Heaven. How are we to know that for sure, unless someone comes back from Heaven and says, "Guess what, Gays are accepted into Heaven as well." I know that Gays come from all walks of life, and no profession is without them in their ranks. Would they be a burden on the health system if they were able to get insurance together? Would they break the Social Security bank if allowed to receive benefits if one of the parties dies and the surviving spouse received those benefits? If one of the spouses was in the military and died, would they be able to receive death benefits? If they divorced, would the "husband" have to pay alimony or child support if a child was a part of the marriage? Too many questions to which laws would have to be enacted just to satisfy a special interest group of people who for one reason or another is gay. But one day, I can assure you, it probably will happen. I may not like it, but eventually, the gay population may be a large part of our legislative body, and they will be making the laws governing our state and our nation.

zzx375, BA (2/14/2009 10:43:30 AM)

"No ranting no raving - just bigotry."

Of course it would be asking too much as to show how you arrived at this point...

kyote, (2/14/2009 1:40:13 PM)

Does Oklahoma laws specify clearly that a marriage license cannot be issued to anyone seeking one? As I read this article it only refers to marriage. I would question this if I were half of a same sex couple. I mean a license could be issued and a ceremony performed by a clergy in their church, but could not be filed with the state because they do not recognize same sex marriages, so give these people their license if the law doesn't say no on that subject.

LocalBoy, B.A. (2/14/2009 2:53:05 PM)

Gee, people sure get defensive when their idea of normal gets challenged. That has always been a sign of insecurity.

There were times when slavery was normal. There were time when feudalism was normal. Women were once chattel. They couldn't vote. I remember when girls were not allowed to wear pants to school but were required to wear shorts under their skirt/dress. I remember when racial equality, womens "lib", "free love", and peace rallies all drew the same fearful defensiveness that gay rights issues bring today.

They will persevere and someday these times will be a memory of backwards ways past and insecure folk will have found something new to get their hackles up about. These efforts are not wasted. The same kind of perseverance brought an end to the Viet Nam conflict and the Berlin wall.

The wasted efforts are those who resist progress.

Few Clothes, Austin, TX (2/14/2009 4:25:31 PM)

Another of the couples turned away for a marriage license were Mary Bishop, an assistant city editor at the Tulsa World, and Sharon Baldwin, a copy editor for the newspaper.
Bishop and Baldwin were among those who in November 2004 filed a still-pending federal lawsuit that challenges an Oklahoma constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages.

The lawsuit was filed one day after state voters overwhelmingly approved State Question 711, which wrote a ban on same-sex marriages into the state constitution.

CWG, Tulsa (2/14/2009 6:18:04 PM)

Kelly Kirby and Charles Johnston should be listed as homosexual mates if they want a listing.Normal behavior is why husband and wife and family has always been defined as it is.

R U 4 Real?, BA (2/14/2009 7:53:41 PM)

I think the gays should be allowed to get married, unified, or legally hitched. I do not care what they call it.
I believe equal marriage for equal divorce.
That what I said.
The married gays who get divorced should have to feel the financial effect of the divorce just as I had to.

R U 4 Real?, BA (2/14/2009 7:54:21 PM)

BTW I am not trying to be politically correct.

CWG, Tulsa (2/14/2009 7:56:53 PM)

Anna Conda--- everyone knows the terminology,the minority is trying to force their lifestyle on the majority and the majority is not wrong about what they think is normal behavior.

justiceawaits, Claremore (2/14/2009 8:27:55 PM)

Few Clothes, thanks for the info.

I'mjustme, Thomasville (2/14/2009 8:38:29 PM)

CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY THE TULSA WORLD KEEPS DIGGING UP THESE ARTICLES?


Ignore the folks trying to stir up a problem...........

redbird, Tulsa (2/14/2009 10:45:56 PM)

I applaud the Tulsa World on this wonderful article on Valentine's Day. Sorry if it makes some people uncomfortable. I guess they'll just have to get used to it.

Skeptic, Tulsa (2/14/2009 11:21:58 PM)

Great posts ANNA CONDA!

CWG. No one is trying to force their lifestyle on anyone else. Gay people only want to be respected and acknowledged that their love choice is legitimate. Whether or not that occurs, gay people will continue to exist.

Oklahoma rednecks and redneck christians need to get ready to accept the fact that the world is changing and, unfortunately, they will soon be left behind. Most financial institutions already recognize that gay couples have more discretionary income than straight couples. Money talks and Republicans listen, so get ready for some amazingly radical changes to occur as it relates to gay relations.

Wouldn't it be amazing if Oklahoma was ahead of the curve for a change instead of the butt of the jokes?