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Cameras suggested for nursing homes
 
By MICHAEL McNUTT NewsOK.com
Published: 5/1/2009  2:24 AM
Last Modified: 5/1/2009  4:22 AM

OKLAHOMA CITY — State nursing homes should allow families of nursing home residents to put video cameras in their rooms, Oklahoma County District Attorney David Prater said Thursday.

"If they're aboveboard and fully staffed and take care of the residents, what do they have to hide?" he asked during a hearing on nursing homes at the state Capitol.

"I would think they would offer that option to the residents."

Reached later, the executive director of the Oklahoma Association of Health Care Providers said cameras are in place in common areas in some nursing homes.

But Becky Moore said residents are hesitant to have cameras placed in their rooms.

"There is no law against putting cameras in nursing homes," she said.

"Most of our personal care is at bedside, and residents don't want people taking pictures of their personal care being done."

A camera "in more cases than not is used to sue a nursing facility," Moore said.

"That is an issue I'm sure for many providers."

Wes Bledsoe, founder of the Oklahoma nursing home watchdog group A Perfect Cause, said a state program that gives financial incentives to nursing homes is "a dismal system."

The system is based on a five-star rating and allows participating nursing homes to receive a bonus for each star they earn.

Some five-star nursing homes received as much as a $198,000 bonus the first year, while others that rated one star received nothing, according to the Oklahoma Health Care Authority, which administers the program.

About $13 million reportedly has been paid in the last year.
mmcnutt@opubco.com
By MICHAEL McNUTT NewsOK.com

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Some reader comments for this story were copied from "Advocate criticizes state's nursing homes," which was published on 4/30/2009.

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seymore1965, Tulsa (4/30/2009 6:24:17 PM)
I would like to know where these fictitious so-called "good" nursing homes are in Oklahoma. You hear about them sometimes but no one knows where in the world they are. Rebecca Moore knows that statement is a darn lie. She's pretty desperate to say something positive to make such a claim. And the residents ought to be able to have cameras in their room as an option. Is Rebecca Moore afraid of the abuse and neglect cameras will show?
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svedy, (4/30/2009 7:21:26 PM)
Hey Seymore1965, why don't you get off your couch and go volunteer at a local nursing home and then comment. You have no opinion until you have some justification to make a comment like you did.Your a typical blowhard that likes to opin without knowledge!
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seymore1965, Tulsa (4/30/2009 7:30:01 PM)
I have been a resident at two nursing homes.
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svedy, (4/30/2009 7:33:21 PM)
I'm sure you were; comments like yours are typical of nursing home residents!!!!!I provide services for the developmentally disabled and I find that hard to believe.I would think you are close to Drew Bledsoe. End of comments!
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seymore1965, Tulsa (4/30/2009 7:41:27 PM)
I have experienced abuse and neglect first hand in the nursing homes.
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Trish40, tulsa (4/30/2009 7:54:19 PM)
I think one of the biggest problems in nursing homes is the inadequate staffing and the cna pay. I think if cna's could earn a decent living more people who actually care about the residents would be working with them, I do not condone any kind of resident abuse. The residents deserve dignity and respect and cna's deserve more pay and more help.
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wk, (4/30/2009 9:49:11 PM)
The residents deserve a lot but we as taxpayers don't want to pay for it. About 85% of all residents are paid for through medicare or medicaid and everyone wants to complain but no one wants to pay more tax so the facilities can be adequately compensated for quality care. Prater should know better than to stump for services without funding, its the same thing we do to all state run offices like his.
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Guywire, Claremore (4/30/2009 11:21:13 PM)
In visiting many nursing homes, it seems that the homes operating as a State licensed business is never as well operated as those of a religious organization. It takes a lot of volunteers, that care.
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seymore1965, Tulsa (5/1/2009 6:35:29 AM)
If there's video of what happened, the district attorney will have better evidence of what happened during the abuse after the complaint is turned in.
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jaha, (5/1/2009 7:05:21 AM)
I agree with Trish40 if the staff were paid a decent salary they might get quality staff who really care.
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A Tulsan, (5/1/2009 8:46:06 AM)
So why not put cameras in hospitals too, oh yeah, now we're on a roll here. How about dentist and doctor offices too? Why not the local tatoo parlor too (the owasso tatoo story)? Abuse happens all over. Remember (I believe it was last year) the Tulsa dentist that abused? Abuse/theft/rape/robbery happens in so many businesses that it makes no sense to pick on only one industry. I believe cameras will only be used against the nursing homes. Health care facilities are already so heavily regulated why put further burden on them? Oh yeah, and guess who pays the price for these cameras and other monitoring programs? WE DO!!!! The cost of keeping one patient in a nursing facility is already huge.
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Diana D, madill (5/1/2009 10:33:43 AM)
ABSOLUTELY! They should have done this years ago! At least in the hallways. I only worked in the best of homes, i still wouldn't want to stay there. If they don't want them in the rooms, i can understand that, but in the hallways, dining rooms, activity rooms, you betcha!
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JuggaletteLooking4Hope 713, Okmulgee (5/1/2009 10:52:04 AM)
Cameras are very much needed! My sis-in-law's mom was fired and her license was taken away for the simple fact that she was trying to help the patient and the patient was uncooperative. And I myself had worked in a retirement home. I worked in the kitchen for I would come in expecting some of my residents and come to find out that they had an accident in the middle of the night and was transported to figure out the means. I really support this for many issues.
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CPT Ron, Lawton (5/1/2009 11:16:36 AM)
If nursing homes do not abuse patients then the cameras cannot be used to sue the nursing home. The purpose of the cameras is to prevent abuse, and if abuse occurs to document it, so abuse can be stopped.

Cameras also protect the caregiver from unjustified complaints or charges.

If child care facilities can have "nanny cameras" then so can nursing homes.
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Bullhead, Nicut (5/1/2009 7:34:55 PM)
{Trish40, tulsa (4/30/2009 7:54:19 PM)
I think one of the biggest problems in nursing homes is the inadequate staffing and the cna pay. I think if cna's could earn a decent living more people who actually care about the residents would be working with them, I do not condone any kind of resident abuse. The residents deserve dignity and respect and cna's deserve more pay and more help.}

"you're right. You get what you pay for and when you don't pay well, you get abusers and thieves working for you. These homes make money. Lots of money and the residents deserve better than they are getting."
 

 
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