PAN, (4/8/2009 12:52:39 AM)

As a victim of past domestic abuse, I am so relieved to know that victims and their children do have a place to go even if the current facilies are full. DVIS was a wonderful help to me even though I had somewhere to go - they will help no matter what. I do wonder, though, if there are any shelters for men who are victims. I'm a female, but this is not just a 'male' thing; it also occurs with a female as a perpetrator. Thank you for the shelters and thank you DVIS!

hardnosebull, KETCHUM (4/8/2009 4:18:56 AM)

My heart goes out to these families! I cant believe that there has been 8 mass killings in the last month. The Last was in alabama monday. People killing others and killing themselves. We need to get back to the fundamentals of what this country was built on. Instead we are building buddhist monuments in Tulsa, the former Bible belt. Everyone in this country has gone their own way. We need to unite and have a common goal. We need to start with Love. The church that is taking in these distressed women are examples of Love. Love in this country has been perverted and caused an extreme phenomenon of chaos relating to disease etc.... God shed his grace on thee.........

CPT Ron, Lawton (4/8/2009 5:21:36 AM)

Or you could let the victims of domestic violence stay at home with the kids and put the husband in jail until he learns his lesson not to injure women and children.

Eric, Tulsa (4/8/2009 6:04:08 AM)

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Sad commentary on our times.
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The economy certainly plays a key role.
I wouldn't be so quick to blame religion, although there could be some vague connection.
Drugs, alcohol and/or gambling addiction could also weigh in as causes.
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Regardless, we all know a restraining order is a joke.
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kiotee-mee, Coweta (4/8/2009 6:26:49 AM)

i agree with CPT Ron, the abuser should be jailed even if the women & children are in a safe house...i know every city has an abundance of hotel/motel rooms, couldn't these be used as a safe place for these women & children to stay? it is a shame that these crimes are up & it would be a very scary feeling to ask for help out of an abusive situation & find out there was no where to go.....

wilson, (4/8/2009 6:37:20 AM)

Mr. Purdy, thanks for the compliment. A church who follows Jesus teachings must, however, be overzealous. He was the most overzealous person who ever walked the face of the earth.

Mistic_wolf, Tahlequah (4/8/2009 8:21:04 AM)

I am staying at a DV shelter. If it wasn't for being there I don't know where me and my daughter would be. I know it is hard making the choice to get out but it is so worth it.
On the 15th I am going to Oklahoma City to talk to the Legislatures about the shelters and other things.

NEO, (4/8/2009 8:29:13 AM)

Do these shelters accept clothing donations? I can't give money but have women's and children's clothing to donate.

Phil # 3, Yukon (4/8/2009 8:52:38 AM)

Funny how most claims of "domestic abuse" are false yet everyone is so ready, willing and obviously able to believe each one is solid gold.(I'm not claiming it doesn't happen by any means) Another funny fact, women are almost as abusive as men yet there are only a handful of similar shelters for men in the entire nation, none that I am aware of in Oklahoma.
For a fact, false domestic abuse charges are very instrumental and commonly used in kicking a man out of his home and family and forcing him to pay for the privilege after having done nothing wrong, simply because society swallows the propaganda so easily.
The funniest thing about domestic abuse is finding what these women's groups claim domestic abuse consists of. There are instances were raising one's voice, slamming a door or even a man defending himself against an abusive wife has been named as "domestic abuse".

Companion, elyocp (4/8/2009 9:31:41 AM)

Jim Purdy...the only thing I dislike about the Baptist shelter is the forced church and bible studies. What about the atheists ? I'm atheist and I just want to scream and hold my hands over my ears when somebody preaches the bible to me. I'm a confirmed atheist. It's like an atheist preaching to a confirmed christian about evolution or there is no God.

Sharkey Hammerhead, owasso (4/8/2009 10:23:13 AM)

First let me thank all the people who deal with this service, it truly is a thankless job.. Then for the women and men who have to get away I applaude you and your courage, and then there is Mr. purdy and companion, KNowing Jesus is different than church .. All the Believers I know , know that its a choice , you don`t want to know him thats cool thats your choice.. A true Christian won`t force anything on anyone.. Besides tell me one thing about Jesus that you didn`t like ( myth or not doesn`t he stand for love and caring, forgiveness) I mean what could it hurt..at least you would have fire insurance

Mar, Tulsa (4/8/2009 10:58:51 AM)

As long as women will put up with abusers, they will be abused. As Ann Landers always said, "you can only be taken advantage of, if you let yourself be taken advantage of". Also, you teach people how to treat you.

Samuel-Adams, Bixby (4/8/2009 11:35:57 AM)

It is a great community service that these shelters are providing to the battered women who need help. It always amazes me that atheists seem to be experts on God, Jesus, and Christianity. That would be like a McDonald's fry cook explaining brain surgery. How can they know so much about someone they don't believe in or so much about a book they have never read???

lucky girl, (4/8/2009 11:45:26 AM)

Sad that this is such a growing problem.

Tulsa Song, Tulsa (4/8/2009 12:10:40 PM)

Most non-profit agencies do take donations and everything useable is probably accepted to one or the other agency.

People can dial 2-1-1 for volunteer opportunities and agencies who take donations. 2-1-1 has a comprehensive database and serves over 12-counties surrounding Tulsa -- and is growing.

Lisajones, Madisonville, (4/8/2009 1:08:12 PM)

I was in a shelter 10 years ago. No man will evr abuse me again.

aT pEaCe, (4/8/2009 1:19:37 PM)

Being a former client of the shelter and currently still in the “system”, I would like to say that had I had a father, I am sure he would have protected me from the horrendous sexual and emotional abuse that happened to me as a child. He was a Firefighter,killed in the line-of-duty when I was two. I thank God for DVIS and their Program – they have absolutely worked miracles in my life. In the past 10 months I have started college, have an excellent job, acquired knowledge of what a real relationship is supposed to be and most important, been relieved of a life time of addiction to drugs and alcohol. In my 40’s today, I can honestly say that DVIS saved my life. I am happy, safe and excited about my future!

Bullhead, Nicut (4/8/2009 1:31:20 PM)

4th in the nation. That's bad.

Twilight in Paris, near the water in SE OK (4/8/2009 1:42:33 PM)

good to know there is a place for them to go, but it's sad that they are filling up and less room for others who need help too.

Build another one or two Ms. Taylor...please!

my_2_cents!, Inola (4/8/2009 2:42:18 PM)

I think they should hand out free guns to all these women and teach them how to defend themselves. That would solve the problem. If a man beat me and I decided to stay I would be an idiot for staying. If a man tried to hurt one of my children he would have a bullet between his eyes. Problem solved.

okie ridgerunner, small town (4/8/2009 2:44:07 PM)

This is very sad. i am sure glad there is help out there.
aT pEaCe.--I am happy for you. Thank GOD.

This is something the mayor could help with if she cares.

a disciple, Glenpool (4/8/2009 3:18:20 PM)

I appreciate the people who are protecting these victims of domestic violence. They are contributing a much needed service to people who need it.

scooter2, (4/8/2009 4:10:00 PM)

PAN, Thank you yeah there are alot of women who are abusive to. Most of them though are abusive Mentally to Men. Always nagging and never anything good to say about them, is MENTAL abuse then they wonder why they drink and do drugs. Yeah.. If they didn't see anything good in them why in the World where they with??? Anyone ever figure that out?? Just as behind every good man is a woman,usually behind every man that ain't doing good is a woman too!!!! By the way I am a woman..

Daddy Al, Glenpool (4/8/2009 4:24:41 PM)

Most christians blindly accept what they are told on matters of faith. Aethiests, agnostics, and deists at least took time to examine it and question it. So Samuel-Adams, who really did their homework?

Daddy Al, Glenpool (4/8/2009 4:26:41 PM)

But religious argument aside, these shelters are a wonderful service. Any man who lays a hand on a woman is nothing but a coward.

Samuel-Adams, Bixby (4/8/2009 4:37:37 PM)

To Daddy Al, "Most Christians blindy accept what they are told on matter of faith." Interesting statistic that you have here and do you have a legitimate source for this statistic? Just because you question something does not mean you have studied it or examined it fully. You should go back to watching Helen Degenerate and the View and spare us the garbage that Atheists have actually studied Christianity and the Bible.

owen, Tulsa (4/8/2009 6:06:05 PM)

AT Peace: I am so glad that you survived and are living a life you love now. You still have a lifetime ahead of you to enjoy.

wHAT_NOW?, Tulsa (4/8/2009 7:44:35 PM)

Whether it is the recession that is bringing women out of the violence into shelters, or not...glad to hear they are not being turned away from all shelters. It takes a lot of courage to leave, EVEN a bad situation. With no place to go, women are often faced with returning to the abusive spouse, and enduring the abuse.

wHAT_NOW?, Tulsa (4/8/2009 7:47:08 PM)

Scooter2....there is never an excuse for abusing your wife! Women don't force men to drink and do drugs, and beat them up. It is always a matter of choice! No matter what someone says to a man, they should never strike them, or abuse them. Mental abuse is serious, but a man STILL should never strike their wife (or children in anger).

FaithnHim, Crested Bute, CO (4/8/2009 9:54:08 PM)

How did we become so angry...Abuse is at epidemic proportions..No doubt there are many women abusers who should be held accountable for their actions; however, statistics clearly show men are by far the majority when it comes to abusing women and children. So many factors contributing to their anger. Men are the 'so called' providers, yet if they are unable to provide it causes much mental anguish and they feel like a failure even though they may never admit it...Never an excuse worthy of abusing anyone, let alone a woman or a child. Thank GOD (who does exist) for the people in our society who reach out their hands to those in need...No matter your beliefs...Thank you for caring!!

Sharkey Hammerhead, owasso (4/8/2009 10:46:56 PM)

Purdy, I will pray for you , Even if what you say is true and Jesus isn`t the guy, I still think its the best thing going, All he asks us to do is to love ,care, and share. No where does it say that I have to earn my way into heaven, he already bought me a ticket , Really Jim , I`m in love with the love story, It also has given me hope when things weren`t working out in my life....I guess what I`m trying to say , its a matter of faith.. I have also expeirenced his love first hand..

Mr. Brown, Fallon, Nevada (4/9/2009 4:26:46 PM)

I guess since there hasn't been an article written
in awhile to allow our resident athiests to vent their disbelief, they'll turn an article about domestic abuse into one. Maybe their time would be better spent volunteering for the many charity organizations that the athiests are providing.